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[Cerah]

Now, as far as American accents not working in fantasy - I disagree with that completely!
Everyone's accent changes; British people did not sound like they would have 500 years ago, I can pretty much assure you of that. We actually develop out accents on with who we were primarily around when we where children. And then you have to combine people moving around (thus gaining a "twang" to their voice), and a person's manner of speech.
I really liked how they gave City Elves American accents, showing "absence" of an accent (I'm from the Midwest, and apparently in comparison, we have a "lack" of an accent... that's just what I've heard, ahaha)

Anyways, Sebastian sounds freaking amazing. >> The dude could babble on about Andraste for all I care, I'll just sit there and listen to his voice. :'D
As for Irish accents, if Liam Neeson was in it, I'd be incredibly happy. XD

[Lintanis]

If it means getting top voice actors any accent be fine  
and this makes interesting reading big well done to who ever made the very long list of va's 

http://dragonage.wik..._(voice_actors) 

[TheShadowWolf911]

if by human you mean a irish accented fire magic using Elf with dark skin and fire red hair, then yes.

[Feanor_II]

As a non english speaker I can´t get all those accents and can't identify them...... that's sad

[nightscrawl]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Dragon Age is built to use accents to tell you quite a bit about where someone is from. It's unfortunate they were unable to complete their original plan to give all the dwarves German accents. Imagine Bhelen voiced by Jurgen Prochnow.

Irish is already taken.

Oh. My. God. I love you for this.

I wish I could combine the two versions of Dune to have Jurgen Prochnow (David Lynch's Dune) play Leto and Alec Newman (Syfy's Dune miniseries) play Paul.

All in all, I'd have to say that the Scots have my favorite accent. I could listen to Alan Cumming reading the dictionary and be happy. Needless to say, I was quite pleased to hear Sebastian, since I know his VA (Alec Newman, also as Seneschal Bran) is actually Scottish.


Uh.. anyway back to the topic at hand. We've seen that the devs don't really have a issue with (1) retconning accents in general, like Merrill's clan from DAO to DA2; or (2) having certain persons as exceptions to the accent "rules" (Bodahn). So I don't think that it's out of the realm of possibility for a human to have an Irish accent.

I'm glad they didn't have the dwarves with Germanic accents though. I'd think that that would be reserved for people like the Anders. If we ever get on to Weisshaupt Fortress, I fully expect to hear those NPCs with Germanic accents.

We must remember that even if the devs have a sort of pattern in mind when making characters, that, like in real life, accents are fluid. You have non-native speakers that can come to a new place as youths and keep their accent their entire lives. Others can come to lessen their accent over time by developing the speech habits of those around them. Others get so used to speaking and thinking in the language of their new home that they develop a new accent when they switch back to their native tongue. There is also a type of unique accent that develops when people grow up around multiple languages (I observed this growing up in Miami with many young Hispanics who grew up speaking both English and Spanish). It's all very individual.

Feanor_II wrote...

As a non english speaker I can´t get all those accents and can't identify them...... that's sad

Look at it this way, I'm sure there are various accents in your native language as well that we have no clue about. And you get points for even knowing more than one language .

Modifié par nightscrawl, 21 août 2012 - 03:11 .

[DatIrishFella]

If anyone here played The Witcher 2, some of the guards in Henselt's camp had Irish accents, and not the OTT, stereotypical Irish accent.

They had really common Dublin accents, I couldn't believe it when I heard it, they sounded like the aul fellas down my local pub, lol.

Awesome.

[Schlochtenberg]

I am a non native english speaker too and I also dont get most of the different accents.
I mean, I can identify when someone speaks english with a heavy foreign french, italian or german (my native language) accent. But most of the time I cant tell if an accent comes from some part of britain, america, africa or australia or if its yet another foreign accent.
For me thats positive. It might be immersion breaking for an english speaker to hear irish or welsh elves, but for me they are just different people from different places and that shows in the way they speak.
And because I cant identify most of the accents I dont associate a real world place with them.

Modifié par Schlochtenberg, 21 août 2012 - 01:16 .

[DatIrishFella]

Schlochtenberg wrote...

