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[AnbuWolf]

Wouldn't this issue about Liara being romanced be solved if they include the option of weather or not Shepard romanced her in the original story line? That way if people did romance her with Shepard, she wouldn't be be available to romance but characters can still have a close friendship with her.

[christrek1982]

Revenant24 wrote...

MearasNZ wrote...

krukow wrote...

sure. There's a whole galaxy out there that we could play in, say 100 years later or something. Heck, we could even romance Liara again!

^^This.  Definitely this.  Could still romance Liara, even 500 years later!! 

If you could, it would cheapen the experience for people who romanced her as Shepard.

why? I'ts well within cannon 500 years later Shepard would be dead no matter how you look at it Liara would move on why cant it be with the new guy?

[sporeaddict101]

Yeah I'm not sure if they will make games in the future, after Shepard's sacrifice. It seems like they would have to make almost three different games because of the effect the endings had on the universe. If anything, I think they would make a game in Prothean times, Rachni wars, Krogan rebellions, something like that. I have no idea who the main character would be though....
Without Shepard, I don't know if it would be as strong.
If they keep up with the writing and teams they have now, then I would not be interested. I would have to watch reveiws and such, even before considering buying it.

[Han Shot First]

AnbuWolf wrote...

Wouldn't this issue about Liara being romanced be solved if they include the option of weather or not Shepard romanced her in the original story line? That way if people did romance her with Shepard, she wouldn't be be available to romance but characters can still have a close friendship with her.

If Liara returned in a cameo I'd rather it was when she was Samara's age, and with a similar approach to romance. "In another time...another life."

But I don't think her backstory should be that Shepard was her last lover, considering how long Asari lives are.

[Arlyon]

sporeaddict101 wrote...

Yeah I'm not sure if they will make games in the future, after Shepard's sacrifice. It seems like they would have to make almost three different games because of the effect the endings had on the universe. If anything, I think they would make a game in Prothean times, Rachni wars, Krogan rebellions, something like that. I have no idea who the main character would be though....
Without Shepard, I don't know if it would be as strong.
If they keep up with the writing and teams they have now, then I would not be interested. I would have to watch reveiws and such, even before considering buying it.

you are right about the change in the universe, but maybe the team is not wrong maybe it is just tired... they just need a break or maybe someone new with a different energy, maybe changing people from one team to another... but your are right the problem is the universe and the continuity.

[someone else]

Han Shot First wrote...
Think of it this way: If you died tommorow would you want your wife or girlfriend to spend the rest of her life alone?

...she wouldn't notice any change...

[hoodaticus]

Han Shot First wrote...

Yes.

Star Trek is a great example. Captain Kirk was just as iconic as Shepard, and few could have imagined the series without him. Then came The Next Generation and Captain Picard.

There is plenty of room in the Mass Effect universe for another hero.

The problem with this is that Picard objectively sucks @ss.

Let me put it this way: if Picard replaces Shepard, I'm going to kill an adorable bunny rabbit.

Modifié par hoodaticus, 17 août 2012 - 05:36 .

[sporeian]

Han Shot First wrote...

Think of it this way: If you died tommorow would you want your wife or girlfriend to spend the rest of her life alone?

I've never had a girlfriend..... *cries and runs away*

[NS Wizdum]

Shepard was never an important part of Mass Effect. He/she was merely a catalyst for our choices.

[Krimzie]

NS Wizdum wrote...

Shepard was never an important part of Mass Effect. He/she was merely a catalyst for our choices.

But by having that catalyst, we made a real character with a real personality (if not in 3, then at least in 1+2). So you're right, "Shepard" as an archetypal avatar is pretty meaningless in the scheme of the ME universe, but your particular Shepard constructed your game world and, if BioWare did it right, made you attached to a character you took part in creating.... right?

Then again, I'm all about the feels when it comes to ME. So I got uber attached to my Shepard.

Edit: typos everywhere.

Modifié par Krimzie, 17 août 2012 - 05:59 .

