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[BatmanPWNS]

Hale is a poor renegade and her angry voice sounds extremely forced. Seriously, just compare both of them at the end of Overlord. You can hear the anger and emotion in Meers when he talks to Dr.Gavin Archer. Hale sounds like she's choking on something.

I don't hate Hale, I find her to be a great voice actor, but people seriously let her past history blind their opinion.

[Blackrising]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hale is a poor renegade and her angry voice sounds extremely forced. Seriously, just compare both of them at the end of Overlord. You can hear the anger and emotion in Meers when he talks to Dr.Gavin Archer. Hale sounds like she's choking on something.

I don't hate Hale, I find her to be a great voice actor, but people seriously let her past history blind their opinion.

Now don't go judging everyone like that. I've never heard Hale or Meer before Mass Effect, so my opinion on them stems solely from that and I think Hale was great while Meer's Shepard simply annoyed me.

In the end it's pretty useless to argue about any of that, since it's all up to player preference.

[LolaLei]

BrotherWarth wrote...

I'm much interested in knowing why people think Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor. Seriously, the guy just yells and flails his body around and everyone says he's amazing...

And Kera Knightley, she can only do one range: Posh.

[Renmiri1]

BrotherWarth wrote...

I'm much interested in knowing why people think Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor. Seriously, the guy just yells and flails his body around and everyone says he's amazing...

Well.. his body is hot so most of us are in a daze after he starts flailing it around 

Hale does a very warm paragon voice, I love how much emotion she gives my Sheppard.

[Annie_Dear]

BrotherWarth wrote...

I'm much interested in knowing why people think Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor. Seriously, the guy just yells and flails his body around and everyone says he's amazing...

Daniel Day Lewis did an amazing job in "There Will Be Blood". I haven't seen much of his other work, but he truly stole the show in that movie.

[Blackrising]

Who the heck is Daniel Day Lewis and why does everyone around here know him?

Another question: Where does all the hate for Tallis come from?

[Annie_Dear]

Blackrising wrote...

Who the heck is Daniel Day Lewis and why does everyone around here know him?

Daniel Day Lewis is the man who drinks your milkshake!

What a negative thread. Time to turn this around.

So, i just watched the second season of "Sherlock" and I have to say Benedict Cumberbatch is a great actor. I wouldn't mind if he was in DA3

[thats1evildude]

After The Hobbit, I imagine Benedict Cumberbatch is going to become very, very expensive to hire.

[Annie_Dear]

I can dream...

[Annie_Dear]

Double post. Sorry.

Modifié par Annie_Dear, 03 septembre 2012 - 07:02 .

[Blackrising]

Filament wrote...

They think she's a Mary Sue and/or feel insulted by the perceived geek celebrity cameo fanservice. I think the latter is oversensitive crybabery but the former might be somewhat accurate.

A Mary Sue? I don't know, she failed pretty spectacularly in getting that key...oh well, I actually really liked her. Maybe because flirting with her made the LIs jealous.


Anyway, Benedict Cumberbatch? I've only seen a few episodes of Sherlock, but he does have...something. He's pretty hot, though I don't know why.

[King Cousland]

Filament wrote...

They think she's a Mary Sue and/or feel insulted by the perceived geek celebrity cameo fanservice. I think the latter is oversensitive crybabery but the former might be somewhat accurate.

The Mary Sue tag is, I think, innacurate. A Mary Sue is defined as a character with implausble talents and likeableness, somewhat flawless. Tallis (for me at least) was a character I found very hard to like purely from a writing perspective. She came across as being very cocky (but not in a comical way, like Zevran), hypocritical and loved to cherry pick which parts of the Qun she thought should be imposed on others. I especially didn't like the way Anders raised a serious point about mages and the Qun and Tallis dismissed it like it was nothing and there was no rebuttal. 

[King Cousland]

LolaLei wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

I'm much interested in knowing why people think Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor. Seriously, the guy just yells and flails his body around and everyone says he's amazing...

