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[Immortal Strife]

classis thread-classic fail by Pedactor. If you don't use it that's fine by me, less users equates to a smaller chance of the rifle being nerfed. You can spit out all the rhetoric you want and it won't change my opinion that the PPR is the 3rd most dominant gun in the game just behind the Piranha and Harrier. And is easily the main componant on my 2nd best character, the MQI-the PPR synergies perfectly with TS. I drop platinum bosses in one clip (I use no extra ammo mods btw) with little exposure.

* if you are wonder what the most dominant class is...it's of course the GI with an Indra and a Piranha-6/5/6/6/3; try it, you won't be disappointed I guarantee it.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 17 août 2012 - 06:10 .

[Quarian_Lover]

I see some nerfers crying about this.

[Cohen le Barbare]

ryoldschool wrote...
Also, somebody mentioned somewhere ( maybe not this thread ) that the sound drops off with about 50 "rounds" left in the gun and you can use that to tell when to stop holding the trigger - that way you could keep your eye on the target instead of looking at the ammo count.   --  I was listening for that last night and was unable to detect the audible clue.  Maybe if I played with earphones on I could hear it, but not with my speaker system.

I'm going to try to hear the sound difference tonight.

For what it's worth, the weapon's clip lasts for, roughly, the duration of adrenaline rush (without the extended time evo) after it's charged. That's more than enough to deal massive damage. Most weapons require more than one clip to take down a boss anyway.

I'd choose a human soldier with cyclonic modulator over a destroyer, despite the ammo capacity granted by devastator mode, but that's personnal taste. 

[Pedactor]

Immortal Strife wrote...

classic thread-classic fail by Pedactor. If you don't use it that's fine by me, less users equates to a smaller chance of the rifle being nerfed. You can spit out all the rhetoric you want and it won't change my opinion that the PPR is the 3rd most dominant gun in the game just behind the Piranha and Harrier. And is easily the main componant on my 2nd best character, the MQI-the PPR synergies perfectly with TS and I drop platinum bosses in one clip (I use no extra ammo mods btw) with little exposure.

If you think that if they view 10 people dominating with that gun and everybody else ignoring it and hoping not to have it upgraded that they won't change it, then you are probably 100% right.

Glad you can use it properly, too.

Doesn't change the fact that I think you'd probably dominate with multiple other guns, too.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Quarian_Lover wrote...

I see some nerfers crying about this.

I don't think so, this weapon gets you killed a lot and is very frustrating until you get the hang of it. Nerfers don't bother with such weapons.

[Pedactor]

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

Quarian_Lover wrote...

I see some nerfers crying about this.

I don't think so, this weapon gets you killed a lot and is very frustrating until you get the hang of it. Nerfers don't bother with such weapons.

What's your opinion on the benefits of using it? 

[Ashen One]

@Pedactor

Right hand advantage, and soft cover. Learn what they mean.

It is very possible to fire an entire clip into any enemy and not take any damage at all. Of course you're going to die if you're herping and derping around in the middle of the map with it, taking fire on all sides. Bosses are easy to flank. An intelligent player staggers the smaller enemies with a power like Arc Grenade, or Proximity Mine before firing.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 17 août 2012 - 06:16 .

[Pedactor]

Ashen Earth wrote...

@Pedactor

Right hand advantage, and soft cover. Learn what they mean.

It is very possible to fire an entire clip into any enemy and not take any damage at all. Of course you're going to die if you're herping and derping around in the middle of the map with it, taking fire on all sides. Bosses are easy to flank. An intelligent player staggers the smaller enemies with a power like Arc Grenade, or Proximity Mine before firing.

I know what those mean.  I use them all the time.  I tend to run and revive teammates or on objective waves.

That doesn't change the fact that without stagger immunity this gun suffers immensely and to say you never get hit means you are lying or playing an infiltrator, in which case, TC's bonus is only going to apply if you cloak mid stream with the gun already ramped up on full damage shots.

Yeah it does high damage to bosses, but I don't like it compared to lolranha, which is easier to use and staggers nearly immediately while innately penetrating light cover.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Pedactor wrote...
What's your opinion on the benefits of using it? 