I am a non native english speaker too and I also dont get most of the different accents.
I mean, I can identify when someone speaks english with a heavy foreign french, italian or german (my native language) accent. But most of the time I cant tell if an accent comes from some part of britain, america, africa or australia or if its yet another foreign accent.
For me thats positive. It might be immersion breaking for an english speaker to hear irish or welsh elves, but for me they are just different people from different places and that shows in the way they speak.
And because I cant identify most of the accents I dont associate a real world place with them.

Irelands' not in Britain, but I get your point. 

[Dragon_Effect 15511]

randomcheeses wrote...

No. Never. Because after hearing the supposed 'Irish' accents they used for the Dalish in DA2 I just could not take them seriously. Actors trying to imitate an Irish accent almost always overdo it horribly, and it would ruin my immersion to have to spend a whole game listening to that rubbish.

The acents were Welsh. Not Irish. Just puting that out there. Merrill's Voice actor was Welsh.


Edit:Already adressed nevermind. 

Modifié par Dragon_Effect 15511, 21 août 2012 - 04:47 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

I grew up partially in Ireland, and i think the accent is brilliant for a fantasy game. Well there are many Irish accents but the Dublin accent would suit the best for a character with a good sense of humor. I have the same accent as Sebastian.

I am Irish and I don't want a Dublin accent in any game ever.

Also the majority of the Dalish elves in DA2 had Irish accents apart from Merril and one or two others who had Welsh accents.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 21 août 2012 - 07:11 .

[DatIrishFella]

DinoSteve wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

I grew up partially in Ireland, and i think the accent is brilliant for a fantasy game. Well there are many Irish accents but the Dublin accent would suit the best for a character with a good sense of humor. I have the same accent as Sebastian.

I am Irish and I don't want a Dublin accent in any game ever.

Also the majority of the Dalish elves in DA2 had Irish accents apart from Merril and one or two others who had Welsh accents.

Must be a cluchie. 

[Arthur Cousland]

As long as the game has a dwarven companion with a Scottish accent, I don't care about the rest.

[Chiramu]

I'd rather have a French sounding character myself .

[Chiramu]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

As long as the game has a dwarven companion with a Scottish accent, I don't care about the rest.

That's so racist.

Dwarves could just have a regional accent, like from the North or the West.

[Rawgrim]

Norwegian accent.

[Welsh Inferno]

As long as its not a stereotypical, heavy drinking, kinda crazy irish sounding guy then sure.

[sparkyo42]

DatIrishFella wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

I grew up partially in Ireland, and i think the accent is brilliant for a fantasy game. Well there are many Irish accents but the Dublin accent would suit the best for a character with a good sense of humor. I have the same accent as Sebastian.

I am Irish and I don't want a Dublin accent in any game ever.

Also the majority of the Dalish elves in DA2 had Irish accents apart from Merril and one or two others who had Welsh accents.

Must be a cluchie. 

I'm a proud member of the People's Republic of Cork and I wouldn't want a Dub Accent in a game either.

Modifié par sparkyo42, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:52 .

[Renmiri1]

Rawgrim wrote...

Norwegian accent.

Maker no!

Skyrim got me burned out on Nordic accents 

[Orian Tabris]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

'Irish' accents they used for the Dalish

I definitely remember Dalish with welsh accents...

Was there a mix of the two? It's been ages since i played, i honestly can't remember... But there were definitely welsh accents in there.

There were NO Irish accents. As of Dragon Age 2, the Dalish elves all have Welsh accents (including Mahariel, though were yet to see or hear our Warden/s - it is assumed).

And I don't think any Dalish voice actor "imitated" the accents. Merrill, for example, was played by Eve Myles, a Welsh actor best known for playing Gwen Cooper in Torchwood (a Doctor Who spin-off). People should get their facts straight, before they start making fun of others.
<_<

Edit: Actually, just checking now, it was a mix between Irish and Welsh. My guess is they couldn't get entirely Welsh VAs so they decided to combine them with Irish.

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 04 septembre 2012 - 04:09 .

[jbrand2002uk]

Eire Icon wrote...

