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[Jonata]

 
Film Crit Hulk writes some of the most illuminating, deep and compelling articles about movies. He's not only a very professional critic who never try to simply use sarcasm and harsh lines to gain popularity, but actually explain his reasons and he always has something extraordinary to say.

(He does all of this with the gimmick of the Hulk writing a deep cinema article so he use ALL-CAPS and the so-called "Hulk Speak", but believe me, it's worth it.)

Now, last week I posted here a thread to show you his thoughts about the ME3 endings. His article was deep and truly inspiring, and I actually found new ways to enjoy Mass Effect 3 and its endings reading it. Like always, however, the article generated a huge mess, and people started fighting, opposing/supporting him and even asking him for clarification about some of his statements.

Well, guys, he provided his own Extended Cut, explaining itself to all of you who commented on his article... I can assure that all the problems and arguments that were made in my thread are explained in this new article, so please take the time to read this one. Again, you won't regret it. 

You can find my original thread (with a link to the original article) here.

You can read the new article here:

Film Crit Hulk Smash: A Few More Words On The Column About The Endings Of MASS EFFECT 3

[Taboo]

The theme from Otto e Mezzo is playing in my head Jonata...

[D24O]

I still don't agree that it was a game about death rebirth and cycles, but from his point of view I can understand how it fit for him, and I'm glad he enjoyed them. And I'm glad this new article was more respectful, god knows we don't need any more hate.

[Ticonderoga117]

Jonata wrote...
Now, last week I posted here a thread to show you his thoughts about the ME3 endings. His article was deep and truly inspiring, and I actually found new ways to enjoy Mass Effect 3 and its endings reading it. Like always, however, the article generated a huge mess, and people started fighting, opposing/supporting him and even asking him for clarification about some of his statements.

"Thing's don't have to make sense." (paraphrased)

Oh yeah, that's REAL deep.
I think I'll pass on this person trying to make a crap ending seem "good" because it doesn't care about 95% of what came before, because that will ALWAYS be a horrible ending no matter how much perfume and nice clothes you cover it with.

[Cainne Chapel]

Ticonderoga is it hard to accept the fact that some liked the endings?

I didnt particularly care for the endings until the EC, which made them better for me, as I wanted more closure than an awesome ending, and the EC provided me with that mostly.

But is it hard to believe some did enjoy the game and enjoy the endings? There's nothing wrong with differing opinions because everyone has one. Some disliked ME1 and ME2 as well, doesnt stop me from enjoying them either

[SpamBot2000]

Hulk looks at Mass Effect like it's a movie. Hulk doesn't get it. And Hulk gets so enraged by people who didn't like ME3 that he fantasizes an oral rape on them, IN HIS FORCEFUL CAPS.

Gent bent, Hulk.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 17 août 2012 - 04:18 .

[Galbrant]

Sorry, I don't read articles in all caps, especially one written by a ugly green monster.

[Ticonderoga117]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Ticonderoga is it hard to accept the fact that some liked the endings?

I didnt particularly care for the endings until the EC, which made them better for me, as I wanted more closure than an awesome ending, and the EC provided me with that mostly.

But is it hard to believe some did enjoy the game and enjoy the endings? There's nothing wrong with differing opinions because everyone has one. Some disliked ME1 and ME2 as well, doesnt stop me from enjoying them either

Sure, some people can enjoy things that don't have to make sense or connect with 95% of the narrative.
I feel it's not what we, as gamers, want to shoot for, but sure, people can like it.
However, anyone who uses that excuse to say that the endings are good is NOT "deep" or "inspiring". It's more "BLAH BLAH BLAH I liked it and that's all that matters. BLAH BLAH BLAH You don't get it. BLAH."

[essarr71]

He's horrible.

[D24O]

Also, by his criteria that Art needs to have a message, a cerebral component that makes you think I'd say that other segments of the game do a much better job at that then the endings do.

[Jonata]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The theme from Otto e Mezzo is playing in my head Jonata...

I understand that Ferré & Rota's score is pretty catchy, but I'm sorry I can't see the connection being made here.

Is Film Crit HULK ******'s internet counterpart from your point of view?

[The Angry One]

Do we really need another topic about this?

Anyway, are we sure this isn't satire? You know, he's saying it takes a big, green, stupid monster like the Hulk to appreciate the "art"?

Modifié par The Angry One, 17 août 2012 - 04:32 .

