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 If it's not too much trouble I've been wondering about a few things:

- You wrote Miranda in ME3, did you write any other characters or quests?

- When your assigned a character to write do you create their storyline from scratch or are you given an outline of what has to happen in the plot?

- Did you find it difficult to write a character who had been established in a previous game?  

- Any chance of seeing DLC with the ME2 squadmates in the future?

Thanks for your consideration.

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 16 août 2012 - 05:22 .


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In regards to Miranda--

Why is she so... Different from her ME2 incarnation? She loses almost all of the sharpness that she expressed in the 2nd game.

Was there really no better reason for her not joining Shepard other than "I need to do this on my own"? Who in the hell even says that? Did you forget that Shepard (All Shepards, in fact) has Liara aboard the Normandy at this time and can thus assist her in finding Oriana (even faster than simply having Miranda search herself)? Perfect squadmate opportunity.

Why does she die if you break up with her, and why is she the only character in the game to whom this applies?

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>implying Jay Watamaniuk reads this forum

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Well it's worth a shot.

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Here's my question: Did Miranda use Alliance resources to "restart" her nameless organization full of ex-cerberus operatives? And thus why she didn't want to tell Shepard this because he'd think she was still thinking Cerberus Ideals?

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I like the ignoring policy bioware uses when people ask about things they screwed.

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Skullheart wrote...

I like the ignoring policy bioware uses when people ask about things they screwed.


But everybody has different opinions about what's screwed and what is not. Not everybody romanced Miranda. Not everybody romanced Jacob.
If a bioware employee were to answer in a thread like this, it would cause a lot of distress among other people and quite probably he or she would be lynched here too by a bombardment of follow-up questions.

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They should answer questions at some point. Turtleing up and remaining silent; ignoring things isn't going to work. Answering questions and such can start the road to repairing what was lost.

Having an 'interview' with your comunity manager that features none of the questions any one actually had does not count.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

They should answer questions at some point. Turtleing up and remaining silent; ignoring things isn't going to work. Answering questions and such can start the road to repairing what was lost.

Having an 'interview' with your comunity manager that features none of the questions any one actually had does not count.


But more than likely they will get bombarded with snarky comments and be put in a defensive position as has been shown on many occassions on the BSN. Let's be real about this. People just want them to come on so that they can complain to someone and feel like their opinion was heard by someone at the company or to argue in circles until Bioware capitulates to their wishes.

Jay is not obligated to come on this board and represent Bioware and repair "what was lost."

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LIterally the second post in this thread is a criticism. Why would anyone want to step into a thread like that?

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krukow wrote...

LIterally the second post in this thread is a criticism. Why would anyone want to step into a thread like that?


Because if you don't look at criticism, you don't stand to learn or gain anything for the next time you make something? Literally everyone who has ever produced anything, ever, has faced criticism.

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o Ventus wrote...

krukow wrote...

LIterally the second post in this thread is a criticism. Why would anyone want to step into a thread like that?


Because if you don't look at criticism, you don't stand to learn or gain anything for the next time you make something? Literally everyone who has ever produced anything, ever, has faced criticism.

Yeah, from critics and peers.  Why would they want to step into a fanboy forum and just get ripped?

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krukow wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

krukow wrote...

LIterally the second post in this thread is a criticism. Why would anyone want to step into a thread like that?


Because if you don't look at criticism, you don't stand to learn or gain anything for the next time you make something? Literally everyone who has ever produced anything, ever, has faced criticism.

Yeah, from critics and peers.  Why would they want to step into a fanboy forum and just get ripped?


Fanboys don't "rip".

Also, if you aren't getting an opinion from the masses, then you're doing it wrong. If people were only looking for feedback from their peers, there would be no public screenings of films.

Modifié par o Ventus, 16 août 2012 - 09:30 .


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o Ventus wrote...

Fanboys don't "rip".

Also, if you aren't getting an opinion from the masses, then you're doing it wrong. If people were only looking for feedback from their peers, there would be no public screenings of films.