Yes, but............. and this is a big but, if he ever says "Top of the morning to you" that game will be dead to me

Awhhhh I was hoping for some "You little Tinker" and also "Tirrrrrty Tree and a Turd"

[Arthur Cousland]

Chiramu wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

As long as the game has a dwarven companion with a Scottish accent, I don't care about the rest.

That's so racist.

Dwarves could just have a regional accent, like from the North or the West.

Racist?  I like the accent is all that I meant, and I like dwarves who have them.  In general, I like dwarves with any kind of accent.

[Withidread]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

'Irish' accents they used for the Dalish

I definitely remember Dalish with welsh accents...

Was there a mix of the two? It's been ages since i played, i honestly can't remember... But there were definitely welsh accents in there.

There were NO Irish accents. As of Dragon Age 2, the Dalish elves all have Welsh accents (including Mahariel, though were yet to see or hear our Warden/s - it is assumed).

And I don't think any Dalish voice actor "imitated" the accents. Merrill, for example, was played by Eve Myles, a Welsh actor best known for playing Gwen Cooper in Torchwood (a Doctor Who spin-off). People should get their facts straight, before they start making fun of others.
<_<

Edit: Actually, just checking now, it was a mix between Irish and Welsh. My guess is they couldn't get entirely Welsh VAs so they decided to combine them with Irish.

I think it was David Gaider, who mentioned at one point, that there simply weren't enough voice actors of one accent or the other (Irish or Welsh) to fill the Dalish roles, and that's why a mix was used. It has also been said several times that they use voice actors with native accents whenever possible.

I wouldn't mind an Irish accented protagonist, but, in keeping with lore, it would have to be a Dalish protagonist. (Which would suit me fine as I'd like to get my elven protagonist back)

[Das Tentakel]

Withidread wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

'Irish' accents they used for the Dalish

I definitely remember Dalish with welsh accents...

Was there a mix of the two? It's been ages since i played, i honestly can't remember... But there were definitely welsh accents in there.

There were NO Irish accents. As of Dragon Age 2, the Dalish elves all have Welsh accents (including Mahariel, though were yet to see or hear our Warden/s - it is assumed).

And I don't think any Dalish voice actor "imitated" the accents. Merrill, for example, was played by Eve Myles, a Welsh actor best known for playing Gwen Cooper in Torchwood (a Doctor Who spin-off). People should get their facts straight, before they start making fun of others.
<_<

Edit: Actually, just checking now, it was a mix between Irish and Welsh. My guess is they couldn't get entirely Welsh VAs so they decided to combine them with Irish.

I think it was David Gaider, who mentioned at one point, that there simply weren't enough voice actors of one accent or the other (Irish or Welsh) to fill the Dalish roles, and that's why a mix was used. It has also been said several times that they use voice actors with native accents whenever possible.

I wouldn't mind an Irish accented protagonist, but, in keeping with lore, it would have to be a Dalish protagonist. (Which would suit me fine as I'd like to get my elven protagonist back)

Not entirely sure, but it seems they use agencies that specialise in voice actors, in the context of, say, commercials. And to be precise, agencies that are active, or primarily active, in English-speaking countries. The demand for accents is pretty limited, and I assume that means a very limited number of available actors. Some of those actors, like Stephane Cornicard, have done voice work in multiple games. In short, the pool in which they fish is relatively small.

Widening that pool would require ‘fishing’ in the various national networks of actors, but that may be too much work, finding out whom to contact, whom to select etc. Even in France, where foreign language skills can be pretty abominable (they are almost as bad as native English speakers, but at least English has the excuse of being the No. 1 world language), there are probably tens of thousands, if not more, people who would be perfect. But how to find them? And that’s just the first problem I imagine.

To be honest, I wonder if the whole accent thing wasn’t too much trouble, if finding enough native English speakers with genuine accents was already a bit too difficult.

Maybe they could hire German standup comedian Hape Kerkeling, he can probably do dozens of people at once, accents included.

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

But he won't come cheap...

[finalcabbage]

I freaking love accents in my video games and movies. Accents really help fantasy settings more than anything as they go a long way in creating immersion. There's something about every character sounding like they're from the American Midwest that has always bothered me. The only accents I would like to see avoided would be the American South.