[Taboo]

Jonata wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

The theme from Otto e Mezzo is playing in my head Jonata...

I understand that Ferré & Rota's score is pretty catchy, but I'm sorry I can't see the connection being made here.

Is Film Crit HULK ******'s internet counterpart from your point of view?

All I can think of is the end sequence with the music.



The whole thing has become a circus.

But not a Felliniesque circus, sadly. No big breasted women and cranky old men. 

[F4H bandicoot]

I can't take this guy seriously.

[Gemini1179]

These things always scream of a desperation to believe something is good instead of acknowledging the fact that ME3 was a rushed-out-the-door mess. If by serendipity, someone saw something in it they could find inspiration from, power to them- but it doesn't negate the fact that ME3 was a RUSHED-OUT-THE-DOOR mess.

Period.

Don't come to me asking how *I* know that it was *for sure* rushed out the door. That's deflecting. It's done so much on these forums it's funny. "I don't want to talk about DA2 being a bad game, I want to argue the factuality of the statement that poor sales mean it was a bad game!" - yes, I actually got drawn into that discussion and felt a little sad inside when I recognized what happened.

Sorry HULK, just cause your wife is cheating on you, doesn't mean you have to crusade against gay marriage.

[SpamBot2000]

The Angry One wrote...

Do we really need another topic about this?

Anyway, are we sure this isn't satire? You know, he's saying it takes a big, green, stupid monster like the Hulk to appreciate the "art"?

If it's satire, it's pretty subtly layered. My guess is it's just a blowhard bozo.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 17 août 2012 - 04:37 .

[AresKeith]

The Angry One wrote...

Do we really need another topic about this?

Anyway, are we sure this isn't satire? You know, he's saying it takes a big, green, stupid monster like the Hulk to appreciate the "art"?

"HULK Likes these stick pictures, HULK THINKS THIS IS TRUE ART" lol

[Jonata]

The Angry One wrote...

Do we really need another topic about this?

Anyway, are we sure this isn't satire? You know, he's saying it takes a big, green, stupid monster like the Hulk to appreciate the "art"?

Read the article before saying that. He actually states that what he's saying is honest and down-to-earth, he is NOT trying to troll or make some subtle satire piece.

[Hannah Montana]

I can't read it and I don't like him.
If he could say "Mass effect 3 review: Hulk is disappoint, the end"

I would rate it 5 stars.

[Meltemph]

He is being so "factual" abotu something that is clearly his opinion, that there really is only 2 ways I can think of him when I read his stuff. He either is a massive hipster who likes feeling like "he gets it" because art is hard or he is just trolling.

I mean, his entire last 2 coloumns were nothing short of for the most part, generalizations as to why he liked it. Essentially a "no it was beutiful you just cant grasp it", sort of thing", or the greatest responses, imo "I saw this was coming all along HONEST!".

Either way, his opinion on the game comes across as not very secure in his defense, which makes me assume he is trolling for the hits(which would explain 2 columns about the same issue, it must have done well the 1st time).

[SpamBot2000]

Just a down-to-earth dude, with a simple dream of a green monster phallus to molest the rabble who fail to appreciate the nobly pacific sentiment of Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 17 août 2012 - 04:51 .

[CronoDragoon]

Tried to read, hurt my eyes and stopped. Whether or not you agree with him, a gimmick like that is not the place for thoughtful posts.

[The Angry One]

Jonata wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Do we really need another topic about this?

Anyway, are we sure this isn't satire? You know, he's saying it takes a big, green, stupid monster like the Hulk to appreciate the "art"?

Read the article before saying that. He actually states that what he's saying is honest and down-to-earth, he is NOT trying to troll or make some subtle satire piece.

For the sake of argument, if one wanted to troll so obviously they would add such a disclaimer in order to throw people off.
Or he could just be an idiot, yes.

Hannah Montana wrote...

I can't read it and I don't like him.
If he could say "Mass effect 3 review: Hulk is disappoint, the end"

I would rate it 5 stars.

Nah it should go like this:

"Mass Effect 3 review, by Hulk.

HULK SMASH!!!!!"

Modifié par The Angry One, 17 août 2012 - 04:53 .

[CaptainZaysh]

The Angry One wrote...

Or he could just be an idiot, yes.

He's obviously not an idiot, Angry.  Disagreeing with you is not a sign of low intelligence, you know.