Agree to disagree on the bold.

And they got feedback from the masses.  They gather data all the time.  

Why would one solitary writer want to come into a thread just so you can throw a ton of questions his way complaining about everything you didn't like?  Why would anyone want to do that?  Would you go into a thread where fanboys just ripped you for whatever you do for a living?

You didn't like Miranda's part in the game.  They get it. 

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krukow wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Fanboys don't "rip".

Also, if you aren't getting an opinion from the masses, then you're doing it wrong. If people were only looking for feedback from their peers, there would be no public screenings of films.

Agree to disagree on the bold.

And they got feedback from the masses.  They gather data all the time.  

Why would one solitary writer want to come into a thread just so you can throw a ton of questions his way complaining about everything you didn't like?  Why would anyone want to do that?  Would you go into a thread where fanboys just ripped you for whatever you do for a living?

You didn't like Miranda's part in the game.  They get it. 


Have you ever been to a films restoration screening?

People complain if the color isn't right. Nothing that has been asked here can top anal film people.

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krukow wrote...

Agree to disagree on the bold.

And they got feedback from the masses.  They gather data all the time.  

Why would one solitary writer want to come into a thread just so you can throw a ton of questions his way complaining about everything you didn't like?  Why would anyone want to do that?  Would you go into a thread where fanboys just ripped you for whatever you do for a living?

You didn't like Miranda's part in the game.  They get it. 


Not all negative feedback is "ripping"? If it is evident that somebody took preexisting material and malformed it (To a point where even people who aren't fans of Miranda are taking notice), you don't think people have the right to say anything about it? Just because he wrote something in a high-budget production doesn't make him exempt from all negative critique.

And no, fanboys don't "rip". I would name a few people who are examples of fanboys, but I think that's against site rules.

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It's not just Miranda. It's Ash, too. When you have reasonable, thoughtful people snarking "Wait, she had a writer?" or complaining about a lack of content despite her role having the same size as Kaidan's, there's a problem. He needs to improve his female characters.

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o Ventus wrote...
Not all negative feedback is "ripping"? If it is evident that somebody took preexisting material and malformed it (To a point where even people who aren't fans of Miranda are taking notice), you don't think people have the right to say anything about it? Just because he wrote something in a high-budget production doesn't make him exempt from all negative critique.

And no, fanboys don't "rip". I would name a few people who are examples of fanboys, but I think that's against site rules.

Quit with the hyperbole.  He's not exempt from all negative critique.  I'm simply saying he shouldn't have to come into a fanboy forum and get ripped and picked apart for every little thing.  Want an example? Okay:

o Ventus wrote...
Was there really no better reason for her not joining Shepard other than "I need to do this on my own"? Who in the hell even says that?


Lots of people say that in movies.  People even say that in real life.  Sometimes people feel they have a responsibility to take care of something themselves, that it's their responsibility to take care of.  Point being, that line is perfectly fine.  You're literally criticizing his syntax, when his syntax is perfectly acceptable.


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krukow wrote...

Lots of people say that in movies.  People even say that in real life.  Sometimes people feel they have a responsibility to take care of something themselves, that it's their responsibility to take care of.  Point being, that line is perfectly fine.  You're literally criticizing his syntax, when his syntax is perfectly acceptable.


I'm not sure how many movies you've seen, but I have seen script drafts rewritten (I've even been criticized myself, by my English teacher, for writing a character who says that phrase) because of that phrase, and similar figures of speech. I have rarely (stressing the rarely) ever seen a movie in which somebody says something like that. Not even the overly emotional teen dramas. Likewise, I have never, ever, ever heard that in real life. I don't know about anyone else, but the people I interact with IRL tend not to act like JRPG characters.

And I don't really care if somebody feels "responsible" to do something alone when assistance can be given. I'm well within my rights (and will exercise those rights) to say something about it, and if need be, point out how illogical or stupid it is.

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o Ventus wrote...

krukow wrote...

