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[ElitePinecone]

I haven't watched Dawn of the Seeker but as far as I know it doesn't have any DAO/DA2 characters? It probably counts as canon, if only as an origin story for Cassandra?

As for Asunder, I don't recall David Gaider's exact comments (he posted somewhere on the BSN, I think) but he seemed to suggest it was canon so far as the major events went. As in, the Orlesian civil war, Lambert's breaking of the Navarran Accord, the shattering of the Circles and possibly the cure for Tranquility all 'happened' in the canon storyline, even if the specifics were slightly different given that Wynne might not have been there.

(Or, alternatively, he may or may not have implied Wynne survived because of her spirit-possession even if she'd been killed off in Origins, in which case every aspect of Asunder could be canon - I honestly can't remember)

I think it's safe to assume some version of Asunder did actually happen, since Orlais in indeed in a state of civil war, most of the Templars/Seekers have left the Chantry and Cole appears to be a companion.

[Dagr88]

(Sorry if that was mentioned somewhere before) About Leliana been Canon alive.

Leliana can be killed only if you Defile the ashes and she is currently in the party. She will just leave you if she discovers what you actually did post factum. (camp discussion)

The Gauntlet is a place filled with strong magical powers. Some presume that it's the reason why ashes have healing properties. There is a theory that she is resurrected by those magical powers (of the Gauntlet that is, no the ashes).

Guardian accuses her of lying about her vision. With that in mind, her chances of being "Maker's next chosen" are a bit undermined, but that does not diminish power of the Gauntlet.

+ Gauntlet was worth mentioning by Nexus Golem. +1 to its importance.

Modifié par Dagr88, 24 août 2012 - 03:54 .

[ElitePinecone]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

DA3 happens in 9:40, if we take the decade mentioned in the marketing blurb as literally ten years. That manages to make the timeline a bit simpler, since the game will take place after *all* the prior comics, novels, games and movies and we can treat them all as prequels instead of having to deal with things happening simultaneously.

That also fits with Cassandra being influential (after Dawn of the Seeker in 9:37), Orlais being in a state of civil war (as per Asunder in 9:38-9) and Cole already being a significant character with... humanity issues. Cassandra's interrogation of Varric with her splinter loyalist Seeker group (plus Leliana) happens in 9:40.

If DA3 really takes place the literal 10 years later though, Cassandra will be in her mid-thirties or perhaps even fourty... she didn't look that "old" in the concept art.. except, of course, the snips with her in DA2 do really take place in the DA3 time.

Oops, my post wasn't very clear...

The 'ten years' reference in the marketing survey blurb was ten years after *DA Origins* and the Blight, which happened in 9:30. It was mentioning Ferelden struggling to recover from the darkspawn, ten years earlier. 

9:40-version-Cassandra should barely look different to how she looked in Varric's framed narrative, given that the end of DA2 and DA3 (supposedly) happen in the same year. She'd be a couple of years older than whatever she was in Dawn of the Seeker, which happened in 9:37-ish.

[Emzamination]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

It's an unwritten rule that elves must have an unearthly beauty and frolic in nature

What?

What rule? Says who? The fantasy-genre police?

Yes

Blackrising wrote...


Of course they frolic. They wouldn't be elves otherwise.

Don't forget hugging trees as well

LinksOcarina wrote...


Here is the problem. 

Everyone
has a gestalt of what an elf looks like because of 50 years of use as a
fantasy-genre stock character. Lithe, androgynous, beautiful looking,
and so forth.

Personally,  I never cared because in the end the
only real thing that matters is the world says they are elves, and how
they are portrayed reflects the culture of that worlds said elves. 

Elves being beautiful and worshipping nature is the Status quo

[Dagr88]

Velanna: I swear I saw you pick up a handful of dirt and sniff it back there!
Sigrun: I didn't.
Velanna: You did! I saw you.
Sigrun: (Sighs) Fine. But it smells good, like falling leaves and sunlight. Aren't elves supposed to be close to nature?
Velanna: Figuratively! We don't stuff our noses in it!

[azarhal]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

DA3 happens in 9:40, if we take the decade mentioned in the marketing blurb as literally ten years. That manages to make the timeline a bit simpler, since the game will take place after *all* the prior comics, novels, games and movies and we can treat them all as prequels instead of having to deal with things happening simultaneously.

That also fits with Cassandra being influential (after Dawn of the Seeker in 9:37), Orlais being in a state of civil war (as per Asunder in 9:38-9) and Cole already being a significant character with... humanity issues. Cassandra's interrogation of Varric with her splinter loyalist Seeker group (plus Leliana) happens in 9:40.

If DA3 really takes place the literal 10 years later though, Cassandra will be in her mid-thirties or perhaps even fourty... she didn't look that "old" in the concept art.. except, of course, the snips with her in DA2 do really take place in the DA3 time.

Oops, my post wasn't very clear...

The 'ten years' reference in the marketing survey blurb was ten years after *DA Origins* and the Blight, which happened in 9:30. It was mentioning Ferelden struggling to recover from the darkspawn, ten years earlier. 

9:40-version-Cassandra should barely look different to how she looked in Varric's framed narrative, given that the end of DA2 and DA3 (supposedly) happen in the same year. She'd be a couple of years older than whatever she was in Dawn of the Seeker, which happened in 9:37-ish.

Make it simple
9:30: DAO
9:30 to 9:37: DAII (excluding interrogation segments)
9:37: Dawn of the Seeker
9:37-9:39: Asunder (epilogue in 9:40, mostly happen in 9:38)
9:39: latest comic with Varric, Isabella and Alistair
9:40: Cassandra interrogating Varric
9:40: DAIII (based on "leaks")

[ElitePinecone]

^Yes, that's great.

