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[Arch1eviathan]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Huh
kinda disappointing
that looks like Kirkwall 2.0
I always imagined Tevinter a little... exotic

I thought it was kirkwall when I first looked at it. I'm okay with it as long as the whole game doesn't take place here. lol, Maybe they intended to make them look similar to bring back some sense of nestolgia.

[R2s Muse]

May I ask where this symbol came from? I saw it on the wiki, but couldn't read the polish? source page.

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

I dunno, for me, this is the Inquisition symbol:


An hybrid between Templars and Seekers.

[jaikss]

I quite like the way it looks myself.Looks like the type of city that could actually repel several exalted marches aswell as a Qunari invasion.Assuming it is Minrathous of course,which it may not be,but I'm inclined to believe it is due to the design.I imagine one of the larger buildings on the back would be the circle ,and the other one maybe the imperial chantry?The gigantic central building being the magisters' palace,which would certainly ding home the "magisters and co." part of Minrathous social latter.

Of course,I've wanted to see Minrathous since DAO,so this could all just be wishful thinking .

Modifié par jaikss, 22 août 2012 - 02:41 .

[King Cousland]

It looks far too small and bland to be Minrathous. I know that Tevinter's in decline and Minrathous is a crumbling city, but I'd expect to see some of the old world glory and excess the Imperium's famed for.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

To be honest I'd totally prefer Tevinter as a setting for an entire game than Orlais. But only if Tevinter really is interesting. I always imagined it a bit (only a little bit) oriental, with palm trees and stuff.

[Reznore57]

Well I don't know why , but I had a totaly different version of Tevinter in my head.
Something that wasn't based on anything ....so obviously i was very wrong.
For me Tevinter was a really dark place , with huge impressive dark tower ...small street with fogs , with poor people and slaves , gagoyles , scary statues...
Building like the cathedrals from Kremlin in russia except with a more gothic feeling to it...

[Dagr88]

Huh... so nit picky about a single picture. Could mean several things:
- People on this forum still judge Bioware by AAA+ standards (which is a good thing), and expect that if in DA3 we should ever get an opportunity to visit this city we should be able to navigate thru it by using this picture.

...

Modifié par Dagr88, 22 août 2012 - 03:27 .

[jaikss]

King Cousland wrote...

It looks far too small and bland to be Minrathous. I know that Tevinter's in decline and Minrathous is a crumbling city, but I'd expect to see some of the old world glory and excess the Imperium's famed for.

Didn't Fenris say something to that effect in DA2?Been too long since I've played DA2 to remember the exact wording,but the gist of it was,I think,that Magisters hoard the riches inside their palaces,while the city around them crumbles.So I imagine anything resembling glory or excess would be found inside the palace,which would,sort of,explain the "blandness" (although for a city that's been at war with the Qunari since they basically landed,it doesn't look that bad imo.).

[rapscallioness]

Reznore57 wrote...

Well I don't know why , but I had a totaly different version of Tevinter in my head.
Something that wasn't based on anything ....so obviously i was very wrong.
For me Tevinter was a really dark place , with huge impressive dark tower ...small street with fogs , with poor people and slaves , gagoyles , scary statues...
Building like the cathedrals from Kremlin in russia except with a more gothic feeling to it...

This. So much.

That's what I want to see in Tevinter. A different color scheme. Something besides...sandy tones #5.

But, this is just from the comic. Different artist. Different vision. I hope.

I'm hoping that the hubs will be more atmospheric; thematic and visually entertaining.

[Wulfram]

What I really really wouldn't want is for Tevinter to have obviously evil looking architecture.

[Chala]

R2s Muse wrote...

May I ask where this symbol came from? I saw it on the wiki, but couldn't read the polish? source page.

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

I dunno, for me, this is the Inquisition symbol:


An hybrid between Templars and Seekers.

I took it from that page, I read somewhere that this symbol was on DAII's files.
That's all the info I know about this image.

[TamiBx]

Absafraginlootly wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Huh
kinda disappointing
that looks like Kirkwall 2.0
I always imagined Tevinter a little... exotic

But kirkwall was built by Tevinters, some simularity is to be expected, though I would think there would also be differences from city to city.

This. Of course it looks like Kirkwall. And I always expected Kirkwall to look like Tevinter, so not disappointed there 

[zyntifox]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

May I ask where this symbol came from? I saw it on the wiki, but couldn't read the polish? source page.

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

I dunno, for me, this is the Inquisition symbol:


An hybrid between Templars and Seekers.

I took it from that page, I read somewhere that this symbol was on DAII's files.
That's all the info I know about this image.

