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[kicsimalac]

Pedactor wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It's more likely that I'll just be thankful for yet another unnecessary buff to one of my favorite guns because the masses don't know how to play the game.

That's right!  The vast majority of people suck, except for you!

The gun is fine!

Seriously, why are you doing this? Are you a troll of some kind? You come to a thread that teaches you the ways of using the PPR, only to say the PPR sucks multiple times? Are you mentally handicapped or something? You say you represent the majority, but you are the only one here, who constantly says this. Every gun has a weakness. It's the user's problem to companste for it's weaknesses. Heavy weight? Don't give it to classes who rely on their powers? 5 second reload? Don't deplete all the stuff or keep little stops to reload it in 1 sec. Don't have time for the ramp up? Don't go Rambo in the middle of the map with enmies in all directions! Life is that simple.

Modifié par kicsimalac, 17 août 2012 - 09:09 .

[Machazareel]

Immortal Strife wrote...

To be fair to you Predactor, Ashen and I both have the PPR at X, so it could very well be less effective at lower levels.

Nah, I have mine at IV and I've been placing first in almost every plat and gold match I've played with it since I started using it. But I did that with Rev and Typhoon, too. Destroyer is just a beast with any weapon imo. I'll concur that it handles mooks just fine, too. Headshots mow them down quick.

I may try it with the MQI or something, I haven't actually tried that class at all yet, it'll be weird getting used to using TC mid-fire, heh.

[kicsimalac]

I hope this thread actually helped someone on the usage of the PPR

[EricS86]

I've tried using the build in the op with this for several silver games and I suck at it, I'm much better with the saber and either piranha or hurricane. I have a very hard time keeping it continually on target with the lighter enemies for such a long time, even when not zooming in.

[HinDae]

I see how it works well, but I've not tried it.

Maybe tomorrow. my PPR II is just gathering dust at the moment.

[dzero]

This weapon on Destroyer is an absolute dream. Just tried it now. Absolutely tears bosses apart.

[Ashen One]

Pedactor wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It's more likely that I'll just be thankful for yet another unnecessary buff to one of my favorite guns because the masses don't know how to play the game.

That's right!  The vast majority of people suck, except for you!

The gun is fine!

Sarcasm aside, if the "vast majority" of PUGs I've played count for anything then that sounds about right.

It's kinda funny though, because this game is relatively easy.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 17 août 2012 - 11:02 .

[WaffleCrab]

I find it funny it took this long for someone to actually make a post like this. Also here is a reason why it is easy to tell when PPR is running low on ammo(to all the nay sayers)

Increase the volume and watch in HD to so you can see the ammo count Vid is here

[megabeast37215]

Pedactor wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

To be fair to you Predactor, Ashen and I both have the PPR at X, so it could very well be less effective at lower levels.

I've been playing on my kids account and he has the PPR at II, it's not as dominant as mine at X. That said, Predactor... doesn't seem to know what he's talking about... likely doing it wrong. It's a top 3-5 weapon...

Whether I'm doing it wrong or not, there's more than just me, in this very thread, who don't like the gun.  And as I said, in Gold PUGs, I have seen many kicked for using it.  And by many I mean more than 20 times.

So congratulations to you all, as I've said before.  But with that said, buff this gun by halving the charge up time.  That's all there is to it.

Why should Bioware buff the most powerful AR in the game? Derp.

Gold PUGS.... lol.

[megabeast37215]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It's more likely that I'll just be thankful for yet another unnecessary buff to one of my favorite guns because the masses don't know how to play the game.

That's right!  The vast majority of people suck, except for you!

The gun is fine!

Sarcasm aside, if the "vast majority" of PUGs I've played count for anything then that sounds about right.

It's kinda funny though, because this game is relatively easy.

Truth... as usual.

[Lucius Aelius]

Well I've been saying this gun wasn't that bad from the start, suffice it to say with the recent buffs it is now just about (if not exactly) where it should be as an UR weapon. Of course it is a very specialized gun (best modded with the most ammo per clip possible, plus stagger immunity is a big plus), even so it's (at least almost) every bit as good as i hoped it would be if/when they introduced it to MP, and I concur with OP that anyone naysaying this gun doesn't know how to use it.

And for the record I always use extended mag and AP mods on my Particle Rifle, also Incendiary is always my first choice of ammo powers to pair with it, and in case it wasn't clear already, Destroyer specced for extra ammo capacity is where this gun really shines (the stagger immunity also making him that much better a match with the weapon).

[Uchimura]

WaffleCrab wrote...

