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Zan51 wrote...

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better yet should we have more cities on Earth instead on London


The key to it all is the Olympics.  It's code and we must figure it all out.  Vancouver, London, Rio (MP), but we are missing Sochi.  The key is Sochi.  I think some major event will take place there or not.  It might be just coincidence.


Thye last Winter Olympics were in Vancouver 2010.
The next Olympics are in Rio.
The 2014 Winter Olympics, officially the XXII Olympic Winter Games, in Sochi, Russia, with some events held in the resort town of Krasnaya Polyana.
5 rings in the Olympic symbol and they are Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Black.
5 continents they represent, "Africa, the Americas, Antarctica, Asia, Australia together with Oceania, and Europe
are considered to be Continents" from here - http://www.nationson.../continents.htm
5 Major races in ME3 - Asari, Human, Turian, Krogan, Salarian, then Quarians, Geth, Batarians, Hanar, Drell, Volus, Elcor, etc.

I see a pattern there... but others will need to take up the Torch as I dunno what more to do with it!


Bioware thinks there slick lol

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I was hoping that would happen from the start :/

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Eclipse merc wrote...

I was hoping that would happen from the start :/


we all did in this thread :crying:

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This is exactly what the Crucible should have done. No forced symbolism, no plot holes, and no contrivances, just an amazing ending where you're decisions result in victory or defeat with many different consequences.

Bioware wouldn't even necessarily need to add new gameplay (although they really should). They could simply cut the star child scene, and then after Shepard activates the Crucible multiple cutscenes that Bioware cut and paste together depending on your EMS and decisions would then play out. For example, did you save the Rachni and the Krogan? You see an awesome scene with a Krogan grabbing a marauder and headbutting it into a wall and then a Rachni soldier dissolves it in acid. If you don't have the Rachni you get a variant of that cutscene with just the Krogan. There would be multiple battle scenes like this, and then eventually it's made clear whether or not you can defeat the Reapers. If you defeat the Reapers, you would get something similar to the Hackett speech in the EC. If you fail, you get the Liara time capsule scene. Is there really anyone that wouldn't at the very least be content with this? It removes what many here hate about the endings (Catalyst, important choices such as saving or destroying the Rachni not being reflected in the final battle, contrived choices) and it adds what many people want. It frustrates me to no end how people say that nothing can appease us, when that simply is not true. It's just a tactic to dismiss those who have valid and reasonable problems with the endings and solutions for them.

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elitehunter34 wrote...

This is exactly what the Crucible should have done. No forced symbolism, no plot holes, and no contrivances, just an amazing ending where you're decisions result in victory or defeat with many different consequences.

Bioware wouldn't even necessarily need to add new gameplay (although they really should). They could simply cut the star child scene, and then after Shepard activates the Crucible multiple cutscenes that Bioware cut and paste together depending on your EMS and decisions would then play out. For example, did you save the Rachni and the Krogan? You see an awesome scene with a Krogan grabbing a marauder and headbutting it into a wall and then a Rachni soldier dissolves it in acid. If you don't have the Rachni you get a variant of that cutscene with just the Krogan. There would be multiple battle scenes like this, and then eventually it's made clear whether or not you can defeat the Reapers. If you defeat the Reapers, you would get something similar to the Hackett speech in the EC. If you fail, you get the Liara time capsule scene. Is there really anyone that wouldn't at the very least be content with this? It removes what many here hate about the endings (Catalyst, important choices such as saving or destroying the Rachni not being reflected in the final battle, contrived choices) and it adds what many people want. It frustrates me to no end how people say that nothing can appease us, when that simply is not true. It's just a tactic to dismiss those who have valid and reasonable problems with the endings and solutions for them.


plus the more Earth missions before you reach the Citadel, and I'm assuming this is what everyone wanted but some will like anything Bioware does

Modifié par AresKeith, 19 août 2012 - 08:02 .


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I want to join your club...! I also support the Olympics theory.

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I think Bioware ditched this approach because of budget reasons and the fact that the Reapers in other systems wouldn't be affected by the outcome of the battle at Earth.

Why does that matter? Will Smith didn't have to personally destroy all the alien ships in independence day .... show it can be done, put the rest in a slide show.

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TheRealJayDee wrote...

I want to join your club...! I also support the Olympics theory.


the thread is the club Image IPB

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PinkysPain wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...
I think Bioware ditched this approach because of budget reasons and the fact that the Reapers in other systems wouldn't be affected by the outcome of the battle at Earth.

Why does that matter? Will Smith didn't have to personally destroy all the alien ships in independence day .... show it can be done, put the rest in a slide show.


there would still be an energy wave going through the Relays, but it wouldn't be like the endings or destroy the relays

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bump

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If only the Crucible fired Thresher Maws...