Anyone besides me getting a NWN wibe from that picture?

[Beck 85]

Now that you mention it yeah.

[syllogi]

TamiBx wrote...

Absafraginlootly wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Huh
kinda disappointing
that looks like Kirkwall 2.0
I always imagined Tevinter a little... exotic

But kirkwall was built by Tevinters, some simularity is to be expected, though I would think there would also be differences from city to city.

This. Of course it looks like Kirkwall. And I always expected Kirkwall to look like Tevinter, so not disappointed there 

Also, this is the comic book interpretation of Tevinter.  Just look at the recent Mass Effect comic books interpretation of turians, and think that this could be worse, if it's in fact inaccurate.

[JerZey CJ]

Since apparently our choices will matter(we'll see about that...) in DA3, do you think that we're going to have a ME-like option to select our choice before we start, if we don't have a saved game? Because I don't really have it in me to go through DA:O again(35-50 hours in and haven't even done any of the main quests) and I'm sure as hell not playing through DA2 again(I only played through it fully once). Do you think that we'd get choices like "Who did the Grey Warder side with? [Dalish] or [Werewolves]"? Because I'm bored, list of choices I hope we'd be able to decide:

- Who did the Warden side with? [Templars] [Circle of Magi]
- Who did the Warden side with? [Dalish] [Werewolves]
- Who did the Warden put on the throne in Orzammar? [Harrowmont] [Bhelen]
- What did the Warden do about the Anvil of the Void? [Destroyed it] {Preserved it]
- What did the Warden due with the Urn of Sacred Ashes? [Corrupted it] [Left it alone]
- "Was the Dark Ritual performed? [Yes] [No]" --> "With who? [Alistair] [The Warden] [Loghain]"
- Who delivered the final blow to the Arch Demon? [The Warden] [Alistair] [Loghain]
- Who became the ruler of Ferelden? [Alistair] [Alistair and Anora] [Anora] [Anora w/ the Warden]
- Who did Hawke side with? [Templars] [Mages]
-

[R2s Muse]

Totally NWN-ish

[zyntifox]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Since apparently our choices will matter(we'll see about that...) in DA3, do you think that we're going to have a ME-like option to select our choice before we start, if we don't have a saved game? Because I don't really have it in me to go through DA:O again(35-50 hours in and haven't even done any of the main quests) and I'm sure as hell not playing through DA2 again(I only played through it fully once). Do you think that we'd get choices like "Who did the Grey Warder side with? [Dalish] or [Werewolves]"? Because I'm bored, list of choices I hope we'd be able to decide:

- Who did the Warden side with? [Templars] [Circle of Magi]
- Who did the Warden side with? [Dalish] [Werewolves]
- Who did the Warden put on the throne in Orzammar? [Harrowmont] [Bhelen]
- What did the Warden do about the Anvil of the Void? [Destroyed it] {Preserved it]
- What did the Warden due with the Urn of Sacred Ashes? [Corrupted it] [Left it alone]
- "Was the Dark Ritual performed? [Yes] [No]" --> "With who? [Alistair] [The Warden] [Loghain]"
- Who delivered the final blow to the Arch Demon? [The Warden] [Alistair] [Loghain]
- Who became the ruler of Ferelden? [Alistair] [Alistair and Anora] [Anora] [Anora w/ the Warden]
- Who did Hawke side with? [Templars] [Mages]
-

No, i don't think so im afraid. But you will have plenty of time to play those games before DA3 comes out so you don't need to rush through them.

[ianvillan]

jaikss wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

It looks far too small and bland to be Minrathous. I know that Tevinter's in decline and Minrathous is a crumbling city, but I'd expect to see some of the old world glory and excess the Imperium's famed for.

Didn't Fenris say something to that effect in DA2?Been too long since I've played DA2 to remember the exact wording,but the gist of it was,I think,that Magisters hoard the riches inside their palaces,while the city around them crumbles.So I imagine anything resembling glory or excess would be found inside the palace,which would,sort of,explain the "blandness" (although for a city that's been at war with the Qunari since they basically landed,it doesn't look that bad imo.).

I wouldn't exactly trust Fenris opinion on anything to do with Tevinter and expect it to be acurate.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

ianvillan wrote...

jaikss wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

It looks far too small and bland to be Minrathous. I know that Tevinter's in decline and Minrathous is a crumbling city, but I'd expect to see some of the old world glory and excess the Imperium's famed for.