[Bergy_si]

It would be like Stargate SG1 without MacGyver just not worth of my time.

[NS Wizdum]

Krimzie wrote...

NS Wizdum wrote...

Shepard was never an important part of Mass Effect. He/she was merely a catalyst for our choices.

But by having that catalyst, we made a real character with a real personality (if not in 3, then at least in 1+2). So you're right, "Shepard" as an archetypal avatar is pretty meaningless in the scheme of the ME universe, but your particular Shepard constructed your game world and, if BioWare did it right, made you attached to a character you took part in creating.... right?

Then again, I'm all about the feels when it comes to ME. So I got uber attached to my Shepard.

Edit: typos everywhere.

I'm with you on the attatchment to the universe and the characters. I guess I misunderstood the question. Is the OP aksing if the universe would be the same if Shepard never existed? Because that would be a resounding no, due to no one thinking the Reapers were a legitimate threat.

If he/she's asking if another game can be created, now that Shepard is dead, I believe it could be done quite easily. Just give us a new character to develop.

If he/she's asking if the universe can continue now that Shepar is (potentially) dead, then I see no reason why not. The ME universe is quite developed, Shepard changed it, but is not responsible for it.

[N147]

Han Shot First wrote...

Revenant24 wrote...

MearasNZ wrote...

krukow wrote...

sure. There's a whole galaxy out there that we could play in, say 100 years later or something. Heck, we could even romance Liara again!

^^This.  Definitely this.  Could still romance Liara, even 500 years later!! 

If you could, it would cheapen the experience for people who romanced her as Shepard.

How so?

Liara is 109 years old in ME3 and will probably live to a 1000. She'll likely outlive Shepard by about 750 years or so. Given how much time she has left compared to the relatively short amount of time Shepard has in comparison, I think Liara is going to have other lovers throughout her very long life.

I'm not sure why that would be an issue however, as Shepard would be long dead. If Shepard cared about her he or she would want Liara to eventually find happiness, rather than sitting alone in some dark room for centuries, mourning a dead lover.

Think of it this way: If you died tommorow would you want your wife or girlfriend to spend the rest of her life alone?

Why would I care, I'm dead. But as the player, you're not, So yes, I do care.

[SackofCat]

I suppose they could make Liara's survival canon and team your character up with her and other characters who have some connection to Shepard's old squad. Everybody loves Liara, right?

[Nightwriter]

I have a hard time being interested in it without Shepard. Shepard was too much of a big deal and I can't imagine a protagonist who wouldn't feel like they were in his shadow.

I suppose they could do prequels. But that idea is just so bleh.

[ghost9191]

i think it would work but wouldn't be the same, in the end shepard is a character you shaped, your character . the ME story is shepards story. so it would be different. but considering they won't have a sequel unless they decide a canon ending or go with indoctrination , ME prequel would probably have nothing to do with shep, not even a reference , unless it has something to do with the one of 3 back story options, but even then that would be hard because is there canon for that?

i won't be as interested in it personally but can see how others will. i am not interested in a prequel at all, prefer to see how the universe would turn out , not how it was before this whole mess, and well if they don't mention shep in a sequel then f*ck them

Modifié par ghost9191, 17 août 2012 - 09:47 .

[GenericEnemy]

If they do make a new protagonist, I feel it would be best to make him/her fully customizable, as in being able to make him/her any species. I can't help but feel another human protagonist would feel like Shepard 2.0.

[Dunabar]

I rather see Shepard retire with his Love interest and let the way be paved by a new face, preferably one of a race of your own choosing.

Maybe Shepard could be like a contact that helps on the side, just doesn't get involved in all the fighting?

(My Shepard and Tali (if Shepard is alive via Destroy) deserve to settle back and be happy together.)

[Dean_the_Young]

Hrothdane wrote...

The main problems with a new protagonist are twofold:

1. The fanbase would REALLY riot if we could not create the character like we did with our Shepards, so the new protagonist cannot be an existing character. All of them already have established personalities, appearances, etc....

