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[cronshaw]

I still use the typhoon, I'm not sure it was ever really useable on more than a few classes anyway because if the weight: Human soldier, Destryoer, Demolisher.

[eltdown]

Rifneno wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

I appreciate the complement thank you. You like everyone else on the other
hand don't think outside of what they see I notice. The nerf is
justified, why? Because someone who just got out of bronze because they
got a typhoon 1, playing on destroyer with no experiance ever on gold is
able to "keep up" with the rest of the team simply because his magic
gun is melting everything, IS NOT BALANCED. The same thing was an issue
with the krysea, "I have no skill and I can't shoot, but this gun lets
me hit things Im not even shooting at, so I can play gold just fine."
Take your trash and sell it to someone who eats that garbage. I'm with
the nerf 100%.

I didn't think you could come up with anything stupider, but then you went and said that a gun that requires people to be out of cover for extended periods of time to do any real damage lets bronze players hold their own in gold. Bravo, you put the bar on the ground and still didn't manage to clear it.  I'm pretty sure you'll have to just start headbutting the keyboard to come up with anything dumber now.  Don't disappoint us!

You can make the point you're trying to whilst being less abrasive - being less so might even help get your point across better, would you believe?

Ronnie: you could say the same about using rares in Bronze and Silver, so I'm unclear on the logic behind your post. As is, the Typhoon's now out-DPS'd by other non-UR guns.

Modifié par eltdown, 18 août 2012 - 02:14 .

[Rifneno]

eltdown wrote...

You can make
the point you're trying to whilst being less abrasive - being less so
might even help get your point across better, would you believe?

Act respectful, get a respectful response.  He didn't, so I didn't.

[AwesomeDudex64]

Mgamerz wrote...

Feels balanced to me, its in line with other weapons.

It's an ultra-rare you idiot. It's not supposed to be in line with other weapons.

[ryoldschool]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...


I appreciate the complement thank you. You like everyone else on the other hand don't think outside of what they see I notice. The nerf is justified, why? Because someone who just got out of bronze because they got a typhoon 1, playing on destroyer with no experiance ever on gold is able to "keep up" with the rest of the team simply because his magic gun is melting everything, IS NOT BALANCED. The same thing was an issue with the krysea, "I have no skill and I can't shoot, but this gun lets me hit things Im not even shooting at, so I can play gold just fine." Take your trash and sell it to someone who eats that garbage. I'm with the nerf 100%.

The Typhoon is not "just fine" as it is.    The thing is presently better than a Revenant, but if you have the PPR or Harrier that is where I spend my AR rail 3 mods on and not the Typhoon.  This is not based on some numbers on a spreadsheet, its based on in-game experience.   Looking at your manifest you have the PPR at 3 and it is no doubt better than your Typhoon IV.   So you are OK with four wasted upgrades?

Maybe you had a problem with the Pre-nerf Typhoon, but the problem I have with it now is that they nerfed it to the point where they ruined the gun from my perspective - I just won't use it because it has some negative parts of its usage that are not justified by the performance once you get it up to speed.

So when I see posts that say it is just fine now, I'm like wtf.   Try it out for yourself, compare any class with the PPR and the Typhoon.   If it were not for the PPR and Harrier then we would have no great Assault rifles in this game.

Edit: fixed the quote...

Modifié par ryoldschool, 18 août 2012 - 02:27 .

[Mgamerz]

Rifneno wrote...

eltdown wrote...

You can make
the point you're trying to whilst being less abrasive - being less so
might even help get your point across better, would you believe?

Act respectful, get a respectful response.  He didn't, so I didn't.

You're a true BSN veteran.

[ryoldschool]

Mgamerz wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

eltdown wrote...

You can make
the point you're trying to whilst being less abrasive - being less so
might even help get your point across better, would you believe?

Act respectful, get a respectful response.  He didn't, so I didn't.

You're a true BSN veteran.

I was going to ask you to test the PPR vs the Typhoon, but your manifest is private.  You already posted a whole thread where you said Typhoon was fine, and pages of people who disagreed with you.  Have you tested similar builds vs the PPR?

[Ashen One]

ryoldschool wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...


