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[unicorndawn]

I want to play a second play though that is as different as possible from my first character but not a disagreeable character who I want to punch in the face.

The first time I was a female city elf rough who used dual weapon. I romanced alister the entire time. I know I will choose a new love interest and make opposite choices in the main plot, but any other suggestions on choices I should make and what you think would be the best new origin. I’d like to play female but I’m not opposed to playing a male if it opens up a good plot lone/love interest.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

As different as possible? Then you have to be male.

That said... female warrior, weapon and shield. Both the origins where a warrior starts with Weapon And Shield talents by default are nobles, so that means your character is from a completely different walk of life.

Or you could decide that "as different as possible" means a two handed weapon, or archery. (I gave my Dalish Elf talents from both trees, since I wanted a two handed warrior but also wanted to give him some archery talents just in case, A Dalish elf warrior starts with archery talents, no origin starts with two-handed ones. Rather an oversight, don't you think?)

Or you could play as a mage. Vastly different gameplay experience, let me tell you. Not to mention that while a City Elf is raised poor but with a loving family, the Human Mage is from the noble Amell line, gets taken due to his/her magic, and is brought up in what would be a comfortable experience if not for the often outrightly bigoted templars and priests. (On the other hand, the City Elf gets to deal with bigots too, just not as constantly. Still, even in this, there are differences: one, the anti-mage bigots before the game starts are held in check by the reasonably sane Greagoir and Irving, two: the mage doesn't have to deal with much bigotry during the game.)

As for romance, I imagine it'll probably be Zevran, which means you're romancing a City Elf rogue who uses dual weapons and looks female.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 17 août 2012 - 04:47 .

[tklivory]

Hmmm, a female Dwarf Noble warrior would be almost exactly the opposite. Noble vs second class citizen, warrior vs rogue, and dwarf vs elf. It also gives you some additional relationship angst at the beginning if you choose to pursue it.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

tklivory wrote...
It also gives you some additional relationship angst at the beginning if you choose to pursue it.

On the other hand, the City Elf Origin has that too...

[unicorndawn]

its realy intresting that you guys are suggesting warrior. I was prepared for everyone to say mage.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

unicorndawn wrote...

its realy intresting that you guys are suggesting warrior. I was prepared for everyone to say mage.

I feel like pointing out that I did say mage. It's the one I wrote the longest paragraph on.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 17 août 2012 - 05:06 .

[unicorndawn]

Then comes the questions of blood mage or not when the time to choose comes?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Well, if you've decided on mage (I would recommend you take a good look at all your options before deciding on class and origin, that's the main point to my long first post) then I would have to recommend being a Blood Mage. Shapechanger is bloody useless, Arcane Warrior lends itself to melee and thus is not as different from your dual wielding warrior as you would otherwise be (despite being overpowered) and while Spirit Healer is indispensible (Edit: in fact I would recommend it as your first spec) it only fills one spec slot.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 17 août 2012 - 05:20 .

[unicorndawn]

I am just bringing up points of consideration at this point before I commit 70+hours to it.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Oh, good. That's what I'm doing too.

Edit: 

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 17 août 2012 - 05:20 .

[Fiacre]

...If you haven't started yet, I'd say you need to decide if game play or story experience matters more. A mage -- if he isn't a sword carrying Arcane warrior (it is possible to use the spec and still use a staff, it still gives you some good defence spells) -- may have wildly different gameplay from your rogue, but a mage has also to deal with oppression and prejudice and whatever the human mage's heritage, he doesn't get treated as a noble. And while the Fereldan Circle isn't as horrible as the Kirkwall Circle, it's still no wonderful super comfortable place to live in.

If you want a completely different walk of life, I'd say male human noble warrior or a dwarf noble of either gender. Male HN mainly because it allows you to become the Prince/King-Consort and getting the teyrn of Gwaren boon actually makes sense. Ending up as one of the most important and powerful nobles in all of Ferelden second only to your wife is really quite different form a CE, even one who becomes Ferelden's hero.

Being male will also allow you to romance Morrigan. Zevran is very different from Alistair as well, though, so it's not that big of a deal. (I personally prefer Morrigan -- she is my favourite character and I adore her romance arc even more than I adore Zevran's -- but I don't know your opinions on the characters.)

[mousestalker]

Dwarf noble is pretty much different from every other origin. There's also quite a lot of good material in the starting bit, not to mention a whole new perspective on Orzammar when you return. The endings are different as well. When I played a dwarf noble, I romanced the heck out of Gorim in the beginning. That proved interesting later.

In terms of play (combat and such), the mage origin is different from what you played before. But the dialogue choices do not change much.

There are two significant endings possible if you play a human noble (one for male and one for female). That being said, the dwarves have the best possible endings, imo.

FWIW, my favourite origins are the city elf (female) and dwarf commoner. Rica is the bestest sister ever.

