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Avejajed wrote...


Which is fine. I'm only asking him if not the DA2 style, and not the Tolkien style, then what kind of elf would be something he'd be comfortable, say, romancing? Something more like Dobby? ;)

Only playing the devil's advocate here.


I personally prefer the Da2 style over the origin's style, because to me the elves in origins just looked like short humans with pointy ears.I would love to see elves such as viconia devir enter dragon age. =]

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

A discussion about elves is perfectly acceptable and on-topic, after all, we're discussing what we like and what we don't like- in regards to how the DA elves are presented, and the speculation on the new elves perfectly ties in what this thread is about- DA3 Information & Speculation. Ta Da!


But they've said countless times that they're not changing the art style again. And it's not like most people hating the giant nose bridge and bug eyes is new to them.


So let me get this straight- you hate how they look, but you don't want to rip off Tolkien and look human. So how exactly DO you want them to look? :huh:


Why are my options just those 2? Is it so odd to not want the elves to look like goblins or humans?


Am I the only one who doesn't care how the elves look, as long as I know they are an elf? 

Anyway...the lyrium we keep seeing, perhaps a Lyrium Idol? 

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LinksOcarina wrote...


Am I the only one who doesn't care how the elves look, as long as I know they are an elf? 

Anyway...the lyrium we keep seeing, perhaps a Lyrium Idol? 




It's an unwritten rule that elves must have an unearthly beauty and frolic in nature

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Emzamination wrote...

It's an unwritten rule that elves must have an unearthly beauty and frolic in nature


What?

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

It's an unwritten rule that elves must have an unearthly beauty and frolic in nature


What?

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?



Of course they frolic. They wouldn't be elves otherwise.

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They just don't do it in the woods. The trees get jealous.

ElitePinecone wrote...

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?


Officer 1: We have a clean-shaven dwarf expressing a distaste for alcohol on the corner of Fifth and Main!
Officer 2: Let's roll.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 24 août 2012 - 02:36 .


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Well I think we should go searching for real ones and then just base them off this. This is a good place to start.



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ElitePinecone wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

It's an unwritten rule that elves must have an unearthly beauty and frolic in nature


What?

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?


Here is the problem. 

Everyone has a gestalt of what an elf looks like because of 50 years of use as a fantasy-genre stock character. Lithe, androgynous, beautiful looking, and so forth.

Personally,  I never cared because in the end the only real thing that matters is the world says they are elves, and how they are portrayed reflects the culture of that worlds said elves. 

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thats1evildude wrote...

They just don't do it in the woods. The trees get jealous.

ElitePinecone wrote...

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?


Officer 1: We have a clean-shaven dwarf expressing a distaste for alcohol on the corner of Fifth and Main!
Officer 2: Let's roll.


HA! I laughed! +1 Internet point to you, sir.

EDIT: Can we move on from all this elves talk? Bioware has said they won't change the artstyle and that's that. Same thing with the conversation wheel. I like the former and really dislike the latter, but you don't see me lobbying for a conversation list when it's been said what will be actually used and is not open for discussion. They're going to try and improve on both matters, but they're staying. Move on people!

Modifié par Spedfrom, 24 août 2012 - 02:54 .


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I didn't say you had to choose anything. If you were describing your perfect elf what would it look like? That's all I'm asking. lol. I know what you -don't- like, tell me what you -do- like.


Really, all you want is my opinion on how they shoudl look? Let's take a look at your post, shall we?

So let me get this straight- you hate how they look, but you don't want
to rip off Tolkien and look human. So how exactly DO you want them to
look? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


Hmm. Sure seems like you were deriding me for not wanting the DA2 appearance or the Tolkien appearance. Your emphasis on "do" makes it quite clear.
Say that out loud, putting that emphasis on do and tell it doesn't sound the way I interpreted it.

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thats1evildude wrote...

They just don't do it in the woods. The trees get jealous.

ElitePinecone wrote...

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?


Officer 1: We have a clean-shaven dwarf expressing a distaste for alcohol on the corner of Fifth and Main!
Officer 2: Let's roll.


He's using a crossbow. Code red. 

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Spedfrom wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

They just don't do it in the woods. The trees get jealous.

ElitePinecone wrote...

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?


Officer 1: We have a clean-shaven dwarf expressing a distaste for alcohol on the corner of Fifth and Main!
Officer 2: Let's roll.


