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Avejajed wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

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How many times does it need to be repeated?

The comic books ARE NOT canon to the game. READ the post from David Gaider



Eh, maybe I missed something, but wasn't that already stated several times in here? I think most people know the comic books aren't canon- my question was more directed to the books and the film.


It's usually best to ignore Melca.


I apologized. No need to get snarky. <_<


It's fine with me, I just thought maybe I was unclear. :) The comics clearly can't be canon because that's not how it goes in my head. lol. When I read them, my head explodes...and yeah.



I just consider them entertainment. Its understandable on how you can feel that way. :)

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Hah, yeah. Having two groups of friends sort of intermix is just weird to me. I have friends from California where I did my internship and I can't imagine those friends hanging out with my local friends here, that's how I feel about Alistair hanging out with Isabella. lol.

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Avejajed wrote...


So as I figured, the film happens after DA2 and before the parts where Cassandra is interogating Varric. Okay, so that sets up what Orlais is going through- Asunder then is after all of it? Yes? So in the DA world, the events of Asunder have happened right after (give or take) all of the other books, games and films. Asunder's events are the latest events that we know about.


Ya it seems Asunder is the last. I seem to recall they mentioning "what happened on Kirkwall last year" or something to that effect, while talking about Fiona's election to leader of the mages. If I am correct, Asunder takes place at least 2 years after "The Last Straw".

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Melca36 wrote...
I apologized. No need to get snarky. <_<


I have nothing against you, but you tend to come into threads and try to control the conversation.

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Avejajed wrote...


So as I figured, the film happens after DA2 and before the parts where Cassandra is interogating Varric. Okay, so that sets up what Orlais is going through- Asunder then is after all of it? Yes? So in the DA world, the events of Asunder have happened right after (give or take) all of the other books, games and films. Asunder's events are the latest events that we know about.


Ya it seems Asunder is the last. I seem to recall they mentioning "what happened on Kirkwall last year" or something to that effect, while talking about Fiona's election to leader of the mages. If I am correct, Asunder takes place at least 2 years after "The Last Straw".


So we can probably assume that whatever is happening with DA3 will take place after or at least at the tail end of Asunder. Got it.

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How long after DA2 does Asunder take place?

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A few years? I think if you read back a bit it's stated somewhere, but I think we're really just guessing for the most part.

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Asunder's internal timeline is quite long, so I think it's set in 9:38-9, about a year after DA2, with the final scenes (Lambert dissolving the Chantry etc) happening in 9:40.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Asunder's internal timeline is quite long, so I think it's set in 9:38-9, about a year after DA2, with the final scenes (Lambert dissolving the Chantry etc) happening in 9:40.



Is it me or does everyone thinks that Lambert will be a boss enemy somewhere in DA 3

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All we know is that from 9:30-9:40, a lot of stuff went down in Thedas.

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Dagr88 wrote...

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DA3 happens in 9:40, if we take the decade mentioned in the marketing blurb as literally ten years. That manages to make the timeline a bit simpler, since the game will take place after *all* the prior comics, novels, games and movies and we can treat them all as prequels instead of having to deal with things happening simultaneously.

That also fits with Cassandra being influential (after Dawn of the Seeker in 9:37), Orlais being in a state of civil war (as per Asunder in 9:38-9) and Cole already being a significant character with... humanity issues. Cassandra's interrogation of Varric with her splinter loyalist Seeker group (plus Leliana) happens in 9:40.


If DA3 really takes place the literal 10 years later though, Cassandra will be in her mid-thirties or perhaps even fourty... she didn't look that "old" in the concept art.. except, of course, the snips with her in DA2 do really take place in the DA3 time.


Alistair was 30 in DA:O, and i agree, it would make everything simpler if it started in 9:40


Alistair was somewhat 20 in DA:O. Cailen, his older brother was born in 9:05.


No, i remeber one of the writers (i think gaider) talked about how they kinda hated adding in that rule about how the calling can happen up to about 30 years later, cuz he said they said it's mostly like 10-15 years. And he said Alistair was about 30

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Spicen wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Asunder's internal timeline is quite long, so I think it's set in 9:38-9, about a year after DA2, with the final scenes (Lambert dissolving the Chantry etc) happening in 9:40.



Is it me or does everyone thinks that Lambert will be a boss enemy somewhere in DA 3



No, because Cole... SPOILER!!! :whistle:

it's not possible. at all. ever. 

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A quick couple of thoughts, and truthfully I have not bothered to read through 77 pages of discussion, but....

As far as I've been concerned, having read all of "The Silent Grove" and just bought "Those Who Speak" I think they are (the comics) as close to non-player influenced cannon as you can get. Even if you didn't make Alistair king at the end of Origins the 'default choice' for DA2 if you don't import a save game has Alistair as king so....

However I just really want to point out that one of the leaked/revealed/whatever pictures of the potential companions has one that looks exactly like Cullen and Im really excited for that and totally hope they make him an LI.

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Spicen wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Asunder's internal timeline is quite long, so I think it's set in 9:38-9, about a year after DA2, with the final scenes (Lambert dissolving the Chantry etc) happening in 9:40.



