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[Spicen]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

I hate the Lara Croft busty fan service females some games force you to pick but the models on DA and ME are ok. Is fun looking fit as a warrior from my couch 

I would prefer it if female character like Shepard, Hawke, etc were built more like Aveline than Miranda.















And I'm still angry I didn't get to romance Aveline...

Eh, Mr. Brother Warth, i think Isabela once mentioned Aveline is a manish........... u know its kinda inappropriate.

[Spicen]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Aveline is tough, not mannish. And Isabela doesn't wear pants, so her opinion is moot.

Yeah reading your earlier comments, u have made it clear that u like tough things(no joke), but really i felt aveline was a quite flat character. But ur entitled to ur choices, it cud have been worse *coughs*Leliana*coughs*

[Blackrising]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Oh Come on!! Whynne was 50 year old Granny / Mom like and Avelinne was butch!

Although I have seen a thread here of someone wanting Meredith as LI so I can totally see some players begging for an Avelinne, Wynne and Meredith mod!

Anders is not bad for a mage.. 

There was a topic about Meredith as an LI? Damn, that means I'm late to the party. If Hawke had had the chance to get down and dirty with Meredith...DAYUM. The only reason my Hawke sides with the templars 9 out of 10 times is because Meredith makes me go weak in the knees for some reason. I think I just like that sort of stone-cold personality. (And it would have been especially fun with Hawke being a mage, just to see what would happen.)


Everyone having the same bodytype is not really a dealbreaker for me (since you can always think up your own differences), but it would be nice to see more than models. Just as it would be nice to be able to romance a dwarf or Kossith, you know? Just to get something different and exotic for a change.

Spicen wrote...

Eh, Mr. Brother Warth, i think Isabela once mentioned Aveline is a manish........... u know its kinda inappropriate.

...And how would that be inappropriate?

Modifié par Blackrising, 31 août 2012 - 07:08 .

[Spicen]

Blackrising wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Oh Come on!! Whynne was 50 year old Granny / Mom like and Avelinne was butch!

Although I have seen a thread here of someone wanting Meredith as LI so I can totally see some players begging for an Avelinne, Wynne and Meredith mod!

Anders is not bad for a mage.. 

There was a topic about Meredith as an LI? Damn, that means I'm late to the party. If Hawke had had the chance to get down and dirty with Meredith...DAYUM. The only reason my Hawke sides with the templars 9 out of 10 times is because Meredith makes me go weak in the knees for some reason. I think I just like that sort of stone-cold personality. (And it would have been especially fun with Hawke being a mage, just to see what would happen.)


Everyone having the same bodytype is not really a dealbreaker for me (since you can always think up your own differences), but it would be nice to see more than models. Just as it would be nice to be able to romance a dwarf or Kossith, you know? Just to get something different and exotic for a change.

Spicen wrote...

Eh, Mr. Brother Warth, i think Isabela once mentioned Aveline is a manish........... u know its kinda inappropriate.

...And how would that be inappropriate?

Wh........just forget i said anything.

[BioFan (Official)]

this thread needs some fire underneath it again

[Spicen]

Yep things have slowed down.

I will bring the woods, you go find the bunsen burner

Modifié par Spicen, 01 septembre 2012 - 01:53 .

[Blackrising]

Just gonna stand here and watch it burn, but that's alright because I like...-

Wait, no.

Doesn't anyone have anything left to talk about?
Oh right: Didn't Bioware say that they were looking to Skyrim as inspiration for DA 3? What do you guys think about a Dragon Age that's a little more open-world than we're used to?
Personally, I'm not sure what to think. A bit of open-world could be great, but not if other aspects of the game suffer for it.

[Blackrising]

http://milodrums.tum...or-dragon-age-3

So, just found this on tumblr. According to this guy's friend, Mark Meer has been recording for Dragon Age 3.