HA! I laughed! +1 Internet point to you, sir.

EDIT: Can we move on from all this elves talk? Bioware has said they won't change the artstyle and that's that. Same thing with the conversation wheel. I like the former and really dislike the latter, but you don't see me lobbying for a conversation list when it's been said what will be actually used and is not open for discussion. They're going to try and improve on both matters, but they're staying. Move on people!


Agreed. While I approve of both changes (i.e. Elves/Dialogue wheel) I have, like many others, discussed it to death. I know we fans are desperate, at times, to talk/debate something, but at this juncture we're essentially beating the proverbial horse, no? 
:blush:

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Emzamination wrote...

Avejajed wrote...


Which is fine. I'm only asking him if not the DA2 style, and not the Tolkien style, then what kind of elf would be something he'd be comfortable, say, romancing? Something more like Dobby? ;)

Only playing the devil's advocate here.


I personally prefer the Da2 style over the origin's style, because to me the elves in origins just looked like short humans with pointy ears.I would love to see elves such as viconia devir enter dragon age. =]


(*Chuckles*) Indeed. I recall, for Origins, thinking, "Oh, look. Vulcans." :D 
With DA2 they gave them a sense of having evolved from a Forest species, behaps feline or partially avian, yet retaining mammilian qualities. In essence they were just "alien" enough to feel very much a part of a Fantasy world. 

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Ha, I'm aware that the order of my two previous posts appear as a slight contradiction. Sorry.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I didn't say you had to choose anything. If you were describing your perfect elf what would it look like? That's all I'm asking. lol. I know what you -don't- like, tell me what you -do- like.


Really, all you want is my opinion on how they shoudl look? Let's take a look at your post, shall we?

So let me get this straight- you hate how they look, but you don't want
to rip off Tolkien and look human. So how exactly DO you want them to
look? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


Hmm. Sure seems like you were deriding me for not wanting the DA2 appearance or the Tolkien appearance. Your emphasis on "do" makes it quite clear.
Say that out loud, putting that emphasis on do and tell it doesn't sound the way I interpreted it.


Your joking right? How is it possible that you are taking offense from a post that is clearly asking you what it is you want the elves to look like? Which, btw, you still haven't answered. 

The reason that there is an emphasis on the 'do' is that you have been critiquing the elves and their looks, but have failed to supply how it is that you want them to look. It's a simple question. If you have an answer than say it, if you don't then perhaps you should re-evaluate what it is you want the elves to look like before coming on and saying that they look bad. It will help out your arguement significantly if you can provide a general description (or example) of what it is you want to see. This will also, in turn, help the devs because even though they have said they don't plan to change the art style, things always change. Perhaps they'll incorporate different styles in DA4, or add new tweaks for DA3. =]

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

A discussion about elves is perfectly acceptable and on-topic, after all, we're discussing what we like and what we don't like- in regards to how the DA elves are presented, and the speculation on the new elves perfectly ties in what this thread is about- DA3 Information & Speculation. Ta Da!


But they've said countless times that they're not changing the art style again. And it's not like most people hating the giant nose bridge and bug eyes is new to them.



they won't make majpt changes, mabye minor improvements. Like ME2 -> ME3 style 

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gangly369 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I didn't say you had to choose anything. If you were describing your perfect elf what would it look like? That's all I'm asking. lol. I know what you -don't- like, tell me what you -do- like.


Really, all you want is my opinion on how they shoudl look? Let's take a look at your post, shall we?

So let me get this straight- you hate how they look, but you don't want
to rip off Tolkien and look human. So how exactly DO you want them to
look? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


Hmm. Sure seems like you were deriding me for not wanting the DA2 appearance or the Tolkien appearance. Your emphasis on "do" makes it quite clear.
Say that out loud, putting that emphasis on do and tell it doesn't sound the way I interpreted it.


Your joking right? How is it possible that you are taking offense from a post that is clearly asking you what it is you want the elves to look like? Which, btw, you still haven't answered. 