I find it funny it took this long for someone to actually make a post like this. Also here is a reason why it is easy to tell when PPR is running low on ammo(to all the nay sayers)

Increase the volume and watch in HD to so you can see the ammo count Vid is here

Thanks

[funfryfrenzy]

Ugh Simple enough... If you cant use it properly and hate it then dont use it.

If you can use properly and love it (aka i do) then its your Death Ray.

Even at low lvls the PPR is a beast. Mines at 3 and a lot of matches i top the scores with it.

[kicsimalac]

EricS86 wrote...

I've tried using the build in the op with this for several silver games and I suck at it, I'm much better with the saber and either piranha or hurricane. I have a very hard time keeping it continually on target with the lighter enemies for such a long time, even when not zooming in.

Well yeah, unfortunately not for bronze and silver without experience. It is the best at gold and platinum. Could dominate on lower difficulities aswell, but this weapon is basically not suited for those.

[WaffleCrab]

kicsimalac wrote...

EricS86 wrote...

I've tried using the build in the op with this for several silver games and I suck at it, I'm much better with the saber and either piranha or hurricane. I have a very hard time keeping it continually on target with the lighter enemies for such a long time, even when not zooming in.

Well yeah, unfortunately not for bronze and silver without experience. It is the best at gold and platinum. Could dominate on lower difficulities aswell, but this weapon is basically not suited for those.

Ok i am going ahead of my time table saying this(releasing my first episode of "How do I use this ****!" series which is basically ME3 MP tuts, tomorrow)

Basic things you need to consider when using PPR:
About the build, 2 of following 4 things should be present in your build if you use this weapon. Damage buff aside from passive or a trickle DoT skill, Tanking 1800+ combined hp and shields(Remember to count damage reductions), Evasion TC, C.Roll, Decoy, Drone, teleport... or The ability to not care about CD's

Basic things about using your PPR:
-Engaging the enemy: Do not shoot till your HUD has a lock on it(basically the same distance as guns max distance)
-Know what you engage; Prefer targets you can stagger, or who are fast first.
-Positioning. Try to position yourself into a spot where you are aprox 20-24 meters from spawn. When fighting bosses keep half of your body atleast behind a wall when shooting, so you can take cover faster(when on move or retreating)
-While on move dont use cover to cover movement, run straight where you want to go, so you can put distance on you and enemies.
-Go for the headshots(with this gun aim for the neck, it seems to glitch with anything else than cannibals if you shoot above neck)
-Hum to the tune of ghostbusters whenever you melt something

[kitty209]

if this discussion will somehow make the gun get nerfed, everyone get tossed out of the airlock, now let this thing sink and dissapear.

[JC_aka_fps_john]

I was using this combination earlier against Cerberus, it really does work wonders.

It also made me want to spec for missile launcher, since the missiles cause Phantoms to bring their shield up. Once they do that you just can burn their face off, killing them in very short order. They're tough to hit otherwise

[ParatrooperSean]

Lucius Aelius wrote...

Well I've been saying this gun wasn't that bad from the start, suffice it to say with the recent buffs it is now just about (if not exactly) where it should be as an UR weapon. Of course it is a very specialized gun (best modded with the most ammo per clip possible, plus stagger immunity is a big plus), even so it's (at least almost) every bit as good as i hoped it would be if/when they introduced it to MP, and I concur with OP that anyone naysaying this gun doesn't know how to use it.

And for the record I always use extended mag and AP mods on my Particle Rifle, also Incendiary is always my first choice of ammo powers to pair with it, and in case it wasn't clear already, Destroyer specced for extra ammo capacity is where this gun really shines (the stagger immunity also making him that much better a match with the weapon).

I don't like the gun, so I must not know how to use it. I assumed you just aim and shoot, so what trick am I missing?

[kicsimalac]

kitty209 wrote...

if this discussion will somehow make the gun get nerfed, everyone get tossed out of the airlock, now let this thing sink and dissapear.

It won't end up being nerfed, I hope. No reasons for BioWare to nerf it. Barely anyone uses it

[WaffleCrab]

My first part of the particle rifle tutorial is up, it is more of a short look at basics and the next part will be going more indepth towards the builds you should use with the gun, Topic can be found Here

[Poulpor]

why you carry 2 gun ? with particle rifle X only, you can switch devastator mode in 1,5 sec and you reload much much faster..

[WaffleCrab]

Poulpor wrote...

why you carry 2 gun ? with particle rifle X only, you can switch devastator mode in 1,5 sec and you reload much much faster..

well i will go back to that on part 2, but long story short. as my PPR is lv1. some situations call for a different gun, i strive to make my builds as versitile as i can, and sometimes it calls for an extra gun, also most of the time, i use PPR on builds that dont need to worry about the weight, or with extremely lightweight longer range backup.