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[Fast Jimmy]

Samudo wrote...

How did this turn into a discussion about elves exactly?

Hey, its almost page 70. Everything that's actually applicable to the original topic can be thrown out the window by page fifty, at the least.

[Das Tentakel]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Samudo wrote...

How did this turn into a discussion about elves exactly?

Hey, its almost page 70. Everything that's actually applicable to the original topic can be thrown out the window by page fifty, at the least.

Exactly!

...wait, this is the Mass Effect 3 forum, right?

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Das Tentakel wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Samudo wrote...

How did this turn into a discussion about elves exactly?

Hey, its almost page 70. Everything that's actually applicable to the original topic can be thrown out the window by page fifty, at the least.

Exactly!

...wait, this is the Mass Effect 3 forum, right?

Now that you mention it, let's talk about how bad the ME3 ending was!

[PhillyB]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Das Tentakel wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Samudo wrote...

How did this turn into a discussion about elves exactly?

Hey, its almost page 70. Everything that's actually applicable to the original topic can be thrown out the window by page fifty, at the least.

Exactly!

...wait, this is the Mass Effect 3 forum, right?

Now that you mention it, let's talk about how bad the ME3 ending was!

ME3 had a bad ending?

[Samudo]

Can't you guys just start another thread, otherwise a mod would say this thread has gotten off topic and then locks it down.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

PhillyB wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Das Tentakel wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Samudo wrote...

How did this turn into a discussion about elves exactly?

Hey, its almost page 70. Everything that's actually applicable to the original topic can be thrown out the window by page fifty, at the least.

Exactly!

...wait, this is the Mass Effect 3 forum, right?

Now that you mention it, let's talk about how bad the ME3 ending was!

ME3 had a bad ending?

I see what you did there.

[Blackrising]

thats1evildude wrote...

I thought they were attractive, and the last time I checked, I was human.

Not all of them, mind you, but I didn't find all of the DAO elves that good-looking either. So if there's an unspoken rule that elves have to be OMG SO BEAUTIFUL, they've been breaking that law from the beginning of the series for me.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that I can't think of a single elf in DAO that I found more attractive than Merrill.

Word.
I never got why people complain so much about the DA 2 elves. When I started playing DA:O (after DA 2), the first time I saw an elf I thought "Okay, what is this? Where are the unique features? I want elves, not generic looking small humans with pointy ears".
I like that they have big eyes and those unique noses. Yes, there are many of them that look not exactly attractive, but I personally think that that's not because of the new design. Most of the NPC's looked downright awful thanks to the art style or rendering or whatever you want to call it.


Seriously, if I could change one thing about the general design for DA 3, it would be the mouth/lips of the models. They look horrible. Scary. When someone opens their mouth, you might see some teeth, yes, but not the ones that should be hidden by the lower lip.
I'd also welcome facial expressions that look at least vaguely realistic. Default Hawke looked fine enough, but every single custom character looked like they were dead inside.

[Jerrybnsn]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

I don't think we should read much into these (at all) since they're for DA II, but I was intrigued by these dialogue options that were on for a split second:

http://desmond.image...ng&res=landing 

idk...  i might at least some. Because


1. "how far is orlais?"
2. That elf looks like Sera's concept art (even has her necklace)
3. there's the warden
4. there's iorn bull 
5. i thought the mage was hawke, but now since he's in the "giving orders" shot, i'm gonna say Darius or whatever hsi name is

Anyone getting the feeling that this was what the Exhalted March DLC was supposed to have? 

It got turned into an elf discussion because of this thread.  And then someone said "Look at the elf!  Ewwww!"

[Potato Cat]

Blackrising wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I thought they were attractive, and the last time I checked, I was human.

Not all of them, mind you, but I didn't find all of the DAO elves that good-looking either. So if there's an unspoken rule that elves have to be OMG SO BEAUTIFUL, they've been breaking that law from the beginning of the series for me.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that I can't think of a single elf in DAO that I found more attractive than Merrill.

Word.
I never got why people complain so much about the DA 2 elves. When I started playing DA:O (after DA 2), the first time I saw an elf I thought "Okay, what is this? Where are the unique features? I want elves, not generic looking small humans with pointy ears".
I like that they have big eyes and those unique noses. Yes, there are many of them that look not exactly attractive, but I personally think that that's not because of the new design. Most of the NPC's looked downright awful thanks to the art style or rendering or whatever you want to call it.


Seriously, if I could change one thing about the general design for DA 3, it would be the mouth/lips of the models. They look horrible. Scary. When someone opens their mouth, you might see some teeth, yes, but not the ones that should be hidden by the lower lip.
I'd also welcome facial expressions that look at least vaguely realistic. Default Hawke looked fine enough, but every single custom character looked like they were dead inside.

