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[R2s Muse]

Blackrising wrote....

And then the PC has to tell Cassandra at some point that s/he's not really a hero (http://www.dramabutton.com/) and that s/he really didn't intend this to happen and Cass can yell "BULL****". Because if she doesn't, I'm going to be really disappointed.

OMG this made me LOL. Second this! 

[Provi-dance]

Mark Darrah wrote...

We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

 

That's cool and all, but some important elements cannot be shown in gameplay footage. For instance, there's been a lot of talk about how level scaling negatively affects a role playing game, but this topic has rarely, if ever, been addressed by Bioware in their "showcases". You obviously can't showcase several significant "behind the curtain" aspects of the game in a gameplay video.
Therefore, we have to hear it from you and it's as simple as saying "yes" or "no" to level scaling, because the viewer will have no clue about the answer by simply looking at gameplay clips.

[Spicen]

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

Oh no probs Mr. Darrah we will be patient. I for one can wait for a good game.

[Blackrising]

Provi-dance wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

 

That's cool and all, but some important elements cannot be shown in gameplay footage. For instance, there's been a lot of talk about how level scaling negatively affects a role playing game, but this topic has rarely, if ever, been addressed by Bioware in their "showcases". You obviously can't showcase several significant "behind the curtain" aspects of the game in a gameplay video.
Therefore, we have to hear it from you and it's as simple as saying "yes" or "no" to level scaling, because the viewer will have no clue about the answer by simply looking at gameplay clips.

He said they wanted the gameplay to back up their words. So I doubt they'll give us nothing but clips. In any case, all we can do now is wait and see.

[Jerrybnsn]

Blackrising wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

 

He said they wanted the gameplay to back up their words. So I doubt they'll give us nothing but clips. In any case, all we can do now is wait and see.

Makes me wonder what kind of words they'll be using?

[LinksOcarina]

Provi-dance wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

 

That's cool and all, but some important elements cannot be shown in gameplay footage. For instance, there's been a lot of talk about how level scaling negatively affects a role playing game, but this topic has rarely, if ever, been addressed by Bioware in their "showcases". You obviously can't showcase several significant "behind the curtain" aspects of the game in a gameplay video.
Therefore, we have to hear it from you and it's as simple as saying "yes" or "no" to level scaling, because the viewer will have no clue about the answer by simply looking at gameplay clips.

Level scaling is an issue now? 

Not that i'm belittleing it, but table-tops have always done level scaling to a degree anyway. Why is this now considered negative?

[Chala]

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

[Provi-dance]

Blackrising wrote...

He said they wanted the gameplay to back up their words. So I doubt they'll give us nothing but clips. In any case, all we can do now is wait and see.

I'm amused. So let's imagine he says something along the lines of this: "There won't/will be level scaling. Let me back it up with this gameplay video clip... " *PC and party shown fighting with monsters* .... Viewer: "Yeees...?"



@LinksOcarina

Table-top (groups) have not "always been using level scaling". Some perhaps have, but many others have certainly never used it.

As to why it is considered negative, you can read some reasons here:
http://wasteland.inx...7a9f631c4d735bf

Now, if you've also read the Wasteland 2 (an open world game) design document you could guess if they'll be using level scaling.

[Blackrising]

R2s Muse wrote...

Blackrising wrote....

And then the PC has to tell Cassandra at some point that s/he's not really a hero (http://www.dramabutton.com/) and that s/he really didn't intend this to happen and Cass can yell "BULL****". Because if she doesn't, I'm going to be really disappointed.

OMG this made me LOL. Second this! 

It will be glorious.



(I'm so sorry.)

[LinksOcarina]

Provi-dance wrote...

@LinksOcarina

Table-top (groups) have not "always been using level scaling". Some perhaps have, but many others have certainly never used it.

As to why it is considered negative, you can read some reasons here:
http://wasteland.inx...7a9f631c4d735bf

Now, if you've also read the Wasteland 2 (an open world game) design document you could guess if they'll be using level scaling.

Uh...the way encounters and equipment is set up in most table-top games is artificial level scaling to remain balanced. It is up to the DM to throw in a level 10 Beholder against level 2 party members,  but that is the DM's choice. Most adventure modules have it scaled correctly to a specific leveled campaign, and often have equipment that matches that scaled level. 

Or i should clarify, most modern RPG tabletops do that. Older games from the 1980's and some early 90's don't do that, but those game punish the player more than being a game, so there you go. 


And honestly, I can care less if something is level scaled or not becuase it rarely deters the experience. Being able to wipe the floor with enemies as you play a game that, more or less, linear like Dragon Age, is not exactly good game design. Light RPGs in the past did it when they had open world maps, but they also region-scaled things to cut you off, and since there is no open-world map for a game like Dragon Age (as far as we know) then it would be unlikely to see scaling in that regard as well. 

The only time it was broken for me was in Oblivion, where it was just ridiculous to see bandits in Elven armor fighting you all the time, and scaling creatures like scamps and dremora and the like to your level was pointless. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 21 août 2012 - 04:48 .

[Emzamination]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

I can't understand what part of new order is not registering in some people's minds

[The Elder King]

I don't know if someone posted this news already, but on a Italian site there was a news about a big announcement from EA this week. It could be about DA3, though I doubt it.
Anyway, about the "leaked" info, I'm fine with the PC as a member of the Inquisition, if it's not a pro-Chantry (which from the leaked info seems to be already collapsed) and anti-mage organization.
An organization composed by both mages and templars, with equal power and the goal of fighting blood mages and abominations, is something I suggested during DA2 development in a thread about mages and templars during DA2 development, and it's something I really want, and could make me more interested in the next game.
The info about the story isn't that interesting, but to be fair DAO's story didn't shine for originality either, and I loved DAO.