Modifié par mousestalker, 17 août 2012 - 01:42 .

[unicorndawn]

I seem to have narrowed it down to three options.

1- Male mage romancing morrigan
2- female dwarf noble warrior romancing zavren
3-male human noble warrior romancing Morrigan

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I find it's a better roleplaying experience to romance a character of a different class than I'm playing. My reason being that I tend to take two warriors, one rogue, and one mage (Edit: preferably a Spirit Healer) in the party at all times. So romancing a character of a different class means you never have to spend a second outside of hugging range of your LI. 

The problem is that my favorite class is rogue, and my favorite LI is Leiliana, so that doesn't help.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 17 août 2012 - 04:42 .

[tklivory]

 @ Riverdaleswhiteflash - Yeah, that would be a problem.  I love playing rogues myself, but it is true that too many rogues in the party can unbalance it.

@ Unicorndawn - Do you have a PC? You could try the Dalish Mage mod... And I would also recommend you think about your gaming style: if you like getting into the middle of the fight, weapons blazing, then I wouldn't recommend mage, because most of the time you have to rely on your tanks and attack/heal from afar (the arcane warrior specialization can offset that, but you can't get that until you unlock it).  If you're more into tactics and strategy, and don't mind playing general more than down'n'dirty fighter, then I'd recommend mage.  Just an added thought I had...

[Corker]

I two-rogue it all the time! Most of the time, actually.

Currently doing Awakening with three rogues (Warden, Sigurn and Nathaniel) and Oghren. So far, so good!

[BevH]

Rogue tank FTW!!!

IMO, the complete opposite of the CE origin would have to be one of the nobles - either human or dwarf. But beware, tanking can be hard at first... lots of death. It's why, in other games especially, I'm usually a mage or a priest/cleric.

[emeraldtrader]

I just started playing the DC female and the DN male. Oh wow is the game different! such a change of prospective can't wait to see how it plays out when they return home. both are rogues. I have completed female HN (rogue/warrior), M, CE(rogue)and DE.
I am also currently playing a male HN as a warrior (ack! i am a terrible warrior) The only problem with multiple games is remembering were i am in each story line! Hence note keeping.
what can i say, I have a short attention span.

[unicorndawn]

I personaly prefer two mages, one warrior, and one rogue.
And I have never tanked, I was worried a obout that a bit.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

emeraldtrader wrote...


 The only problem with multiple games is remembering were i am in each story line! Hence note keeping.
what can i say, I have a short attention span.

I do it one playthrough at a time. I find it's easier that way.

[Fiacre]

unicorndawn wrote...

I personaly prefer two mages, one warrior, and one rogue.
And I have never tanked, I was worried a obout that a bit.

You don't necessarily need to tank if you have someone else in your party who can do that for you (like Alistair or Shale), though that does mean that you'd have to kick out one of your mages or the rogue. Personally, I usually go with Morrigan, Leliana/Zevran and whoever I feel is appropriate/needed, though my canon playthrough actually had both rogues in my party for most of the game.

Depending on what difficulty level you play at and how good you are you might not even need a tank.

[Arthur Cousland]

Even while playing as a rogue, I still like to bring Leliana/Nathaniel along since they're an archer and that's one less person doing the "melee shuffle". One melee rogue can easily carry the offensive load for two rogues.

If you're the tank, that can make things easy as you just have to run ahead into the enemy crowd and let your companions follow. As a rogue, I usually have stealth up and will often tell Alistair to go ahead to distract the opposition. In the Korcari Wilds, I've found that's it's best to bounce hate because taunt=dead warrior. Things improve once you get to Lothering and have had time to make your warrior more durable. If you have Battledress of the Provocateur, definitely equip that until you come across better armor in heavy/massive armor variety.

My favorite Origins party usually has Alistair, Leliana and Wynne in it, while in Awakening, I usually have Oghren, Nathaniel and Anders, so often I have two rogues, two warriors or two mages depending on whatever my warden is. I just like traveling with certain companions regardless of their class.

[mousestalker]

It's a lot of fun to play with three rogues and one mage. One of the more fun play throughs I had was with three rangers and Morrigan. No tanks, no one actually lobbing spells.

Modifié par mousestalker, 17 août 2012 - 08:08 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

The only time I play with 3 rogues in the party is the Slim Couldry mission where he sends you after the Tears. The reason I do that is because that's the only mission I can think of where stealth really works as an alternative to fighting, rather than either a mission with no fighting at all or where killing is mandatory. (I kill all the guards anyway, but not before sneaking into the vault completely nonviolently just because I can.)

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 17 août 2012 - 11:49 .

[Shinobu]

How about HN (male or female)+ Zev or Leli?

As an aside I used to take 2 warriors and a mage with my rogue but on my second PT of Awakening tried a 3 rogue party with Anders as Arcane Warrior tank. Sigrun+Nate+Anders = ungodly amount of fun!