1. Like a lot of people here, I'm a huge science fiction fan and it's a freaking laser of doom.
2. I often play with headphones on, and this weapon goes easy on the ears, unlike the typhon or pirhana.
3. My screen doesn't shake when I use it.
4. I've learned to use it and its damage output is great.*
5. I don't have to run to every ammo boxes like I do when I use an Harrier

* 1. it took me several bronze solo runs to understand the ropes. You do need a backup weapon weapon for tight situations.
This is my favorite build with this weapon:

narida.pytalhost.com/me3/classes/#10QDJLRr0M9FECFC4E4Z4G4

Take a good hand gun with ulm and you're set (carnifex with AP is good). As far as equipment goes, I use warfighter pack, AR amp, Fire/warp weapons and Power amplifier (for grenades and CS) or Cyclonic Modulators. I can survive in gold.

Edit: new link with my regular setup.

Modifié par Cohen le Barbare, 17 août 2012 - 06:29 .

[rcolol]

Its great the Destroyer, but I prefer it on the Human Soldier with AR.

[Ashen One]

Pedactor wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

@Pedactor

Right hand advantage, and soft cover. Learn what they mean.

It is very possible to fire an entire clip into any enemy and not take any damage at all. Of course you're going to die if you're herping and derping around in the middle of the map with it, taking fire on all sides. Bosses are easy to flank. An intelligent player staggers the smaller enemies with a power like Arc Grenade, or Proximity Mine before firing.

I know what those mean.  I use them all the time.  I tend to run and revive teammates or on objective waves.

That doesn't change the fact that without stagger immunity this gun suffers immensely and to say you never get hit means you are lying or playing an infiltrator, in which case, TC's bonus is only going to apply if you cloak mid stream with the gun already ramped up on full damage shots.

The stagger issue is only really a problem against Geth Primes because they tend to throw turrets off to the side of walls you're using and their shots will sometimes track you and stagger you when you're using soft cover. Any class in the game can use the weapon and not take damage while using right hand advantage.

Pedactor wrote...
Yeah it does high damage to bosses, but I don't like it compared to lolranha, which is easier to use and staggers nearly immediately while innately penetrating light cover.

It does high damage to everything. Piranha is easier to use, but that doesn't mean "better".

Also, innate cover penetration? You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Pedactor]

Ashen Earth wrote...


It does high damage to everything. Piranha is easier to use, but that doesn't mean "better".

Also, innate cover penetration? You have no idea what you're talking about.

You're right, I don't.  You are amazing because you can use a gun that isn't user friendly.

Congratulations.  I shall consider myself owned on the forums by the minority of players who love the PPR and don't find its mechanics terrible for a very small advantage of profit.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Pedactor wrote...
You're right, I don't.  You are amazing because you can use a gun that isn't user friendly.

Congratulations.  I shall consider myself owned on the forums by the minority of players who love the PPR and don't find its mechanics terrible for a very small advantage of profit.

It's a hard thing playing devil's advocate in a fan thread

[Pedactor]

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

Pedactor wrote...
You're right, I don't.  You are amazing because you can use a gun that isn't user friendly.

Congratulations.  I shall consider myself owned on the forums by the minority of players who love the PPR and don't find its mechanics terrible for a very small advantage of profit.

It's a hard thing playing devil's advocate in a fan thread

Making a fan thread about a gun with arguably the most glaring designed-in drawbacks in the game is as stupid as that is hard.

FYI: Most PPR users I see in random golds or platinums are kicked.  So it's not all sunshine and daisies with that thing.  And no, I don't initiate them.  I only kick people that keep me waiting in the lobby for 20 minutes.

Modifié par Pedactor, 17 août 2012 - 06:46 .

[Immortal Strife]

To be fair to you Predactor, Ashen and I both have the PPR at X, so it could very well be less effective at lower levels.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 17 août 2012 - 07:00 .

[Cohen le Barbare]

Immortal Strife wrote...

To be fair to you Predactor, Ashen and I both have the PPR at X, so it could very well be less effective at lower levels.