Is it me or does everyone thinks that Lambert will be a boss enemy somewhere in DA 3


Not unless we fight ghosts in DA3.

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Ericander77 wrote...

Dagr88 wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

DA3 happens in 9:40, if we take the decade mentioned in the marketing blurb as literally ten years. That manages to make the timeline a bit simpler, since the game will take place after *all* the prior comics, novels, games and movies and we can treat them all as prequels instead of having to deal with things happening simultaneously.

That also fits with Cassandra being influential (after Dawn of the Seeker in 9:37), Orlais being in a state of civil war (as per Asunder in 9:38-9) and Cole already being a significant character with... humanity issues. Cassandra's interrogation of Varric with her splinter loyalist Seeker group (plus Leliana) happens in 9:40.


If DA3 really takes place the literal 10 years later though, Cassandra will be in her mid-thirties or perhaps even fourty... she didn't look that "old" in the concept art.. except, of course, the snips with her in DA2 do really take place in the DA3 time.


Alistair was 30 in DA:O, and i agree, it would make everything simpler if it started in 9:40


Alistair was somewhat 20 in DA:O. Cailen, his older brother was born in 9:05.


No, i remeber one of the writers (i think gaider) talked about how they kinda hated adding in that rule about how the calling can happen up to about 30 years later, cuz he said they said it's mostly like 10-15 years. And he said Alistair was about 30


Actually they did change it. Alistair is 21 in the game. In the concept he was 32. They changed it. Gaider posted it several times.    

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We wouldn't have had Duncan in Origins if the calling took Wardens in just 10-15 years. He was made a Warden when he was barely a man.
The way I see it, being a Warden burns you up. Warden's are virile, powerful people before they take in that taint but it makes them more powerful. The Wardens are known for their near supernatural stamina and ability. The cost they pay is dying early. But it ain't that early.

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Source: dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Ages. All DA2 related events are deleted, except for interegation year. (No spoiler section) But many spoilers from books/comics/movie.

[*] 9:00 Dragon: Led by the young King Maric, Ferelden successfully rebels and throws off Orlesian rule. A short time later, Antiva is shaken by a civil war.

[*] 9:05 Dragon: Birth of Cailan, future king of Ferelden.[3]

[*] 9:08 Dragon: Death of Queen Rowan of Ferelden.[4]

[*] 9:10 Dragon (approx): King Maric allows the Grey Wardens to return to Ferelden after two centuries of exile.[5]

[*] 9:12 Dragon: Thought to have been long lost to the darkspawn, the dwarven city of Kal-Sharok in the Hunterhorn Mountains is rediscovered. The dwarves there are resentful of Orzammar and refuse to bow to the dwarven king's authority.

[*] 9:13 Dragon (approx): The dwarven fortress of Bownammar, home to the Legion of the Dead, falls to the darkspawn.

[*] 9:20 Dragon: Ferelden and Orlais officially make peace after the ascension of Empress Celene to the Orlesian throne.

[*] 9:25 Dragon: King Maric of Ferelden dies at sea,[6] and his son, Cailan, inherits the throne of Ferelden. Approximately one month later, Cailan marries Anora, daughter of Teyrn Loghain Mac Tir.

[*] 9:28 Dragon: The dwarven Paragon Branka takes her entire House, save Oghren, into the Deep Roads in the hopes of finding the Anvil of the Void. The lyrium-infused slave Fenris escapes from his master and heads to the south. Leliana seeks refuge in the Lothering Chantry.

[*] 9:30 Dragon: Events described in Dragon Age: Origins begin. The Fifth Blight begins in the Korcari Wilds and southern Ferelden when the Architect's botched attempt to make a Disciple of Urthemiel instead results in the Old God becoming an Archdemon.
[/list]The Warden is saved by Duncan, the Warden-Commander of Ferelden, and becomes a Grey Warden.

Ferelden is defeated at the Battle of Ostagar by the darkspawn;
the battle is lost when Teyrn Loghain deserts, resulting in the
destruction of the Fereldan army, the near-destruction and exile of the
Grey Warden order, and the deaths of King Cailan Theirin and
Warden-Commander Duncan. The Warden and Alistair are saved by Flemeth.

Teyrn Loghain returns to Denerim and declares himself regent, triggering a civil war between him and Ferelden's nobility.

Events described in Dragon Age II begin.

[*] 9:31 Dragon: Urthemiel is slain by one of the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden at the Battle of Denerim and the Warden becomes the "Hero of Ferelden."

Events described in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening begin. The Darkspawn Civil War begins.

Remaining darkspawn in Ferelden are purged by the Warden-Commander and the replenished Fereldan Wardens. The Darkspawn Civil War ends.

The dwarves of Orzammar are able to reclaim the city of Kal'Hirol. Amgarrak Thaig is overrun by harvesters. The Warden-Commander of Ferelden slays the first harvester and destroys the Golem research.

[*] 9:33 Dragon: The Warden-Commander of Ferelden confronts Morrigan in the Dragonbone Wastes; she leaves through an Eluvian.

[*] 9:34 Dragon: Revered Mother Dorothea ascends as Divine of The Chantry, taking the name Justinia V.

