Cole: an Analysis - *SPOILERS!*
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brushyourteeth
, août 16 2012 06:08
#76
Posté 22 août 2012 - 11:16
Yeah, as long as Cole doesn't compulsively feel like you need to die, there's absolutely no reason to be afraid of him!
#77
Posté 27 août 2012 - 10:22
Oh yeah, thanks for the Analysis brushyourteeth.
So Cole is some sort of Mystery yet to be uncovered?
So Cole is some sort of Mystery yet to be uncovered?
#78
Posté 28 août 2012 - 09:52
Cole is a character on the book Dragon Age Asunder, written by the Bioware guy in charge of DA plot. Speculation says he may be a companion in DA3
#79
Posté 29 août 2012 - 04:32
cJohnOne wrote...
Oh yeah, thanks for the Analysis brushyourteeth.
So Cole is some sort of Mystery yet to be uncovered?
Pretty much! He's some sort of spirit with a human's memories (maybe still tied to a human body?) that uses blood magic (like a demon would, not a *nice* Fade spirit - they generally find blood magic distasteful) but doesn't seem to be evil and actually displays affection and compassion. But still murders people.
Yeah, if you can piece that one together, you deserve an award. LOL!
**edit** and you're welcome! Glad I could help!!
Modifié par brushyourteeth, 29 août 2012 - 04:32 .
#80
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 02:51
maybe this cole is a manifestation of the new type of demon that Gaider mentioned, despair demon possibly
#81
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 06:17
gromashhellscream wrote...
maybe this cole is a manifestation of the new type of demon that Gaider mentioned, despair demon possibly
Well seen! I think it's quite possible, indeed. Cole is a murderer; a "good" spirit wouldn't do that, right?
About the "despair" part, that could explain why the victims of Cole were always of the same type : very despaired. XD
#82
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 07:27
He seems more like a Spirit of Mercy.
Spirits are not automatically good. They're just not automatically evil, like demons.
Spirits are not automatically good. They're just not automatically evil, like demons.
Modifié par Face of Evil, 17 juin 2013 - 07:28 .
#83
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 08:15
Mmmh I not sure really ...
Cole seems not very concerned by the others's sufferings during the book, yet he jumps on despaired people, weird.
I don't know, he could be a spirit of mercy but I think the "despair demon" explanation fits better.
I think that at the end of the book, "Cole" has an epiphany, he realise who he is then decide to not got back to Rhys, to stay away from him so he won't hurt him or be rejected by him. No need to run away if he's a benevolent spirit, no?
Cole seems not very concerned by the others's sufferings during the book, yet he jumps on despaired people, weird.
I don't know, he could be a spirit of mercy but I think the "despair demon" explanation fits better.
I think that at the end of the book, "Cole" has an epiphany, he realise who he is then decide to not got back to Rhys, to stay away from him so he won't hurt him or be rejected by him. No need to run away if he's a benevolent spirit, no?
Modifié par MWImexico, 17 juin 2013 - 08:21 .
#84
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 08:21
He's energized by "releasing" people from their suffering.
IMO, a despair demon would feed on peoples' misery. They'd prolong suffering, not end it.
IMO, a despair demon would feed on peoples' misery. They'd prolong suffering, not end it.
Modifié par Face of Evil, 17 juin 2013 - 08:22 .
#85
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 09:12
This is a good argument, so I'm confused now. Cole would be a spirit of mercy trapped in the material world that recharges his batteries by killing people? Well, it's possible in fact 
He would be like Justice-Anders who sometimes turns into vengeance ; it is Mercy without reason and pushed to the extrem.
Or something like that ...
He would be like Justice-Anders who sometimes turns into vengeance ; it is Mercy without reason and pushed to the extrem.
Or something like that ...
#86
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 09:36
You ever hear of mercy killings?
He takes power from fulfilling his function. The people he kills, there is no mercy except for death.
Actually, "mercy" might be wrong here. Anders mentions there is a Spirit of Compassion, though.
He takes power from fulfilling his function. The people he kills, there is no mercy except for death.
Actually, "mercy" might be wrong here. Anders mentions there is a Spirit of Compassion, though.
Modifié par Face of Evil, 17 juin 2013 - 09:38 .
#87
Posté 17 juin 2013 - 10:29
Ok, I understood, this is what you meant earlier
I'm tired and my english is bad so I could not express myself properly (but I wasn't trolling or anything, I do agree with you).
To come back on topic, I think that most of the time, Cole goes to far. He almost killed a girl who was hiding next to people who could rescue her. O_o
That's what I meant ealier, it's Mercy pushed to the extrem. Or is this "pure" mercy? Well, no matter what, this was not very smart since there were others ways.
To come back on topic, I think that most of the time, Cole goes to far. He almost killed a girl who was hiding next to people who could rescue her. O_o
That's what I meant ealier, it's Mercy pushed to the extrem. Or is this "pure" mercy? Well, no matter what, this was not very smart since there were others ways.
Modifié par MWImexico, 18 juin 2013 - 04:23 .
#88
Posté 18 juin 2013 - 09:51
I still haven't totally figured Cole but for the moment I will stick on the "spirit of compassion" theory.
I suppose that when a spirit comes to the material world, he can easily be disoriented. And it seems that what Cole fears the most is to disapear. Can he really use blood magic? Shouldn't he need a mage to do that (Rhys?) ? His mercy-kills seem odd, compulsives and not well thinked. Plus, he seems to gain power, so an advantage by doing so. Then now, how much close is Cole of being called a demon?
I was thinking of the way he give death to people, the way nobody remembers him after that. In a poetic way, if DA:I can be compared to the Biblic Apocalyspe, most certainly Cole could fit well in the role of the Horseman of Death (with Anders as War and Sebastian as the white one).
I suppose that when a spirit comes to the material world, he can easily be disoriented. And it seems that what Cole fears the most is to disapear. Can he really use blood magic? Shouldn't he need a mage to do that (Rhys?) ? His mercy-kills seem odd, compulsives and not well thinked. Plus, he seems to gain power, so an advantage by doing so. Then now, how much close is Cole of being called a demon?
I was thinking of the way he give death to people, the way nobody remembers him after that. In a poetic way, if DA:I can be compared to the Biblic Apocalyspe, most certainly Cole could fit well in the role of the Horseman of Death (with Anders as War and Sebastian as the white one).
#89
Posté 15 juillet 2013 - 03:28
I havnt read any of the books, but have read the above posts *Brain and eyes hurt* but I woul dhazard a guess that Cole died in the cell, but since he was praying a "Benevolent" spirit inhabited his body similar to Justice in Awkenings but Coles "Faith" perverted it somehow. by Benevolent I am saying not wholely evil bent on world domination, but a spirit of "Retribution" where as "Justice" is compelled to perform Justice, and then when he inhabits Anders is perverted into a spirit of Vengence, perhaps something similar happens to Cole, and he becomes a spirit of Retribution, killing those that did him wrong, or disbelieve in his existance..
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.





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