And Kera Knightley, she can only do one range: Posh.

Daniel Day-Lewis is perhaps a tad overrated, but he is undeniably talented. Keira Knightley? Not so much.

She's completely wooden. I don't even know if I'd call her posh...her accent's a pretty standard southern accent and she doesn't have much grace or class off-screen from what I've seen. 

[Tommyspa]

King Cousland wrote...

Filament wrote...

They think she's a Mary Sue and/or feel insulted by the perceived geek celebrity cameo fanservice. I think the latter is oversensitive crybabery but the former might be somewhat accurate.

The Mary Sue tag is, I think, innacurate. A Mary Sue is defined as a character with implausble talents and likeableness, somewhat flawless. Tallis (for me at least) was a character I found very hard to like purely from a writing perspective. She came across as being very cocky (but not in a comical way, like Zevran), hypocritical and loved to cherry pick which parts of the Qun she thought should be imposed on others. I especially didn't like the way Anders raised a serious point about mages and the Qun and Tallis dismissed it like it was nothing and there was no rebuttal.

Considering she was written to be a flawed person it conflicts with the Mary Sue tag fundementally. Raised in slavery because her parents got rid of her, in Tevinter no less. She doesn't have the backbone of say Fenris being in the same situation, but not as socially crippled by it as Orana is. It isn't overly surprising she left to join the qunari having no concept of anything but suffering or emptiness (her banter with Isabela says as much) and having soft spots for things that made being a "good" qunari a challenge for her too (other little girls being a noble's playthings.) Hence her being demoted. She was written as a "bad" qunari because she isn't as confident in her choice as she wants and pretends to be. But she also isn't willing to just dump her current life to leave the qunari either not without good reason, there are points in dialog in MotA where you see her struggling with it all, but she still wants to do what is right for her people because I think she feels a great deal of thankfulness for the qunari changing her life for the better despite her cherrypicking nature.

She is cocky however in a egotistical way perhaps as another means of self defense, like Zev used humor and sex to hide his flaws. You don't really want them recycling the characters motives/means exactly the same, right? Not to suggest any of that makes her likable because she can be very abrasive/hypocritical regardless, like pretty much everyone. I like her personally however for the reasons I typed.

[Renmiri1]

I loved Talis but I can see people getting annoyed with her and her flawed defense of the Qun on MotA. I think a lot of the anger is also because we can not refuse to side with her in the end. I would have loved to have burned the list of Qun spies, instead of giving it to her.

[Tommyspa]

I figure it is pretty hard to be a Mary Sue when most of the companions don't like the character themselves. Even Hawke can railroad her and threaten her. If there is any Mary Sue in Dragon Age it is every Female PC in both games.

[tishyw]

BrotherWarth wrote...

I'm much interested in knowing why people think Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor. Seriously, the guy just yells and flails his body around and everyone says he's amazing...

I'm curious as to which Daniel Day Lewis films you've seen, it's all a matter of opinion but I think DDL is the finest actor of his generation.  Have you seen his earlier work like My Left Foot and In the Name of the Father?

[Annie_Dear]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Annie_Dear wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

I'm much interested in knowing why people think Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor. Seriously, the guy just yells and flails his body around and everyone says he's amazing...

Daniel Day Lewis did an amazing job in "There Will Be Blood". I haven't seen much of his other work, but he truly stole the show in that movie.

Ugh. No. He went from calm and quiet to yelling for no reason at the drop of a dime in that movie. The man can't do subtle. He's incapable of subtle dialogue or character progression. That movie was already boring but his ridiculous acting made it unbearable for me.

That's why he was so great in the movie: his character isn't subtle. He tries to be, but deep down, the more and more money and power he gets, the angrier and spiteful he becomes. That's the whole point of the character. That's why he loses it at the end of the movie.

Modifié par Annie_Dear, 04 septembre 2012 - 05:15 .