[The Elder King]

Emzamination wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

I can't understand what part of new order is not registering in some people's minds

The fact is that the Inquisition was an organization in the past, that hunted blood mages, abominations, cultists and heretics . After they firmed a pact with the Chantry it was split between the Templar Order and the Seekers of Truth. The organization wasn't exactly mage-friendly (though we don't know much in the methods they used in their hunting).
Since the organization should be a new one, and (hopefully) with mages and non-mages on equal terms, I don't care about the name of the organization.

[Chala]

hhh89 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

I can't understand what part of new order is not registering in some people's minds

The fact is that the Inquisition was an organization in the past, that hunted blood mages, abominations, cultists and heretics . After they firmed a pact with the Chantry it was split between the Templar Order and the Seekers of Truth. The organization wasn't exactly mage-friendly (though we don't know much in the methods they used in their hunting).
Since the organization should be a new one, and (hopefully) with mages and non-mages on equal terms, I don't care about the name of the organization.

Yep, as I said before, this time the order will have to solve other conflicts besides blood-mages, so you can be sure that there will be mages around.

[Blackrising]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

This is pretty much confirmation that the information we have in correct. Bioware has had no problems debunking rumors in the past and often call leaks false despite being legitmate. So the fact that they won't even comment on the credibility of this leak to me proves its authenticity.

The bit about "allowing them to surprise and delight us" does seem like saying "stop spreading this so there will still be people left who haven't seen what we're going to show them".
But until that day we see anything official, I'm hesitant to proclaim it true.

[ianvillan]

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

But cant you answer questions some simple questions about your plans for the game like if you plan on having a isomertic view or not, we dont need a screen shot of it just a yes or no about isometric view.

[Provi-dance]

LinksOcarina wrote...


Uh...the way encounters and equipment is set up in most table-top games is artificial level scaling to remain balanced.  Most adventure modules have it scaled correctly to a specific leveled campaign, and often have equipment that matches that scaled level. 

No, a good DM will plan and design combat encounters beforehand.

The second sentece has nothing to do with level scaling. Level scaling is done on the fly, it's a case of aritificially and dynamically altering the monster's level to match that of the player's. When a campaign is planned with a specific player level in mind; that's not per se level scaling.

Or i should clarify, most modern RPG tabletops do that. Older games from the 1980's and some early 90's don't do that, but those game punish the player more than being a game, so there you go. 

Table-top rpgs are led by a human DM, so it has nothing to do with how modern the RPG tabletop is.

 Being able to wipe the floor with [some]* enemies as you play a game that

And vice versa, is part of a believable world.

*added by me

[Emzamination]

hhh89 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

I can't understand what part of new order is not registering in some people's minds

The fact is that the Inquisition was an organization in the past, that hunted blood mages, abominations, cultists and heretics . After they firmed a pact with the Chantry it was split between the Templar Order and the Seekers of Truth. The organization wasn't exactly mage-friendly (though we don't know much in the methods they used in their hunting).
Since the organization should be a new one, and (hopefully) with mages and non-mages on equal terms, I don't care about the name of the organization.

Exactly, they just seem to share the same name, as the sypnosis says a new order will rise from the ashes.Why people think bioware would make a mage pro templar is beyond me, it's just not their m.o to force a choice like that down our throats

Modifié par Emzamination, 21 août 2012 - 05:04 .

[Chala]

Emzamination wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

I can't understand what part of new order is not registering in some people's minds

Not new if it already happened in the past, also, I said it because Dragon Age's inquisition =/= real life's inquisition.
Some people don't know that this order is old and they could think that we'll burn organics in Maker's name

[Agelico]

Now that's the one I definitely want to meet in DA3. I hope Alistair won't kill her.

Modifié par Agelico, 21 août 2012 - 05:09 .

[Emzamination]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

I can't understand what part of new order is not registering in some people's minds

Not new if it already happened in the past, also, I said it because Dragon Age's inquisition =/= real life's inquisition.

Some people don't know that this order is old and they could think that we'll burn organics in Maker's name

I have no problem doing the maker's work

[Blackrising]

Emzamination wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Mark Darrah wrote...

I know that a lot of information seems to have surfaced recently and a lot of you have questions. We have not announced anything and, as I have said before, we won't be talking about anything until we have gameplay to back up the words.

I know it is difficult to be patient but I ask you to do your best to allow us to surprise and delight you when we DO have something to show you.

In the meantime, keep giving us your feedback at expos, fan conventions, and online. We are listening.

If you are going to keep the name of Inquisitor/Inquisition you should remember the rest about who they are and what they do.
Otherwise people will start to think on religious zealots.

I can't understand what part of new order is not registering in some people's minds

Not new if it already happened in the past, also, I said it because Dragon Age's inquisition =/= real life's inquisition.

Some people don't know that this order is old and they could think that we'll burn organics in Maker's name

I have no problem doing the maker's work

Well, I have a list of people here that could do with some nice, even burning. I like 'em crispy.

[WardenKing]

Agelico wrote...



Now that's the one I definitely want to meet in DA3. I hope Alistair won't kill her.

Oh wow!! that is awesome!! Did you make that? haha I love it!