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[TamiBx]

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

[The Elder King]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Does it even matter who Hawke sides with? The result is the same either way and Hawke hardly played a role at all in the situation.

Not much really, but there are a lot of people who would never choose one of the two side, and I think that they'll be pissed if in DA3 the choice will be canon with Hawke that helped the side they hate.

[King Cousland]

TamiBx wrote...

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

Who's the king of Orzammar could matter too I think since I can see us going to Kal-Sharok in DA III. 

[The Elder King]

BrotherWarth wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Does it even matter who Hawke sides with? The result is the same either way and Hawke hardly played a role at all in the situation.

Not much really, but there are a lot of people who would never choose one of the two side, and I think that they'll be pissed if in DA3 the choice will be canon with Hawke that helped the side they hate.

But since the same thing happens no matter what, why would anyone in Thedas care that someone happened to be standing there when the **** went down?

Nothing, in truth. Only some dialogues in which a mage or templar expresses his opinion on Hawke. Considering that no matter what you choose Cassandra thinks that Hawke could have a great role in recomposing the fracture between mages and templars, the choice is completely useless. Even more if the new Inquisition will be formed by mages and non-mages.
As I said, is more about players being pissed for the last choice in Act 3 becoming canon, because they firmly support one faction, and/or firmly hate the other.

[LinksOcarina]

TamiBx wrote...

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

Eh...I would argue a few more important things.

For one, is Connor himself, or controlled by a demon, or dead? And who is running Orzammar will also be major decisions. Plus, we got the Architect and if hes still alive, and Corpheyus to contend with...

[Emzamination]

LinksOcarina wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

Eh...I would argue a few more important things.

For one, is Connor himself, or controlled by a demon, or dead? And who is running Orzammar will also be major decisions. Plus, we got the Architect and if hes still alive, and Corpheyus to contend with...

The Architect and Corpheyus are Dlc

[LinksOcarina]

Emzamination wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

Eh...I would argue a few more important things.

For one, is Connor himself, or controlled by a demon, or dead? And who is running Orzammar will also be major decisions. Plus, we got the Architect and if hes still alive, and Corpheyus to contend with...

The Architect and Corpheyus are Dlc

So?

They are still a part of the story for a lot of people, are part of the lore of Dragon Age, and may have a part to play in events. And honestly, the Architect is more of an expansion vs a DLC, but thats splitting hairs 

[Emzamination]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

Eh...I would argue a few more important things.

For one, is Connor himself, or controlled by a demon, or dead? And who is running Orzammar will also be major decisions. Plus, we got the Architect and if hes still alive, and Corpheyus to contend with...

The Architect and Corpheyus are Dlc

So?

They are still a part of the story for a lot of people, are part of the lore of Dragon Age, and may have a part to play in events. And honestly, the Architect is more of an expansion vs a DLC, but thats splitting hairs 

So if you didn't P2p the dlc, you don't get to make decisions on the events, it doesn't matter how interesting that aspect of the story is.In Me3 unless you completed the dlc in previous titles you weren't able to unlock specific events/rewards and dragon age is no different.

Modifié par Emzamination, 22 août 2012 - 11:43 .

[TamiBx]

LinksOcarina wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

Eh...I would argue a few more important things.

For one, is Connor himself, or controlled by a demon, or dead? And who is running Orzammar will also be major decisions. Plus, we got the Architect and if hes still alive, and Corpheyus to contend with...

See, I don't think Connor is important enough to be a decision you can make before starting DA3 without an import from DAO and/or DA2 (that's what the list is: things I think people should be able to pick right before starting DA3 if they have not played any other DA game)


As of now, I don't think the dwarves are going to be important. If DA3 will be about Templars vs Mages, dwarves are probably the least important people, since they can't use magic (they're neutral). Especially if we go to Tevinter/Orlais. 
If DA3 will have darkspawns and their origins, then yes, dwarves will be important...but no info about that 


Aaaand I forgot about Awakening. Yes, the Architect alive/dead is important too (and Corypheus).

[LinksOcarina]

Emzamination wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

   Honestly, the only things I think that matters enough that could be picked in the beginning of a game without an import are:

 - Who is ruling Ferelden 
 - Dark Ritual done/not done
 - Who Hawke sided with (templar/mage)
 - Anders dead or alive 

The rest? Small details that will probably not be important. I think those who have played the whole series should be "rewarded" for playing it, so I don't think it's fair to give new players the opportunity to pick every little single detail about the game. But that's just me 

Eh...I would argue a few more important things.

For one, is Connor himself, or controlled by a demon, or dead? And who is running Orzammar will also be major decisions. Plus, we got the Architect and if hes still alive, and Corpheyus to contend with...

The Architect and Corpheyus are Dlc

So?