How is creating a new character a problem, when any sequel game would almost certainly involve some manner of time-skip past ME3?

2. This new protagonist would need a supporting cast equal to Shepard's. I'm not saying it cannot be done, but it would be even more difficult than making the original team because every new character would get compared to whichever old one resembles them in personality, role, and appearance the most. I don't even the person that gets stuck writing a replacement Garrus.

Garrus is a typical bro-character with an accent, who's popularity with the fanbase went up the less independent as an individual he became. Sidekick quipsters are hardly unique, or hard: just don't make the sin of making him human, and much will be forgiven.

As for the other characters, Shepard's supporting cast has always been a mix of tsunderes, barbarians with hearts of gold, and other cliches with varying levels of sycophancy.

The hardest one to 'recreate' would be Mordin, but you don't need to recreate Mordin... and Mordin's success was hardly 'just as planned' by the writers.

[Dean_the_Young]

Han Shot First wrote...

Revenant24 wrote...

MearasNZ wrote...

krukow wrote...

sure. There's a whole galaxy out there that we could play in, say 100 years later or something. Heck, we could even romance Liara again!

^^This.  Definitely this.  Could still romance Liara, even 500 years later!! 

If you could, it would cheapen the experience for people who romanced her as Shepard.

How so?

Liara is 109 years old in ME3 and will probably live to a 1000. She'll likely outlive Shepard by about 750 years or so. Given how much time she has left compared to the relatively short amount of time Shepard has in comparison, I think Liara is going to have other lovers throughout her very long life.

I'm not sure why that would be an issue however, as Shepard would be long dead. If Shepard cared about her he or she would want Liara to eventually find happiness, rather than sitting alone in some dark room for centuries, mourning a dead lover.

Think of it this way: If you died tommorow would you want your wife or girlfriend to spend the rest of her life alone?

Liara is space-waifu. Hers and Shepard's love is something beautiful, eternal, and so irreplacable that clearly for it to be genuine Liara must never move on and must always hold a noble, romantic sorrow for the lost love until they reunite in the afterlife.

Or else commit suicide shortly after Shepard's death, since that might take awhile.

[Demon560]

It probably can, but wouldn't be as epic, that said what about the antagonist cause i really don't see anything that could match up to sovereign or harbinger, even if the the ending did make them look like the confused following the idiotic(catalyst), they were epic in ME1 and 2.

[MysticSpace]

sporeian wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Yes it can. And removing Master Chief from Halo would not cause the universe to explode. In fact, it's already been done.

Because the $60 map pack known as ODST worked perfectly

ODST? Oh yeah, I was about to say Halo Wars but I forgot about Rookie and his adventure being six hours late to everything.

[MysticSpace]

No, IMO Mass Effect is Commander Shepard and her crew doing stuff. I don't care about the books and now I don't care about the anime. I don't want to see Vega's backstory or him fight the collectors that should've been in the game.

[clarkusdarkus]

we'll find out with ME4....it began as an RPG and ended as an action shooter, if anything i doubt we'll be able to create the protagonist in the next installment so i think we'll get a default character.......be weird tho as the amount of hours spent on mass effect and being shepard gets you attached to the character.

Modifié par clarkusdarkus, 17 août 2012 - 10:23 .

[robertthebard]

Han Shot First wrote...

AnbuWolf wrote...

Wouldn't this issue about Liara being romanced be solved if they include the option of weather or not Shepard romanced her in the original story line? That way if people did romance her with Shepard, she wouldn't be be available to romance but characters can still have a close friendship with her.

If Liara returned in a cameo I'd rather it was when she was Samara's age, and with a similar approach to romance. "In another time...another life."

But I don't think her backstory should be that Shepard was her last lover, considering how long Asari lives are.

Not to mention that this whole "Liara will never love anyone but Shepard" idea is debunked in ME 1.

The universe would do just fine w/out Shepard, depending on what's offered, and how well.  I keep looking, but no where does any title say Mass Effect:  Shepard is our God.