I appreciate the complement thank you. You like everyone else on the other hand don't think outside of what they see I notice. The nerf is justified, why? Because someone who just got out of bronze because they got a typhoon 1, playing on destroyer with no experiance ever on gold is able to "keep up" with the rest of the team simply because his magic gun is melting everything, IS NOT BALANCED. The same thing was an issue with the krysea, "I have no skill and I can't shoot, but this gun lets me hit things Im not even shooting at, so I can play gold just fine." Take your trash and sell it to someone who eats that garbage. I'm with the nerf 100%.

The Typhoon is not "just fine" as it is.    The thing is presently better than a Revenant, but if you have the PPR or Harrier that is where I spend my AR rail 3 mods on and not the Typhoon.  This is not based on some numbers on a spreadsheet, its based on in-game experience.   Looking at your manifest you have the PPR at 3 and it is no doubt better than your Typhoon IV.   So you are OK with four wasted upgrades?

Maybe you had a problem with the Pre-nerf Typhoon, but the problem I have with it now is that they nerfed it to the point where they ruined the gun from my perspective - I just won't use it because it has some negative parts of its usage that are not justified by the performance once you get it up to speed.

So when I see posts that say it is just fine now, I'm like wtf.   Try it out for yourself, compare any class with the PPR and the Typhoon.   If it were not for the PPR and Harrier then we would have no great Assault rifles in this game.

Edit: fixed the quote...

Bioware heard: Nerf the Particle Rifle.

[ryoldschool]

Ashen Earth wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...


I appreciate the complement thank you. You like everyone else on the other hand don't think outside of what they see I notice. The nerf is justified, why? Because someone who just got out of bronze because they got a typhoon 1, playing on destroyer with no experiance ever on gold is able to "keep up" with the rest of the team simply because his magic gun is melting everything, IS NOT BALANCED. The same thing was an issue with the krysea, "I have no skill and I can't shoot, but this gun lets me hit things Im not even shooting at, so I can play gold just fine." Take your trash and sell it to someone who eats that garbage. I'm with the nerf 100%.

The Typhoon is not "just fine" as it is.    The thing is presently better than a Revenant, but if you have the PPR or Harrier that is where I spend my AR rail 3 mods on and not the Typhoon.  This is not based on some numbers on a spreadsheet, its based on in-game experience.   Looking at your manifest you have the PPR at 3 and it is no doubt better than your Typhoon IV.   So you are OK with four wasted upgrades?

Maybe you had a problem with the Pre-nerf Typhoon, but the problem I have with it now is that they nerfed it to the point where they ruined the gun from my perspective - I just won't use it because it has some negative parts of its usage that are not justified by the performance once you get it up to speed.

So when I see posts that say it is just fine now, I'm like wtf.   Try it out for yourself, compare any class with the PPR and the Typhoon.   If it were not for the PPR and Harrier then we would have no great Assault rifles in this game.

Edit: fixed the quote...

Bioware heard: Nerf the Particle Rifle.

lol, damnnnnnnn.

[Seifer006]

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

Feels balanced to me, its in line with other weapons.

It's an ultra-rare you idiot. It's not supposed to be in line with other weapons.

First: Mgamerz isn't an Idiot.

Secondly: Him and I may disagree with the decision Bioware did with the Typhoon, but that doesn't make him an Idiot.

Third: IMO the Tyhpoon didn't need the nerf. There's many other guns that could have been selected for re-balance.

[Seifer006]

Sp3c7eR wrote...

Jammer wrote...
You people claiming it was nerfed into uselessness need to learn to shoot.

LOLOLOLOLOL You didn't just say that, did you? :lol::D:D:D omg i'm dying here

LOL!


BSN.....you continuually amaze me

[Pee Jae]

I use it on my Destroyer. Mostly because you don't need cooldown, just turn on your missiles, Devastator mode and annihilate ****.

With any other class, it's just too damned heavy and other weapons with gear, mods and consumables are much better. My two credits.

