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[gorezeelar]

Did anyone try this build with the Reegar? I maxed out everything and leave missile launcher blank, so I can haul a shotgun and my typhoon, because IMO ML is useless anyway.

[kicsimalac]

gorezeelar wrote...

Did anyone try this build with the Reegar? I maxed out everything and leave missile launcher blank, so I can haul a shotgun and my typhoon, because IMO ML is useless anyway.

I use that as a backup weapon. It is good, but the range is heavily limited

[soultaker65]

Pedactor wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.

So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

This kicking thing must be Xbox/PC only because I go into Gold PUG with the PR and no Consumables and I have never been kick for using the PR.

And the wind up is 2 seconds how is that to long?

It's on PC.

The duration is too long when not continuously firing (burst firing).

But I do it wrong.

So the main reason you don't like it is because it's not a burst fire gun?

So you must dislike the Reegar, GPSMG, and Typhoon since you can use burst fire with them either.

[Immortal Strife]

gorezeelar wrote...

Did anyone try this build with the Reegar? I maxed out everything and leave missile launcher blank, so I can haul a shotgun and my typhoon, because IMO ML is useless anyway.

The standard build is to skip ML but that may change with more understanding and Bioware buffs.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Pedactor wrote...
This kicking thing must be Xbox/PC only because I go into Gold PUG with the PR and no Consumables and I have never been kick for using the PR.

Why would you not use consumables on this weapon? On gold on top of that? Even a level 1 ammo consumable is great on it. 

As far as I'm concerned, I've played maybe 2/3 games with PPR users... I'd like to find a PC team with 4 PPR users. That would be a sight to behold!

[soultaker65]

Immortal Strife wrote...

Please explain why you don't use consumables? I ask because it's a pet-peeve of mine-I kick equipment hoarders 100% of the time.

I get disconnected 90% of the time so unless I'm playing with people from the BSN I don't use consumables on Gold, but I always use consumables on Platinum. 

Besides the PR still does great on Gold with just a Assault Rifle Amp V.

Modifié par soultaker65, 17 août 2012 - 07:38 .

[Pedactor]

soultaker65 wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.

So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

This kicking thing must be Xbox/PC only because I go into Gold PUG with the PR and no Consumables and I have never been kick for using the PR.

And the wind up is 2 seconds how is that to long?

It's on PC.

The duration is too long when not continuously firing (burst firing).

But I do it wrong.

So the main reason you don't like it is because it's not a burst fire gun?

So you must dislike the Reegar, GPSMG, and Typhoon since you can use burst fire with them either.

No.  I don't like the Typhoon because it's bad after the nerf and weighs a ton and the Revenant does more damage in my experience, as is most of the feedback of those I play with who didn't start using it again until it reached lvl 6.   The only SMG I use is the Hurricane.  All the others are junk imo.  The Reegar I still use, but only on a Kroguard.

[Kiernin]

Bhatair wrote...

I'd wonder if having the missile launcher specced for hydra missiles wouldn't be a better option than grenades.
The reasoning being that they will continuously fire and stagger enemies while you fire the PPR in 'hot' mode. Grenades would interrupt the firing. Besides, multi frags are pretty meh themselves.

The problem with this weapon is first range, and then the ramp time. Range seems to be around 20m which is not enough on some maps, and the ramp up is a real hindrance on Plat, where the damage is so high, that even with cyclonic mod IV,I find my destroyer taking cover way before the beam has 'powered' up. Im not saying it's a bad gun, I actually like it too. But it does have a few shortcomings I havent found a way around yet on platinum.

[Kiernin]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Titus Thongger wrote...

Couldn't make it work for me against Geth. Too much Geth prime rail cannon shots

If the gun has a weakness, that's definitely it.

Although the Destroyer is immune to stagger when Devastator Mode is on.

No. On or off, the Destroyer is immune to stagger. Thats just his innate passive independant of devastator mode.

Modifié par Kiernin, 17 août 2012 - 07:59 .

[soultaker65]

@ Pedactor

You play on the PC? That maybe why you don't like it. ( this is not a Console vs PC thing).