They are still a part of the story for a lot of people, are part of the lore of Dragon Age, and may have a part to play in events. And honestly, the Architect is more of an expansion vs a DLC, but thats splitting hairs 

So if you didn't P2p the dlc, you don't get to make decisions on the events, it doesn't matter how interesting that aspect of the story is.In Me3 unless you completed the dlc in previous titles you weren't able to unlock specific events/rewards and dragon age is no different.

That is Mass Effect 3, not Dragon Age. Got to remember Dragon Age is not just a trilogy, so we may see some of these decisions three, four games out from now. 

Think of it this way, unlocking those event or making decisions on that part of the story becomes the icing on the cake, as it gives you context and backstory to a plot thread. If you didn't play them, it doesn't mean the Architect, or Corpheyus, don't exist. This is kind of going into a what if kind of scenario, but if neither the Warden or Hawke were involved in those events, the Architect and Corpheyus would still be involved in their stories: Corpheyus would be freed by the Wardens, and the Architect might be killed, or might win his civil war with the Brood Mother. It becomes fertile ground for a story arc because the seeds are planted for it. 

so yes, the mark of it being there helps a LOT, but it may be something like the Dark Ritual, where even if it didn't happen, it might be referenced still. I am just thinking in my head that they are too important to not be part of the storyline, despite being a DLC story-quest. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 22 août 2012 - 11:57 .

[LinksOcarina]

TamiBx wrote...

See, I don't think Connor is important enough to be a decision you can make before starting DA3 without an import from DAO and/or DA2 (that's what the list is: things I think people should be able to pick right before starting DA3 if they have not played any other DA game)

As of now, I don't think the dwarves are going to be important. If DA3 will be about Templars vs Mages, dwarves are probably the least important people, since they can't use magic (they're neutral). Especially if we go to Tevinter/Orlais. 
If DA3 will have darkspawns and their origins, then yes, dwarves will be important...but no info about that 


Aaaand I forgot about Awakening. Yes, the Architect alive/dead is important too (and Corypheus).

Well, Connor was on that list, as was who was king of Orzammar and what happened with the Dalish. The Dalish I don't think will be an issue because they are all over the place, although werewolves would be interesting to see...but I digress. As for Connor, he would be 20 in the events of Dragon Age III if we are following a timeline right after Cassandra's interrogation, so he would be of age, a mage in the circle, and Eamon's son who may be taking over Redcliffe. Having him alive and not under the spell of a demon might come into play for me personally.

As for Orzammar, if Behlen is king, perhaps the surface will get support despite the neutral stance, and you may even see a side-misison with the surviving Harrowmont's in Rivian. If Harrowmont is king then I would bet they are closed down. 

I know this all filling in the gaps on things, but it does make for interesting scenarios that, if BioWare was really keen on making this a storyline, they would close off events, quests, and even characters to players who made those said choices. But that may take too much time and money in the long run. We shall see though. 

[Emzamination]

LinksOcarina wrote...

That is Mass Effect 3, not Dragon Age.

Think of it this way, unlocking those event or making decisions on that part of the story becomes the icing on the cake, as it gives you context and backstory to a plot thread. If you didn't play them, it doesn't mean the Architect, or Corpheyus, don't exist. This is kind of going into a what if kind of scenario, but if neither the Warden or Hawke were involved in those events, the Architect and Corpheyus would still be involved in their stories: Corpheyus would be freed by the Wardens, and the Architect might be killed, or might win his civil war with the Brood Mother. It becomes fertile ground for a story arc because the seeds are planted for it. 

so yes, the mark of it being there helps a LOT, but it may be something like the Dark Ritual, where even if it didn't happen, it might be referenced still. I am just thinking in my head that they are too important to not be part of the storyline, despite being a DLC story-quest. 

That's funny, I wasn't aware there was a difference...If you didn't complete wardens keep, does sophia dryden or the mage's gift still appear in Da2? no? didn't think so.The architect is dead by default and until we know exactly how Corpheyus ties into everything, he's still Dlc and subject to a default setting like everything else and that's if he's important enough to be referenced.

Modifié par Emzamination, 23 août 2012 - 12:04 .

[LinksOcarina]

Emzamination wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

That is Mass Effect 3, not Dragon Age.

Think of it this way, unlocking those event or making decisions on that part of the story becomes the icing on the cake, as it gives you context and backstory to a plot thread. If you didn't play them, it doesn't mean the Architect, or Corpheyus, don't exist. This is kind of going into a what if kind of scenario, but if neither the Warden or Hawke were involved in those events, the Architect and Corpheyus would still be involved in their stories: Corpheyus would be freed by the Wardens, and the Architect might be killed, or might win his civil war with the Brood Mother. It becomes fertile ground for a story arc because the seeds are planted for it. 

so yes, the mark of it being there helps a LOT, but it may be something like the Dark Ritual, where even if it didn't happen, it might be referenced still. I am just thinking in my head that they are too important to not be part of the storyline, despite being a DLC story-quest. 