Didn't Fenris say something to that effect in DA2?Been too long since I've played DA2 to remember the exact wording,but the gist of it was,I think,that Magisters hoard the riches inside their palaces,while the city around them crumbles.So I imagine anything resembling glory or excess would be found inside the palace,which would,sort of,explain the "blandness" (although for a city that's been at war with the Qunari since they basically landed,it doesn't look that bad imo.).

I wouldn't exactly trust Fenris opinion on anything to do with Tevinter and expect it to be acurate.

I've heard they're eating elves there
with a filling of non-mages

[Dagr88]

Cstaf wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Since apparently our choices will matter(we'll see about that...) in DA3, do you think that we're going to have a ME-like option to select our choice before we start, if we don't have a saved game? Because I don't really have it in me to go through DA:O again(35-50 hours in and haven't even done any of the main quests) and I'm sure as hell not playing through DA2 again(I only played through it fully once). Do you think that we'd get choices like "Who did the Grey Warder side with? [Dalish] or [Werewolves]"? Because I'm bored, list of choices I hope we'd be able to decide:

- Who did the Warden side with? [Templars] [Circle of Magi]
- Who did the Warden side with? [Dalish] [Werewolves]
- Who did the Warden put on the throne in Orzammar? [Harrowmont] [Bhelen]
- What did the Warden do about the Anvil of the Void? [Destroyed it] {Preserved it]
- What did the Warden due with the Urn of Sacred Ashes? [Corrupted it] [Left it alone]
- "Was the Dark Ritual performed? [Yes] [No]" --> "With who? [Alistair] [The Warden] [Loghain]"
- Who delivered the final blow to the Arch Demon? [The Warden] [Alistair] [Loghain]
- Who became the ruler of Ferelden? [Alistair] [Alistair and Anora] [Anora] [Anora w/ the Warden]
- Who did Hawke side with? [Templars] [Mages]
-

No, i don't think so im afraid. But you will have plenty of time to play those games before DA3 comes out so you don't need to rush through them.

Maybe they will do the same thing they with ME3. If you don't import you will have the option to choose some aspects from the list. Or like in DA2: Matyr Elv/Hero Human/Bad Dwarf + Who did Hawke side with?

Maybe you'll be asked about companions (dead/alive) {no spoiler section}

[bzombo]

Please bring back dual wield warriors, have better menus and icons than DA2, no spawning enemies (except when it makes sense, which is rare), better and more area maps, remove the over the top combat animations while still maintaining the quicker pace of combat, and allow NPC customization. There, that's my main feedback.

That aside, DA3 is the world's worst kept secret. Can't there at least be an official announcement that DA3 is in development?

[Das Tentakel]

Savber100 wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Tevinter:

That is rather disappointingly small for something that suppose to be the capital of an empire that has been compared to the Roman Empire (something from one of the interviews I believe). 

It looks okay-ish. The big building is pseudo-Byzantine, as expected. The fortifications seem to be (loosely) based on the 15th century Ottoman fortress of Rumeli Hisar. It’s not like Kirkwall’s style at all, though it does share some of the pale, featureless blandness. But that may be more because comics like these are more or less mass-produced, you can’t expect the quality of one of the better European (or American) artists. Whether this is going to be the Tevinter style in-game is up to BioWare, but they might just as well go in another direction.

The whole ensemble doesn't exactly dazzle, I admit, but that's mainly because of moderately competent, joyless execution. A well-executed (historical or pseudo-) Byzantine style can still be pretty impressive, so not all is lost. Not that this a given, of course…



(reconstruction drawing, 6th century Constantinople)



(Fantasy city with Byzantine and other influences)

The biggest thing that is ‘off’ is the scale of the buildings vis a vis the little human figures. Even the market stands seem to be gigantic. The gates are way too large too, and the settlement’s size is ‘off’. It’s obviously a harbor and a market town, but the ‘residential’ part seems way too small given the size of the harbor and the market. It’s almost as if the artist took lessons in fantasy city design from WoW’s scaled-down port towns like Port Theramore and Menethil Harbour, albeit it mixed with a pseudo-Byzantine style.
 

[Dagr88]

bzombo wrote...

That aside, DA3 is the world's worst kept secret. Can't there at least be an official announcement that DA3 is in development?

Those kind of things are announced at expos (so there would be something to show). Usually there are 1-2 gameplay trailers and several "EPIC" cinematic one + remixes. And since nowadays the number of different expos is high, they need to spread thin the amount of information they are giving to us as much as possible.

The thing that fans want are not "The announcement" but scraps of information about design/story/gameplay to discuss/speculate about while waiting for the release.

(grumble noises)... only 2 days ago learned about "possible" plot and comrades and yet I'm hungry again.

Modifié par Dagr88, 22 août 2012 - 08:11 .