I maybe wrong but you have to use the mouse to move the camera and shoot and the keyboard to move your character right? It maybe the difference between using analog sticks + triggers and using the keyboard + mouse that makes the PR seem so bad on the PC.

But I don't play PC games let alone shooters so I maybe wrong.

[Pedactor]

soultaker65 wrote...

@ Pedactor

You play on the PC? That maybe why you don't like it. ( this is not a Console vs PC thing).

I maybe wrong but you have to use the mouse to move the camera and shoot and the keyboard to move your character right? It maybe the difference between using analog sticks + triggers and using the keyboard + mouse that makes the PR seem so bad on the PC.

But I don't play PC games let alone shooters so I maybe wrong.

Yeah mouse moves the camera and aims.  I have a high res gaming laser mouse, though.

I thought of that, it could be true, but I think the reason most vote to kick PPR users is that they end up on the floor alot unless they are very good with it.  No other weapon that I can think of does that.

[Cohen le Barbare]

I thought of that, it could be true, but I think the reason most vote to kick PPR users is that they end up on the floor alot unless they are very good with it.  No other weapon that I can think of does that.
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I give you that, this weapon is neither a front line weapon or one you shoot in the open. You're more of a Ravager than a Brute with it, if you catch my drift. Heavy support fire, so to speak. When I play on gold with my human soldier, I can be a giant with feet of clay. But as I'm mostly staying behind, I don't get my teammates killed if they want to rez me.

[Clarkkent434]

Two question for PR on destroyer. Particle rifle is the only UR I don't have.

1.Does RoF effect particle rifle?
2.Does the Gear bonus- Thermal Clip Storage- affect the capacity of the PR?

[Arcadian Legend]

Infinite death is best kind of death.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Clarkkent434 wrote...

Two question for PR on destroyer. Particle rifle is the only UR I don't have.

1.Does RoF effect particle rifle?
2.Does the Gear bonus- Thermal Clip Storage- affect the capacity of the PR?

I'm not sure that RoF is worth it/works, I'd go for thermal clip size.
2. No, the gear bonus don't apply to the PPR, at least the level 1 (which I have) doesn't

[kicsimalac]

Clarkkent434 wrote...

Two question for PR on destroyer. Particle rifle is the only UR I don't have.

1.Does RoF effect particle rifle?
2.Does the Gear bonus- Thermal Clip Storage- affect the capacity of the PR?

Rate of fire comes with this. The weapon becomes faster, but as I recall, it doesn't enter the kickarse mode faster, you still have to wait 3 secs
Gear, however does not apply.

I have tested. I speak the truth

Modifié par kicsimalac, 17 août 2012 - 08:13 .

[Clarkkent434]

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

Clarkkent434 wrote...

Two question for PR on destroyer. Particle rifle is the only UR I don't have.

1.Does RoF effect particle rifle?
2.Does the Gear bonus- Thermal Clip Storage- affect the capacity of the PR?

I'm not sure that RoF is worth it/works, I'd go for thermal clip size.
2. No, the gear bonus don't apply to the PPR, at least the level 1 (which I have) doesn't

I did not think the RoF work. But the Gear should have work its gear come on Bioware.

[tdoshea90]

i like to use it on the regular human soldier. can one clip an atlas on gold with adrenaline rush and an armor piercing mod.

[Pedactor]

Clarkkent434 wrote...

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

Clarkkent434 wrote...

Two question for PR on destroyer. Particle rifle is the only UR I don't have.

1.Does RoF effect particle rifle?
2.Does the Gear bonus- Thermal Clip Storage- affect the capacity of the PR?

I'm not sure that RoF is worth it/works, I'd go for thermal clip size.
2. No, the gear bonus don't apply to the PPR, at least the level 1 (which I have) doesn't

I did not think the RoF work. But the Gear should have work its gear come on Bioware.

Barrage Gear helps spare clip capacity.  The Particle Rifle has no spare clip.  It has a clip.  That recharges itself after it makes a terrible smell if you run it to zero and gets really hot.

[Ashen One]

Clarkkent434 wrote...

Two question for PR on destroyer. Particle rifle is the only UR I don't have.

1.Does RoF effect particle rifle?
2.Does the Gear bonus- Thermal Clip Storage- affect the capacity of the PR?

