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[Eudaimonium]

Hello people,

I have a rather strange question to ask, which is,
Assume you go for completetionist playthrough of ME1, do all sidequests possible (essentially emptying the Journal), then import same character to ME1 again and do a speedrun of main plot only.

Then, assume you import that last save into ME2 - Does the completion of the side quests through first playthrough still count and get aknowledged regarding ME2?

I know, I know! Under any normal circuimstances, this would be a retarded question as you obviously didn't complete the quests in the playthrough you imported, but I could swear that, that one time, I had Helena Blake's quest completed only on first playthrough, and on second I skipped it, and she STILL appeared in ME2 in one of Afterlife's rooms thanking me for taking care of the quest, even though I technically did not.

After 15 playthroughs, side quests and driving around get only a little bit boring so I'd like to skip over that on my 16th playthrough, where I'd like to import a level 53 character, with which I completed 100% of the game. Question is, would simply skimming through main plot (with goal of reaching level 60) and then importing it into ME2, still be the same as doing yet another 100% completetionist run?

Any experiences, throughts? Perhaps input from devs regarding this, since I did search the forums and found no similar questions asked?

[PsiFive]

You'll be lucky finding a dev round here, but AIUI the answer is sort of.

Every time you beat the Saren Husk the game creates a career save. So play once = 1 career save, then play NG+ = 2 career saves. If you then click resume after having just finished the game again and beat the Saren Husk once more you'll have three career saves .... all for the same character. When you've resumed you're playing the game again from almost completion and will get an exact 'clone' of the character, but when you play NG+ you'll probably do some things differently.

So you can have e.g. Level 50 (because it's capped) Soldier called John Shepard from playthrough 1 who persuaded Helena Blake to give up her life of crime and then a Level 55 Soldier also called John Shepard and looking exactly like the first one who shot Blake on the way through a speed play of the game. And since the ME2 importer utility just gets everything in the ME1 Save folder you'll have imported both of them. If you're just looking for the name of your ME1 Shepard rather than also the level you may have played the lower level one who saved Blake instead of the second playthrough one who didn't. I've played the wrong character myself before so I know it's not hard to do, and I can't think of any other reason why Blake would be on Omega when you thought she was dead.

As to your main question, sadly the answer is no. If you use a level 53 character who'd played 100% of the game to level up to 60 by playing 50% of the game then as far as ME2 is concerned your level 60 import will have played 50% of ME1.

That's the bad news. The good news (kind of) is that in reality you'll probably find you need to play almost all of the game anyway to get from level 53 to level 60. To get to 53 is 302,000 xp, and to get to 60 is - wait for it - 862,000 xp. So you're 560,000 or so short of level 60 and IMO you may as well play the whole lot. Or if you're on PC cheat and give yourself half a million points via the console. :-D

Edit: just occurred to me that you might be screaming slightly at the thought of having to get nearly twice as many points in one playthrough as your character already has after a completionist playthrough. Don't panic, it's possible to get from 50 to 60 in one go so you're well on the way. But you might want to read the wiki about maximising experience gain. 

http://masseffect.wi...zing_Experience

There are also some infinite XP glitches you can use which are detailed in the section below that one. Personally I find them less fun and nearly as time consuming as simply playing the game.

Modifié par PsiFive, 17 août 2012 - 07:13 .

[Eudaimonium]

I see, so you are saying that, if you do quest differently, that gets recorded, but if you ignore it, it gets carried over from previous playthrough?

Example, you solved Helena Blake's uest in first, but completely ignored her (more like, avoided like plague) in second playthrough - since no change is made regarding plot flags, they simply get carried over from first playthrough and as such, imported into ME2 as "completed in this and this way"?

Oh and, no cheating is out of the question for me. I am not kidding about finishing the game sixteen times, that's not a poetic hyperbole.
What I meant to say is, just go through the game enough to reach level 60 - ignore other sidequests once reached and acquired best weaponry and all.

So I have my level 53 character (which for some reason ended up level 53 in ONE playthrough, seriously, I went with standard New Game), and now I'll import that back to beginning of ME1, and just speedrun through the game, and I will let you know if sidequests do get carried over. I sincerely hope that they do.

Not right now though, now I'm through the ME2 playthrough with some heavy modifications I made myself in coalesced. I'll be releasing it so everybody can try out, and just leave it at that so not stray off topic.

Fun fact of the day, maximum XP one can get in ME2 is 29.000, as opposed to 862.000

Thank you for your reply man!

[PsiFive]

Eudaimonium wrote...

I see, so you are saying that, if you do quest differently, that gets recorded, but if you ignore it, it gets carried over from previous playthrough?

Example, you solved Helena Blake's uest in first, but completely ignored her (more like, avoided like plague) in second playthrough - since no change is made regarding plot flags, they simply get carried over from first playthrough and as such, imported into ME2 as "completed in this and this way"?

Not quite. They're both carried over in two distinct and separate saves, and by default ME2 will import them both and let you play either. Since both characters will have the same name, class, background and military history and face it's easy to end up not playing the one you think you're playing. In your case the distinguishing mark between the two should be the level, as is probably the norm with second saves made by means of playing a NG+. 

Example, in my BioWare/Mass Effect/Save folder are these two files:

Char_01-50-2-1-0-19-2-2012-82-58.MassEffectSave
Char_01-59-2-1-0-23-2-2012-122-25.MassEffectSave

Both these are Soldiers called Jane Shepard with the same service and personal records, and with identical (in fact default) faces. But as the second number shows the first, which was my first playthrough, levelled up to 50 while the second was a level 59 (I missed 60 by about 80 thousand points). That's how I tell them apart, and since there are different story details - romance, how Conrad Verner was dealt with, resolution of several sidequests - I've played them both in ME2. Effectively they are separate games, it's just that one game is started with a character on Level 1 with grotty, basic gear, while the other was started with a character with a pile of spangly stuff in the inventory and already pretty tough ability wise due to being level 50 at the beginning on Eden Prime.

Eudaimonium wrote...

So I have my level 53 character (which for some reason ended up level 53 in ONE playthrough, seriously, I went with standard New Game), and now I'll import that back to beginning of ME1, and just speedrun through the game, and I will let you know if sidequests do get carried over. I sincerely hope that they do.

Okay, putting it another way, sidequests that you did in your level 53 chracter will carry over to ME2 if you import and play that character in ME2. Your intended level 60 character will share a great deal with the level 53 character but it will not be the same Shepard and the only sidequests that will carry over will be ones that that Shepard does.

Example using the above files. Suppose Char_01-50... does the Nassana Dantius quest while Char_01-59... skips it and ignores the message asking to meet in the bar on the Presidium. When playing Char_01-50... in ME2 Shepard will recognise Dantius' name when on Ilium and Dantius herself will refer to the meeting and that side mission, but when playing Char_01-59... Shepard will get to Ilium and not may recognise the name and nor will Dantius refer to her past history with Shepard as for that character - or that version of that character if you prefer to think of it that way - she doesn't have a history..

[Eudaimonium]

Ah, I think you misunderstood, sorry,

I do not get my save files confused - I import, your example, 01-59 save (in which, hypothetically I did not do X sidequest), but I did it in 01-50 (which I did not import into ME2, just into ME1 again), and it still carries over the second ME1 playthrough AND into ME2, carrying the results of that quest.

In your case, importing 01-59 and STILL having Nasanna recognise you. That's essentially what happened to me on that one playthrough. Weird, huh?