The reason that there is an emphasis on the 'do' is that you have been critiquing the elves and their looks, but have failed to supply how it is that you want them to look. It's a simple question. If you have an answer than say it, if you don't then perhaps you should re-evaluate what it is you want the elves to look like before coming on and saying that they look bad. It will help out your arguement significantly if you can provide a general description (or example) of what it is you want to see. This will also, in turn, help the devs because even though they have said they don't plan to change the art style, things always change. Perhaps they'll incorporate different styles in DA4, or add new tweaks for DA3. =]


Who gives a flying **** what I want the elves to look like? Are you dying to know what I have to say on the matter? I didn't even say they need to change them. Go back and read my posts. Not once did I say "The elves need to be different in DA3." It doesn't particularly bother me how they look in DA2 and most of the suggestions here are just "Take this from another game/fantasy IP and put it in DA3." I don't want that and that's what I was criticizing from the start.

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Ericander77 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

A discussion about elves is perfectly acceptable and on-topic, after all, we're discussing what we like and what we don't like- in regards to how the DA elves are presented, and the speculation on the new elves perfectly ties in what this thread is about- DA3 Information & Speculation. Ta Da!


But they've said countless times that they're not changing the art style again. And it's not like most people hating the giant nose bridge and bug eyes is new to them.



they won't make majpt changes, mabye minor improvements. Like ME2 -> ME3 style 


They didn't change anything in the art style from ME2 to ME3. All they did was sharped the graphics. The style was exactly the same.

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gangly369 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I didn't say you had to choose anything. If you were describing your perfect elf what would it look like? That's all I'm asking. lol. I know what you -don't- like, tell me what you -do- like.


Really, all you want is my opinion on how they shoudl look? Let's take a look at your post, shall we?

So let me get this straight- you hate how they look, but you don't want
to rip off Tolkien and look human. So how exactly DO you want them to
look? Posted Image


Hmm. Sure seems like you were deriding me for not wanting the DA2 appearance or the Tolkien appearance. Your emphasis on "do" makes it quite clear.
Say that out loud, putting that emphasis on do and tell it doesn't sound the way I interpreted it.


Your joking right? How is it possible that you are taking offense from a post that is clearly asking you what it is you want the elves to look like? Which, btw, you still haven't answered. 

The reason that there is an emphasis on the 'do' is that you have been critiquing the elves and their looks, but have failed to supply how it is that you want them to look. It's a simple question. If you have an answer than say it, if you don't then perhaps you should re-evaluate what it is you want the elves to look like before coming on and saying that they look bad. It will help out your arguement significantly if you can provide a general description (or example) of what it is you want to see. This will also, in turn, help the devs because even though they have said they don't plan to change the art style, things always change. Perhaps they'll incorporate different styles in DA4, or add new tweaks for DA3. =]

Booyah. 

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BrotherWarth: Sooo you're cool with them staying how they are?

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Who gives a flying **** what I want the elves to look like? Are you dying to know what I have to say on the matter? I didn't even say they need to change them. Go back and read my posts. Not once did I say "The elves need to be different in DA3." It doesn't particularly bother me how they look in DA2 and most of the suggestions here are just "Take this from another game/fantasy IP and put it in DA3." I don't want that and that's what I was criticizing from the start.

With respect, if you don't know what you're talking about I can't see why we should.  Posted Image

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brushyourteeth wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Who gives a flying **** what I want the elves to look like? Are you dying to know what I have to say on the matter? I didn't even say they need to change them. Go back and read my posts. Not once did I say "The elves need to be different in DA3." It doesn't particularly bother me how they look in DA2 and most of the suggestions here are just "Take this from another game/fantasy IP and put it in DA3." I don't want that and that's what I was criticizing from the start.

With respect, if you don't know what you're talking about I can't see why we should.  Posted Image


Unless you're illiterate you should have no problem understanding me or my position on this.

LolaLei wrote...

BrotherWarth: Sooo you're cool with them staying how they are?


...

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I'll take that as "no comment" then.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Who gives a flying **** what I want the elves to look like? Are you dying to know what I have to say on the matter? I didn't even say they need to change them. Go back and read my posts. Not once did I say "The elves need to be different in DA3." It doesn't particularly bother me how they look in DA2 and most of the suggestions here are just "Take this from another game/fantasy IP and put it in DA3." I don't want that and that's what I was criticizing from the start.

With respect, if you don't know what you're talking about I can't see why we should.  Posted Image


Unless you're illiterate you should have no problem understanding me or my position on this.

You're right. I think I understand perfectly now.

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BrotherWarth: Y'know, there's no need to be so hostile towards people. Perhaps we were genuinely interested in your opinions. You don't need to be a dick about it.