[Wulfram]

Just don't think too much about when exactly Awakening happened

[smallwhippet]

Um...doesn't Awakening happen pretty much immediately after the events of DA:O? The blight is defeated in less than a year, so that would still just about give time for Anders to join the Warden for a few months and leave for Kirkwall, given that he doesn't appear until after Hawke has already been there for over a year. A bit of a stretch, admittedly, but not impossible.

[Wulfram]

smallwhippet wrote...

Um...doesn't Awakening happen pretty much immediately after the events of DA:O? The blight is defeated in less than a year, so that would still just about give time for Anders to join the Warden for a few months and leave for Kirkwall, given that he doesn't appear until after Hawke has already been there for over a year. A bit of a stretch, admittedly, but not impossible.

There's Oghren's baby and Cousland/Alistair's wedding to imply a fairly decent chunk of time between DAO and DAA.  And then you need enough time after Awakening for some bastard to come along and steal Anders' cat.

[The Elder King]

smallwhippet wrote...

Um...doesn't Awakening happen pretty much immediately after the events of DA:O? The blight is defeated in less than a year, so that would still just about give time for Anders to join the Warden for a few months and leave for Kirkwall, given that he doesn't appear until after Hawke has already been there for over a year. A bit of a stretch, admittedly, but not impossible.

I remember that Awakening should've happened a year after the Blight. Though this can't be possible anymore since DA2 and its timeline.

[smallwhippet]

Wulfram wrote...



There's Oghren's baby and Cousland/Alistair's wedding to imply a fairly decent chunk of time between DAO and DAA.  And then you need enough time after Awakening for some bastard to come along and steal Anders' cat.

True. My brain is deficient.

Modifié par smallwhippet, 24 août 2012 - 06:13 .

[Melca36]

How many times does it need to be repeated?

The comic books ARE NOT canon to the game. READ the post from David Gaider

[TamiBx]

Melca36 wrote...

How many times does it need to be repeated?

The comic books ARE NOT canon to the game. READ the post from David Gaider

If you think about it, it makes sense. Alistair is King in the comic books, and no way Bioware would force such an important decision like that on the players (at least not without everyone getting mad). Plus if it were canon, what would be the point of having 3 different Alistairs in DA2? Could've just used the King one 

[BioFan (Official)]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

DA3 happens in 9:40, if we take the decade mentioned in the marketing blurb as literally ten years. That manages to make the timeline a bit simpler, since the game will take place after *all* the prior comics, novels, games and movies and we can treat them all as prequels instead of having to deal with things happening simultaneously.

That also fits with Cassandra being influential (after Dawn of the Seeker in 9:37), Orlais being in a state of civil war (as per Asunder in 9:38-9) and Cole already being a significant character with... humanity issues. Cassandra's interrogation of Varric with her splinter loyalist Seeker group (plus Leliana) happens in 9:40.

If DA3 really takes place the literal 10 years later though, Cassandra will be in her mid-thirties or perhaps even fourty... she didn't look that "old" in the concept art.. except, of course, the snips with her in DA2 do really take place in the DA3 time.

Alistair was 30 in DA:O, and i agree, it would make everything simpler if it started in 9:40

[Dagr88]

Ericander77 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

DA3 happens in 9:40, if we take the decade mentioned in the marketing blurb as literally ten years. That manages to make the timeline a bit simpler, since the game will take place after *all* the prior comics, novels, games and movies and we can treat them all as prequels instead of having to deal with things happening simultaneously.

That also fits with Cassandra being influential (after Dawn of the Seeker in 9:37), Orlais being in a state of civil war (as per Asunder in 9:38-9) and Cole already being a significant character with... humanity issues. Cassandra's interrogation of Varric with her splinter loyalist Seeker group (plus Leliana) happens in 9:40.

If DA3 really takes place the literal 10 years later though, Cassandra will be in her mid-thirties or perhaps even fourty... she didn't look that "old" in the concept art.. except, of course, the snips with her in DA2 do really take place in the DA3 time.

Alistair was 30 in DA:O, and i agree, it would make everything simpler if it started in 9:40

Alistair was somewhat 20 in DA:O. Cailen, his older brother was born in 9:05.

Modifié par Dagr88, 24 août 2012 - 10:31 .

[Renmiri1]

Only thing on Dawn of the Seeker that mentions previous events is one sentence by the corrupt Templar saying he and his buddies won't tolerate things like "the events on Kirkwall"



He is saying he and his buddies will build a new organization, a new Chantry / Templar order "where events like Kirkwall will not be tolerated"

PS: Also from DotS I got this interesting overview of Chantry, Templar and Mages   

Modifié par Renmiri1, 25 août 2012 - 12:37 .

[Melca36]

Avejajed wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

How many times does it need to be repeated?

The comic books ARE NOT canon to the game. READ the post from David Gaider

Eh, maybe I missed something, but wasn't that already stated several times in here? I think most people know the comic books aren't canon- my question was more directed to the books and the film.

My apologies then. It just seems every other post across the forum insists they are canon.  Peace out.

[Melca36]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

How many times does it need to be repeated?

The comic books ARE NOT canon to the game. READ the post from David Gaider

Eh, maybe I missed something, but wasn't that already stated several times in here? I think most people know the comic books aren't canon- my question was more directed to the books and the film.

It's usually best to ignore Melca.

I apologized. No need to get snarky. <_<