[*] 9:37 Dragon: Events described in Dragon Age: Dawn of the Seeker take place.

[*] 9:38-9:39 Dragon: Discontent with the Empress Celene I's reign sparks a civil war in Orlais.

The College of Enchanters votes to separate from the Chantry. The Circle of Dairsmuid in Rivain has been annulled.

Image IPB Senior Enchanter Wynne sends out a letter to all Andrastian lands detailing a cure for Tranquil mages.

[*] 9:40 Dragon: Following the dissolution of the Circle of Magi, the Nevarran Accord was declared null and void by Lord Seeker Lambert van Reeves. The Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order no longer follow the Chantry's orders.

Varric Tethras is interrogated by Cassandra Pentaghast, one of the few Seekers of Truth still loyal to the Chantry.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Spicen wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Asunder's internal timeline is quite long, so I think it's set in 9:38-9, about a year after DA2, with the final scenes (Lambert dissolving the Chantry etc) happening in 9:40.



Is it me or does everyone thinks that Lambert will be a boss enemy somewhere in DA 3


Not unless we fight ghosts in DA3.



But Lambert aint dead yet.

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I think the Tevinter statue in the Fereldan circle knows a lot of things. Infact the statue says it will come back to its real form when the maker comes to light the fires. Anyone realise anything interesting here. I bet the statue can answer what the realm beyond the fade is.

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Spicen wrote...

But Lambert aint dead yet.


It's strongly implied that he is.

Though if Buffy taught me anything, it's that you really never can tell when someone is actually going to stay "dead." ^_^

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Ericander77 wrote...

No, i remeber one of the writers (i think gaider) talked about how they kinda hated adding in that rule about how the calling can happen up to about 30 years later, cuz he said they said it's mostly like 10-15 years. And he said Alistair was about 30


Well, if Ducan was 20 in the book the calling, he would have been 40 in Origins.  Alistair stated in one of his conversations (remember those) that Duncan was thinking of going on his calling after 20 years.  But starting to think and feel as to go on the Calling, not actually ready to do it.  So 30 sounds about right as established in the original game.

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9:31 Dragon: Urthemiel is slain by one of the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden at the Battle of Denerim and the Warden becomes the "Hero of Ferelden."

Events described in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening begin. The Darkspawn Civil War begins.

Remaining darkspawn in Ferelden are purged by the Warden-Commander and the replenished Fereldan Wardens. The Darkspawn Civil War ends.

The dwarves of Orzammar are able to reclaim the city of Kal'Hirol. Amgarrak Thaig is overrun by harvesters. The Warden-Commander of Ferelden slays the first harvester and destroys the Golem research.



9:33 Dragon: The Warden-Commander of Ferelden confronts Morrigan in the Dragonbone Wastes; she leaves through an Eluvian.


This whole time period to me seemed to have lasted more than just a two year period.Image IPB

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Jerrybnsn wrote...

9:31 Dragon: Urthemiel is slain by one of the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden at the Battle of Denerim and the Warden becomes the "Hero of Ferelden."

Events described in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening begin. The Darkspawn Civil War begins.

Remaining darkspawn in Ferelden are purged by the Warden-Commander and the replenished Fereldan Wardens. The Darkspawn Civil War ends.

The dwarves of Orzammar are able to reclaim the city of Kal'Hirol. Amgarrak Thaig is overrun by harvesters. The Warden-Commander of Ferelden slays the first harvester and destroys the Golem research.



9:33 Dragon: The Warden-Commander of Ferelden confronts Morrigan in the Dragonbone Wastes; she leaves through an Eluvian.


This whole time period to me seemed to have lasted more than just a two year period.Image IPB



I wonder why they made DA2 so long in the timeline.... <_<

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They just announced their PAX prime schedule.

10:00 BioWare Theatre Opens
10:10-11:00 Writing and Character Creation Panel
Mike Laidlaw, Cathleen Rootsaert, Karin Weekes, Kate Fleck, Jay Watamaniuk
12:10-1:00 Voice Acting for Video Games
Caroline Livingstone, Karin Weekes, Mike Laidlaw, Ali Hillis
Friday only: Jennifer Hale
1:10-2:00 Ali Hills Signings
Ali Hillis
2:10-3:00 Recruitment HR/Panel
Leanne Korotash, Chris Pangrass, Jeferson Valadares, Mike Gamble
3:10-4:00 Being an Artist in the Video Game Industry + Portfolio Review
Matt Rhodes, Peter Lipman, Nelson Housden
5:10-6:00 Inside the Development Process
Mike Gamble, Rick Knowles, Jeferson Valadares, Jeff Skalski, Nelson Housden, Matt Rhodes
6:10-7:00 Developer Signings (Friday/Sunday only)
Available Staff
6:10-7:00 Cosplayer Meet Up & Trivia Challenge (Saturday only)
Holly Conrad



so i don't know when exactly we will be seeing a DA3 reveal in this lineup.. (if we are going to that is)

my guess is the opening

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Mike tweeted the other day that they wouldn't be announcing the next game for a while.

I can't see any reason why he'd be misleading on that, so I think what some people were saying about the VGAs in December is more likely.