...Now, not that I'm not willing to reevaluate my standpoint, but....WHY? The single most important reason I was never able to play Mass Effect as male Shepard was because his voice made me want to kick him in the nuts. If one of my companions end up with that awful, nasal, emotionless voice I will kill or at least ditch that companion first chance I get.

Anyone have any idea if that bit of news is legit? And in case it is, can anyone point me to a bit of voice acting from Mark Meer that does not make me want to kick things?

[ElitePinecone]

Blackrising wrote...

Just gonna stand here and watch it burn, but that's alright because I like...-

Wait, no.

Doesn't anyone have anything left to talk about?
Oh right: Didn't Bioware say that they were looking to Skyrim as inspiration for DA 3? What do you guys think about a Dragon Age that's a little more open-world than we're used to?
Personally, I'm not sure what to think. A bit of open-world could be great, but not if other aspects of the game suffer for it.

(Disclaimer: I haven't actually played Skyrim and don't have much motivation to - that level of player freedom is actually intimidating, and I'm not really a fan of the IP or that method of storytelling)

Obviously we don't know quite what they were referring to in terms of taking inspiration, but I'd be genuinely shocked if Mike or Mark were to pop up in a few months and announce that DA3 was actually an open-world game. I don't think they could pull it off, frankly, and I've heard that for all its breadth Skyrim's world does feel a little soulless in terms of characterisation. The blowback from Kirkwall's limited and repetitive environments shouldn't create the tremptation to go too far in the other direction and make the world huge just for the sake of being so. 

I think it's more likely that they're looking at Skyrim's use of environmental storytelling, complex crafting/appearance customisation systems (look at the companion armour information that was revealed months ago and the crafting feedback topic they're running now) and also a sense of making the world feel more dynamic, alive and expansive. DA and Skyrim are fundamentally different game types, but I think it's worth looking at what can work in terms of inspiration. 

Particularly when one outsold the other by something like six times, and when Skyrim entered the gaming consciousness as a genuinely mainstream and widespread hit. I find it a bit unfortunate (in the sense that DA's level of storytelling deserves a much larger audience) that Bioware announced they were aiming for a wider audience with the second game and apparently fell far short of the mark in sales, only to watch another game come along six months later and prove that a niche-y fantasy RPG could be wildly popular.

I'm sure EA's done market research into what exactly people loved about Skyrim, and I hope it does result in a higher-quality Next Thing. 

[ElitePinecone]

Blackrising wrote...

Anyone have any idea if that bit of news is legit? And in case it is, can anyone point me to a bit of voice acting from Mark Meer that does not make me want to kick things?

He can do a lot of accents. 

Jethann the flamboyant elf, for example...

Or Niftu Cal, the volus biotic god - this scene actually has Meer talking to himself

[Blackrising]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Anyone have any idea if that bit of news is legit? And in case it is, can anyone point me to a bit of voice acting from Mark Meer that does not make me want to kick things?

He can do a lot of accents. 

Jethann the flamboyant elf, for example...

Or Niftu Cal, the volus biotic god - this scene actually has Meer talking to himself

Okay, that is reassuring. Those are way more pleaing than whatever Meer intended to do with Shepard.

[Spedfrom]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Anyone have any idea if that bit of news is legit? And in case it is, can anyone point me to a bit of voice acting from Mark Meer that does not make me want to kick things?

He can do a lot of accents. 

Jethann the flamboyant elf, for example...

Or Niftu Cal, the volus biotic god - this scene actually has Meer talking to himself

Colour me surprised! I thought he was just a very bad actor. It seems Shepard's dull personality and voice were actually intended.

[Dagr88]

There is nothing to take from Skyrim.
Monster's powers grow with PC's level. Already have that.
You can join/help various groups/guilds. DA:O + . DA2 - .
Crafting skills. Do we really need Jack of all trades, master of none? Let NPCs who spent all their live mastering those professions do their work.
Open world map. Yay... that's what we all need... more plains and forests.