No, I have it at 1 and I hold my own on gold with a human soldier. At the same time, I will do poorly with a graal or GPS. This gun is very much a love/hate relationship.

[megabeast37215]

Immortal Strife wrote...

To be fair to you Predactor, Ashen and I both have the PPR at X, so it could very well be less effective at lower levels.

I've been playing on my kids account and he has the PPR at II, it's not as dominant as mine at X. That said, Predactor... doesn't seem to know what he's talking about... likely doing it wrong. It's a top 3-5 weapon...

[soultaker65]

Immortal Strife wrote...

To be fair to you Predactor, Ashen and I both have the PPR at X, so it could very well be less effective at lower levels.

Since the ammo fix/buff maybe, but I don't think the level makes that much of a difference in damage. I have it at 2 it does great.

[Pedactor]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

To be fair to you Predactor, Ashen and I both have the PPR at X, so it could very well be less effective at lower levels.

I've been playing on my kids account and he has the PPR at II, it's not as dominant as mine at X. That said, Predactor... doesn't seem to know what he's talking about... likely doing it wrong. It's a top 3-5 weapon...

Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.

So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

[kicsimalac]

Pedactor wrote...

kicsimalac wrote...

Don't bring up how hard is it to use as a fact. I have no problem using it at all. I don't understand why is it hard to use it. It is absolutly easy to use, just watch your ammo remaining, so you don't have to wait 5 secs just 3, don't go rambo with it, but stay behind your teammates and get the bastards off them and the most important is to point it at the enemy.

I do not hide behind anything but cover on a destroyer.  He's a front-line fighter.  So no, I won't be doing that, and if that's how you play with that gun, I would recommend speccing 6/6/6/6/0 on your destroyer.

Also:

What other gun requires you to sit there for 5 seconds if you run its clip to zero?

What other gun has a 3 second charge up to deal maximum damage via round expenditure?

What other automatic weapon has its bullets fall to the ground at 50 meters?

Can you explain me why THE HECK I should change a tactic that keeps me AND my friends alive on platinum?

[Pedactor]

kicsimalac wrote...

Can you explain me why THE HECK I should change a tactic that keeps me AND my friends alive on platinum?

Hey if it works, go for it.  For me and many others who would gladly trade their PPR for more ranks of other UR guns, it doesn't work.

[soultaker65]

Pedactor wrote...

Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.

So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

This kicking thing must be Xbox/PC only because I go into Gold PUGs with the PR and no Consumables all the time and I have never been kicked for using the PR.

And the wind up is 2 seconds how is that to long?

Modifié par soultaker65, 17 août 2012 - 07:25 .

[Pedactor]

soultaker65 wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.

So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

This kicking thing must be Xbox/PC only because I go into Gold PUG with the PR and no Consumables and I have never been kick for using the PR.

And the wind up is 2 seconds how is that to long?

It's on PC.

The duration is too long when not continuously firing (burst firing).

But I do it wrong.

[kicsimalac]

soultaker65 wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.

So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

This kicking thing must be Xbox/PC only because I go into Gold PUGs with the PR and no Consumables and I have never been kick for using the PR.

And the wind up is 2 seconds how is that to long?

I have never been kicked before either. Probably people trust someone with N7 990 and a particle rifle X. 

Pedactor

Hey if it works, go for it.  For me and many others who would gladly trade their PPR for more ranks of other UR guns, it doesn't work.

I do go for it. That's my tactic on platinum. Search a good spot where enemies can't surprise you, put your allies in cover and let the enemies shoot them, and then melt them to the ground. Your allies are safe, so as you. They provide you support fire from their covers.

Modifié par kicsimalac, 17 août 2012 - 07:31 .

[Immortal Strife]

soultaker65 wrote...

Pedactor wrote...
Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.
So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

This kicking thing must be Xbox/PC only because I go into Gold PUGs with the PR and no Consumables all the time and I have never been kicked for using the PR.

And the wind up is 2 seconds how is that to long?

Please explain why you don't use consumables? I ask because it's a pet-peeve of mine-I kick equipment hoarders 100% of the time.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 17 août 2012 - 07:31 .