Lots of people say that in movies.  People even say that in real life.  Sometimes people feel they have a responsibility to take care of something themselves, that it's their responsibility to take care of.  Point being, that line is perfectly fine.  You're literally criticizing his syntax, when his syntax is perfectly acceptable.


I'm not sure how many movies you've seen, but I have seen script drafts rewritten (I've even been criticized myself, by my English teacher, for writing a character who says that phrase) because of that phrase, and similar figures of speech. I have rarely (stressing the rarely) ever seen a movie in which somebody says something like that. Not even the overly emotional teen dramas. Likewise, I have never, ever, ever heard that in real life. I don't know about anyone else, but the people I interact with IRL tend not to act like JRPG characters.

And I don't really care if somebody feels "responsible" to do something alone when assistance can be given. I'm well within my rights (and will exercise those rights) to say something about it, and if need be, point out how illogical or stupid it is.

What scripts have you seen rewritten?
Why do I care what your english teacher thinks?
If something is said in a movie rarely, it's bad?
So everyone talks like your friends, or only people who talk like your friends talk acceptably?
Your personal literary opinions are now fact?

"Renee, I need to do this on my own."
Jack Bauer

And I'm sure you'll criticize 24 now, but it too was awesome.

Modifié par krukow, 16 août 2012 - 10:25 .


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krukow wrote...

What scripts have you seen rewritten?
Why do I care what your english teacher thinks?
If something is said in a movie rarely, it's bad?
So everyone talks like your friends, or only people who talk like your friends talk acceptably?
Your personal literary opinions are now fact?

"Renee, I need to do this on my own."
Jack Bauer

And I'm sure you'll criticize 24 now, but it too was awesome.


Strawman?
Strawman?
Strawman?
Strawman?
Strawman?

I'm sorry, but when are you going to present an actual argument? All you're doing now is getting pissy.

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o Ventus wrote...

krukow wrote...

What scripts have you seen rewritten?
Why do I care what your english teacher thinks?
If something is said in a movie rarely, it's bad?
So everyone talks like your friends, or only people who talk like your friends talk acceptably?
Your personal literary opinions are now fact?

"Renee, I need to do this on my own."
Jack Bauer

And I'm sure you'll criticize 24 now, but it too was awesome.


Strawman?
Strawman?
Strawman?
Strawman?
Strawman?

I'm sorry, but when are you going to present an actual argument? All you're doing now is getting pissy.

I edited my post to bold the parts of yours I was asking about.  You make a ton of unsubstantiated claims, I was trying to get you to provide specifics.  Anyone can say something.  WHAT scripts have you seen changed?  Who is your english teacher that her opinion of that line matters?  Etc.

Modifié par krukow, 16 août 2012 - 10:27 .


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krukow wrote...

I edited my post to bold the parts of yours I was asking about.  You make a ton of unsubstantiated claims, I was trying to get you to provide specifics.  Anyone can say something.  WHAT scripts have you seen changed?  Who is your english teacher that her opinion of that line matters?  Etc.


Not that any of my English teachers are particularly famous, but seeing how they're legally qualified to teach the subject, it's not a total leap in logic to think that they have an idea of what they're talking about. Unless you're saying that you need to be widely known for your opinion to "matter", which is the implication I took from that.

In hindsight, I should have been more clear when in reference to the scripts. Not entire scripts, that would absurd, but segments. You know Twilight (I don't know why I ask that, everyody does)? That's one of them (the movie adaptation, I mean, I have no idea about the book transcripts). I don't own the script itself or I would take a picture and upload it to photobucket and actually "show" you.

... I now feel slightly immasculated for mentioning Twilight.

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Hum.........Having an argument on the first page isn't very welcoming

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My point is that it's an opinion. The line doesn't violate any rules of grammar, so your english teacher is marking you down simply because (s)he doesn't like it. You can think the line's bad, and a lot of people can agree, but some people like it/would use it/would say it. Getting back on point, you're literally attacking his syntax, and that's just an opinion thing. It's a total nitpick.

And let's not pretend whoever wrote the script to Twilight did a good job ;)