If in DA3 we'll need to travel to different nations, several DA:O type maps would be perfect solution. I'm not against "Acts" where you go to one country and stay there until PC's business is finished. But I would appreciate if I can choose where to go first and while I stay in one country something is happening in the others. (+ to replay value)

Modifié par Dagr88, 01 septembre 2012 - 02:18 .

[ggghhhxxxpuf]

And don't forget Meer voices (all?) the vorcha.
He is very talented, but Shepard had a monotonous voice by request of the voice direction team, to be able to roleplay him better, not because he is a bad VA.

[LinksOcarina]

ggghhhxxxpuf wrote...

And don't forget Meer voices (all?) the vorcha.
He is very talented, but Shepard had a monotonous voice by request of the voice direction team, to be able to roleplay him better, not because he is a bad VA.

To be fair to Meer though, he knoked it out of the park in Mass Effect 3 and was even better than  Jennifer Hale for once.

I hope they keep using Meer. Although BioWare reminds me of the Kurosawa Stock Company, reusing the same actors in different roles to keep familiarity amongst them all to the audiences. 

[ElitePinecone]

I'd imagine Bioware repeatedly use voice actors because they'd be familiar with how gaming VO is done, in terms of direction, and ME/DA's methods in particular (different responses to the same scene, multiple dialogue trees, etc). I didn't even realise just how high-quality Bioware's voice-acting process was compared to the industry standard until I played the Game of Thrones RPG: now that I think about it we're pretty lucky to be able to play through Mass Effect 3 or DA2 and not wince every five seconds at the voices.

(Plus I read in a dev post the other day that voice actors are paid by the block for, say, 150 lines, so Bioware might even just have them playing two or three minor characters as well as main ones to make the most of the VA budget - they may as well, when one actor can do a bunch of different voices.)

[Renmiri1]

Blackrising wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Anyone have any idea if that bit of news is legit? And in case it is, can anyone point me to a bit of voice acting from Mark Meer that does not make me want to kick things?

He can do a lot of accents. 

Jethann the flamboyant elf, for example...

Or Niftu Cal, the volus biotic god - this scene actually has Meer talking to himself

Okay, that is reassuring. Those are way more pleaing than whatever Meer intended to do with Shepard.

He is also not that bad looking

[Blackrising]

LinksOcarina wrote...

ggghhhxxxpuf wrote...

And don't forget Meer voices (all?) the vorcha.
He is very talented, but Shepard had a monotonous voice by request of the voice direction team, to be able to roleplay him better, not because he is a bad VA.

To be fair to Meer though, he knoked it out of the park in Mass Effect 3 and was even better than  Jennifer Hale for once.

I hope they keep using Meer. Although BioWare reminds me of the Kurosawa Stock Company, reusing the same actors in different roles to keep familiarity amongst them all to the audiences. 

He did? Then we might have been playing different games. xD

Honestly, it's not even the lack of emotions that bothers me. It's just the tone. Like he's got a permanently stuffed nose.

And if Meer was indeed directed to say his lines in a monotonous way, then that was a pretty bad decision. It also feels ridiculous. Jennifer Hale as FemShep was fab and she never sounded fake or emotionless. Not to mention that Shepard was not really the kind of main character you could make your own. S/he always had her/his own personality.

(However, I may also just still be the tiniest bit bitter about how ManShep got all those great female romance options and FemShep got...Liara.)

[BioFan (Official)]

Blackrising wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Anyone have any idea if that bit of news is legit? And in case it is, can anyone point me to a bit of voice acting from Mark Meer that does not make me want to kick things?

He can do a lot of accents. 

Jethann the flamboyant elf, for example...

Or Niftu Cal, the volus biotic god - this scene actually has Meer talking to himself

Okay, that is reassuring. Those are way more pleaing than whatever Meer intended to do with Shepard.

Bioware would never have him voice anyone of super major importance in his shepard voice.