Really? My FemHawke looked lovely. Slightly anorexic, but the hair hid that. Just the "happy" face looked more like a "high" face.

What I think they should do is give City Elves more human-y noses and let the Dalish keep the Na'vi noses. That way, if we can play as an elf, we can have some freedom and keep the Na'vi lovers and human lovers happy. Plus, it could further illustrate the loss of their heritage for the City Elves.

[thats1evildude]

Blackrising wrote...

Seriously, if I could change one thing about the general design for DA 3, it would be the mouth/lips of the models. They look horrible. Scary. When someone opens their mouth, you might see some teeth, yes, but not the ones that should be hidden by the lower lip.
I'd also welcome facial expressions that look at least vaguely realistic. Default Hawke looked fine enough, but every single custom character looked like they were dead inside.

Yes, I have to agree with you there. I noticed non-default Hawkes tend to be a little dead-eyed and stone-faced. (Default Hawke had that going at times, but you could at least tell when he was smiling.)

Modifié par thats1evildude, 23 août 2012 - 07:47 .

[Jerrybnsn]

syllogi wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

syllogi wrote...

Katriel was described as having curly blonde hair, an orlesian accent, and being very pretty, perhaps more "conventionally" pretty than Rowan.  Fiona had short brown hair, and Maric found her attractive.  That doesn't necessarily mean that, as elves, they have to look like a human with pointy ears.  There can be a middle ground between the worst examples of DA2 elves (I still feel really sorry for Orana) and fantasy art illustrations of fashion models with pointy ears (not that there's anything wrong with that, it just isn't the direction the DA artists want to go in with the elves in this world).

An orleasian accent?  I'll have to read the book again, but I thought Katriel was a city-elf/bard from Fereldan and hence didn't have an Orleasian accent.  Fiona did have an Orleasian accent because she was raised in Orlais.

I also think that it was written according to DA scripture that Maric wasn't particulary attracted to Fiona but that she reminded him of Katriel enough that he was drawn to her.

As Knight of Dane said, she was Orlesian...part of the reason Loghain immediately hated her and distrusted her so much.  As for Fiona, I think her elfy-ness was what initially drew Maric to her, so I assume he at least found her physically attractive.

On page 256 of the Stolen Throne,  Rowan (Maric's future Queen) acted surprised that Katriel wasn't from Ferelden. She admitted to them that she was originally from Orlais before being brought to Ferelden {yet still hadn't told them she was a for-hire Orlesian bard}.  Up to that point, everyone had assumed she was just a servant from the Arl of Aramanthine.  But nothing was ever mentioned of an Orlesian accent, so I assume she could speak Fereldan without an accent. 

I thank you for the correction good sers on confirming that she was an Orlesian.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 23 août 2012 - 08:19 .

[rapscallioness]

Ericander77 wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

I don't think we should read much into these (at all) since they're for DA II, but I was intrigued by these dialogue options that were on for a split second:

http://desmond.image...ng&res=landing 

idk...  i might at least some. Because


1. "how far is orlais?"
2. That elf looks like Sera's concept art (even has her necklace)
3. there's the warden
4. there's iorn bull 


but i think the mage is supposed ot be hawke

I suppose I can tentatively agree on that. It certainly seems that some aspects of scrapped DA II concepts have been carried over for the Next Thing. 

Sera looks like an elven Jack (from ME) 

That's exactly what I was thinking! Which means I love her already, although I wasn't sure from just reading the char. description.  I loved Jack, but I would have hesitated with her, too if I had ever read the char. description. I'm sure.

At any rate, I love that squad pic there. I know it was concept stuff for DA2, but I can't help but believe that some of those concepts are being carried over to The Next Thing. (and there's a kossith companion..what happned w/that?

I love the way they look in that pic. Their stance. The way they carry themselves. The look on their faces. They look suffciently kick butt. Really. That group walks into the town square---you know something's about to pop off.

There's a horse?

[BioFan (Official)]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

What do you think?

what is that lyrium thing?

[Jerrybnsn]

An elven Jack for a companion?? That wouldn't appeal to me. I've already put up with a Jack in ME.

[Emzamination]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Jesus Christ, something else needs to leak soon...

Mmmm I learned my lesson, perhaps another

[Emzamination]

Avejajed wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

A discussion about elves is perfectly acceptable and on-topic, after all, we're discussing what we like and what we don't like- in regards to how the DA elves are presented, and the speculation on the new elves perfectly ties in what this thread is about- DA3 Information & Speculation. Ta Da!

But they've said countless times that they're not changing the art style again. And it's not like most people hating the giant nose bridge and bug eyes is new to them.

So let me get this straight- you hate how they look, but you don't want to rip off Tolkien and look human. So how exactly DO you want them to look?

Elves aren't human, they are a different species altogether and should in no way resemble humans (Imo).