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

If only the Crucible fired Thresher Maws...

best part of ME3 Reaper vs Thresher Maw

Modifié par KENNY4753, 20 août 2012 - 05:17 .


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KENNY4753 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

If only the Crucible fired Thresher Maws...

best part of ME3 Reaper vs Thresher Maw


It would funny if the Reapers made a husk version of one lol

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a Giant machine Thresher Maw perhaps lol

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AresKeith wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

I want to join your club...! I also support the Olympics theory.


the thread is the club Image IPB


Horray, I'm in! Image IPB

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AresKeith wrote...

weaken all the Reapers like Sovereign was in ME1, and have the final battle play out based on your level of EMS, you could win or lose. And the Earth mission would be like the Suicide mission on steroids. This would also give us more Earth missions Image IPB


This doesn't solve the bigger problem that the Reapers are meant to stop. While it would be cool to kill all the "bad guys", it's a short-sighted solution and doesn't provide long-term benefits.

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Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

weaken all the Reapers like Sovereign was in ME1, and have the final battle play out based on your level of EMS, you could win or lose. And the Earth mission would be like the Suicide mission on steroids. This would also give us more Earth missions Image IPB


This doesn't solve the bigger problem that the Reapers are meant to stop. While it would be cool to kill all the "bad guys", it's a short-sighted solution and doesn't provide long-term benefits.


what bigger problem, other than the Reapers

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Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

weaken all the Reapers like Sovereign was in ME1, and have the final battle play out based on your level of EMS, you could win or lose. And the Earth mission would be like the Suicide mission on steroids. This would also give us more Earth missions Image IPB


This doesn't solve the bigger problem that the Reapers are meant to stop. While it would be cool to kill all the "bad guys", it's a short-sighted solution and doesn't provide long-term benefits.


Well that's the whole point.  No Catalyst, no "bigger problem".  Just us vs. the Reapers.

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AresKeith wrote...

Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

weaken all the Reapers like Sovereign was in ME1, and have the final battle play out based on your level of EMS, you could win or lose. And the Earth mission would be like the Suicide mission on steroids. This would also give us more Earth missions Image IPB


This doesn't solve the bigger problem that the Reapers are meant to stop. While it would be cool to kill all the "bad guys", it's a short-sighted solution and doesn't provide long-term benefits.


what bigger problem, other than the Reapers


Synthetics overtaking organics.

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MandaPanda81 wrote...

Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

weaken all the Reapers like Sovereign was in ME1, and have the final battle play out based on your level of EMS, you could win or lose. And the Earth mission would be like the Suicide mission on steroids. This would also give us more Earth missions Image IPB


This doesn't solve the bigger problem that the Reapers are meant to stop. While it would be cool to kill all the "bad guys", it's a short-sighted solution and doesn't provide long-term benefits.


Well that's the whole point.  No Catalyst, no "bigger problem".  Just us vs. the Reapers.


Then the story the game degrades to us killing Reapers that attack for no reason.

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Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

weaken all the Reapers like Sovereign was in ME1, and have the final battle play out based on your level of EMS, you could win or lose. And the Earth mission would be like the Suicide mission on steroids. This would also give us more Earth missions Image IPB


This doesn't solve the bigger problem that the Reapers are meant to stop. While it would be cool to kill all the "bad guys", it's a short-sighted solution and doesn't provide long-term benefits.


what bigger problem, other than the Reapers


Synthetics overtaking organics.


which was never the real problem in the series

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Dobby's sock.

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AresKeith wrote...

Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Fiji Indian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

weaken all the Reapers like Sovereign was in ME1, and have the final battle play out based on your level of EMS, you could win or lose. And the Earth mission would be like the Suicide mission on steroids. This would also give us more Earth missions Image IPB


This doesn't solve the bigger problem that the Reapers are meant to stop. While it would be cool to kill all the "bad guys", it's a short-sighted solution and doesn't provide long-term benefits.


what bigger problem, other than the Reapers


Synthetics overtaking organics.


which was never the real problem in the series


Why not?

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Fiji Indian wrote...

Why not?


because the only organic vs synthetic conflict was the Geth and Quarians, which the Geth never wanted to kill the Quarians in the first place and was also resolved after the Rannoch mission

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AresKeith wrote...

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Why not?


because the only organic vs synthetic conflict was the Geth and Quarians, which the Geth never wanted to kill the Quarians in the first place and was also resolved after the Rannoch mission


That doesn't mean that synthetics wouldn't eventually evolve further and start overtaking organics at some point in the future.