That's funny, I wasn't aware there was a difference...If you didn't complete wardens keep, does sophia dryden or the mage's gift still appear in Da2? no? didn't think so.The architect is dead by default and until we know exactly how Corpheyus ties into everything, he's still Dlc and subject to a default setting like everything else and that's if he's important enough to be referenced.

If it's default, it's default. Then hes dead, you have your answer for that portion of the game.

But that doesn't mean it won't be a major part of the story. That is like saying we can throw out every piece of DLC for each game because its DLC, it doesn't work that way, and if they carry that flag over from the expansion to game 3, then there is a reason for it. 

[Emzamination]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

That is Mass Effect 3, not Dragon Age.

Think of it this way, unlocking those event or making decisions on that part of the story becomes the icing on the cake, as it gives you context and backstory to a plot thread. If you didn't play them, it doesn't mean the Architect, or Corpheyus, don't exist. This is kind of going into a what if kind of scenario, but if neither the Warden or Hawke were involved in those events, the Architect and Corpheyus would still be involved in their stories: Corpheyus would be freed by the Wardens, and the Architect might be killed, or might win his civil war with the Brood Mother. It becomes fertile ground for a story arc because the seeds are planted for it. 

so yes, the mark of it being there helps a LOT, but it may be something like the Dark Ritual, where even if it didn't happen, it might be referenced still. I am just thinking in my head that they are too important to not be part of the storyline, despite being a DLC story-quest. 

That's funny, I wasn't aware there was a difference...If you didn't complete wardens keep, does sophia dryden or the mage's gift still appear in Da2? no? didn't think so.The architect is dead by default and until we know exactly how Corpheyus ties into everything, he's still Dlc and subject to a default setting like everything else and that's if he's important enough to be referenced.

If it's default, it's default. Then hes dead, you have your answer for that portion of the game.

But that doesn't mean it won't be a major part of the story. That is like saying we can throw out every piece of DLC for each game because its DLC, it doesn't work that way, and if they carry that flag over from the expansion to game 3, then there is a reason for it. 

I'm not suggesting any Dlc be thrown out, I'm just saying the outcome is not something people who didn't play the dlc should have a decision in.I believe that's only fair to the people who actually paid to make those decisions.

[BioFan (Official)]

 


here's that developer diary shot off all the characters in it. Funny how THEY ALL LOOK LIKE CHARACTERS IN DA3 

Modifié par Ericander77, 23 août 2012 - 12:24 .

[TMJfin]

Wow, where did you get this shot? Have I missed something? Thanks Ericander77

[King Cousland]

TMJfin wrote...

Wow, where did you get this shot? Have I missed something? Thanks Ericander77

He got it from here, I think. 

[BioFan (Official)]

King Cousland wrote...

TMJfin wrote...

Wow, where did you get this shot? Have I missed something? Thanks Ericander77

He got it from here, I think. 

you both are verry welcome. :innocent:


anyone care to the screenshot of a female Kossith from Those Who Speck? 

[King Cousland]

I don't think we should read much into these (at all) since they're for DA II, but I was intrigued by these dialogue options that were on for a split second:

http://desmond.image...ng&res=landing 

Modifié par King Cousland, 23 août 2012 - 01:08 .

[BioFan (Official)]

King Cousland wrote...

I don't think we should read much into these (at all) since they're for DA II, but I was intrigued by these dialogue options that were on for a split second:

http://desmond.image...ng&res=landing 

idk...  i might at least some. Because


1. "how far is orlais?"
2. That elf looks like Sera's concept art (even has her necklace)
3. there's the warden
4. there's iorn bull 
5. i thought the mage was hawke, but now since he's in the "giving orders" shot, i'm gonna say Darius or whatever hsi name is

Modifié par Ericander77, 23 août 2012 - 01:12 .

[King Cousland]

Ericander77 wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

I don't think we should read much into these (at all) since they're for DA II, but I was intrigued by these dialogue options that were on for a split second:

http://desmond.image...ng&res=landing 

idk...  i might at least some. Because


1. "how far is orlais?"
2. That elf looks like Sera's concept art (even has her necklace)
3. there's the warden
4. there's iorn bull 


but i think the mage is supposed ot be hawke

I suppose I can tentatively agree on that. It certainly seems that some aspects of scrapped DA II concepts have been carried over for the Next Thing. 

[BioFan (Official)]

 I found this funny


 

most of the pics are from the leak

[BioFan (Official)]

King Cousland wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

I don't think we should read much into these (at all) since they're for DA II, but I was intrigued by these dialogue options that were on for a split second:

http://desmond.image...ng&res=landing 

idk...  i might at least some. Because


1. "how far is orlais?"
2. That elf looks like Sera's concept art (even has her necklace)
3. there's the warden
4. there's iorn bull 


but i think the mage is supposed ot be hawke

I suppose I can tentatively agree on that. It certainly seems that some aspects of scrapped DA II concepts have been carried over for the Next Thing. 

Sera looks like an elven Jack (from ME)