1. Yes, but you don't go into hot mode any faster. Of course you're doing much higher DPS, but you're burning more ammo in cold mode as well, so in a way it hurts the Particle Rifle.

2. No. It has no recoil, so the stability bonus is wasted.

It has no spare ammo, so the spare clip capacity is wasted.

Pedactor wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...


It does high damage to everything. Piranha is easier to use, but that doesn't mean "better".

Also, innate cover penetration? You have no idea what you're talking about.

You're right, I don't.  You are amazing because you can use a gun that isn't user friendly.

Congratulations. 
I shall consider myself owned on the forums by the minority of players
who love the PPR and don't find its mechanics terrible for a very small
advantage of profit.

Don't feel too bad, man. There will be plenty of other great weapons/classes for you to complain about being "bad" when in reality it's your own lrn2play issues. Even the Claymore was considered one of the worst guns in the game at one point, because this is BSN. I'm sure BSN will find a new punching bag with the next DLC.

Have a little faith.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 17 août 2012 - 08:29 .

[Pedactor]

Ashen Earth wrote...


Don't feel too bad, man. There will be plenty of other great weapons/classes for you to complain about being "bad" when in reality it's your own lrn2play issues. Even the Claymore was considered one of the worst guns in the game at one point, because this is BSN. I'm sure BSN will find a new punching bag with the next DLC.

Have a little faith.

I know, although I represent the vast majority of people who don't use the gun compared to the minority who do, I'm sure at some point they'll reduce the ramp-up and then you and your boys can reminisce about the good ole days when you guys made a gun with a bad design work and how awesome you all were for doing so.

[kicsimalac]

Pedactor wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...


Don't feel too bad, man. There will be plenty of other great weapons/classes for you to complain about being "bad" when in reality it's your own lrn2play issues. Even the Claymore was considered one of the worst guns in the game at one point, because this is BSN. I'm sure BSN will find a new punching bag with the next DLC.

Have a little faith.

I know, although I represent the vast majority of people who don't use the gun compared to the minority who do, I'm sure at some point they'll reduce the ramp-up and then you and your boys can reminisce about the good ole days when you guys made a gun with a bad design work and how awesome you all were for doing so.

This has nothing to do with how awesome we are for making a weapon work which the most of the people can't make work. It's about we want to enjoy the game and search for varieties, and interesting new builds to play. It's about defending something that doesn't deserve to be hated, and show people that if they can't make it work it's just their own fault.

[Ashen One]

Pedactor wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...


Don't feel too bad, man. There will be plenty of other great weapons/classes for you to complain about being "bad" when in reality it's your own lrn2play issues. Even the Claymore was considered one of the worst guns in the game at one point, because this is BSN. I'm sure BSN will find a new punching bag with the next DLC.

Have a little faith.

I know, although I represent the vast majority of people who don't use the gun compared to the minority who do, I'm sure at some point they'll reduce the ramp-up and then you and your boys can reminisce about the good ole days when you guys made a gun with a bad design work and how awesome you all were for doing so.

It's more likely that I'll just be thankful for yet another unnecessary buff to one of my favorite guns because the masses don't know how to play the game.

[Pedactor]

kicsimalac wrote...

This has nothing to do with how awesome we are for making a weapon work which the most of the people can't make work.

show people that if they can't make it work it's just their own fault.

OK, so the second quote directly contradicts the first.

And......

Just as the Piranha was nerfed because everybody used the hell out of it (and still does because its very design is OP'd), so too shall this gun be changed if representation of its usage remains in the toilet.  Unless of course they designed the gun for the minority who currently succeed with it.

That's the way this works.  You can shred me and rip on me all you want.  Hell they could buff its multiplier to 8 times, that still wouldn't change the fact that the ramp up, plus the weight, plus the 5 second reload are NOT going to ever make this gun mainstream, user-friendly to the majority of shooter players.

[Pedactor]

Ashen Earth wrote...

It's more likely that I'll just be thankful for yet another unnecessary buff to one of my favorite guns because the masses don't know how to play the game.

That's right!  The vast majority of people suck, except for you!

The gun is fine!