[SimulatedSnowman]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
I appreciate the complement thank you. You like everyone else on the other hand don't think outside of what they see I notice. The nerf is justified, why? Because someone who just got out of bronze because they got a typhoon 1, playing on destroyer with no experiance ever on gold is able to "keep up" with the rest of the team simply because his magic gun is melting everything, IS NOT BALANCED. The same thing was an issue with the krysea, "I have no skill and I can't shoot, but this gun lets me hit things Im not even shooting at, so I can play gold just fine." Take your trash and sell it to someone who eats that garbage. I'm with the nerf 100%.

Ah so you're not a balance nerfer, you're a "I CAN'T LET NOOBS OUTSCORE MEEEE!!!" nerfer. 

[Silent Rage]

Rifneno wrote...

Cole Jones wrote...

SO your saying that It's BAD for them to have a life...

You're. And no, I'm saying if you want to discuss the high end game, you need to actually be a part of it if you want to be taken seriously. This guy doesn't understand what it's like to grind millions and millions of credits getting nothing but consumables before finally getting an UR only to have it held up to the standards of rares. He sure as hell doesn't play platinum unless he's being carried by some poor sap so he doesn't understand what a rev up means there, if even gold. And don't tell me weapons shouldn't be balanced around platinum. URs should be good choices for platinum. Period.

But I'm sure you'll continue the strawman bull****. Your manifest is the same. Which is fine, not everyone can play hardcore. Not everyone can be a doctor, but I know better than to start arguing with an oncologist about the specifics of liver cancer. You and the OP should too.

"I am a frequenter of many Forums and an active contribuiter to the wiki (We laugh at the people here)"

LOL. Just... LOL.

Jammer wrote...

I'm not trying to compare the Typhoon to weapons I don't have. I'm saying it's a good gun, period. You like something else better? Good on you. But don't come around whining about the "uselessness" of the Typhoon. If a mediocre player like me can make the thing sing, it's a friggin' good weapon.

You don't want us to compare it to other UR's because you don't have them? That's your problem. The fact is the PPR is better in nearly every way. The fact you don't play enough to have it does not change that. And no, nobody says the typhoon isn't viable. Of course it's viable. We're saying that its DPS is not what it should be.

- It's tied for the second highest weight in the game. This combined with its rev up pretty much eliminates the ability to use it on power-centric classes. It's restricted to only a few classes.
- The rev up is a major issue. It requires you to exposed and vulnerable for 1.5s before you even begin doing its real DPS. On gold, let alone platinum, that's plenty of time to get your ass chewed off even on beefy classes. And if you get staggered, you're right back at the drawing board.

Between these two major detrimental factors and the fact it's ultra rare, it should be one of the highest if not the highest DPS in the game. It's definitely not.

No life.

[CivvieWarrior20]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Another destroyer saying the typhoon is ok.
...sigh

Non Destroyer here.....Tyhpoon is fine.

[CivvieWarrior20]

Rifneno wrote...

eltdown wrote...

You can make
the point you're trying to whilst being less abrasive - being less so
might even help get your point across better, would you believe?

Act respectful, get a respectful response.  He didn't, so I didn't.

I see you're here trolling another thread about the Typhoon.  Shown me the doll where the nasty rifle touched you

[Ronnie Blastoff]

SimulatedSnowman wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
I appreciate the complement thank you. You like everyone else on the other hand don't think outside of what they see I notice. The nerf is justified, why? Because someone who just got out of bronze because they got a typhoon 1, playing on destroyer with no experiance ever on gold is able to "keep up" with the rest of the team simply because his magic gun is melting everything, IS NOT BALANCED. The same thing was an issue with the krysea, "I have no skill and I can't shoot, but this gun lets me hit things Im not even shooting at, so I can play gold just fine." Take your trash and sell it to someone who eats that garbage. I'm with the nerf 100%.

Ah so you're not a balance nerfer, you're a "I CAN'T LET NOOBS OUTSCORE MEEEE!!!" nerfer. 

No i'm a I can't let noobs f**k up my credits because they can't play gold when shyt hits the fan, nerfer. I don't care about being on the bottom of the SB, the SB is broken. I care about getting my credits. And EVERYTIME shyt hits the fan and some newb using a O.P. weapon or Biotic/electric slash spam or w/e crutch this game is given them, they fail. I'm all for balance, and the typhoon wasn't balanced pre-nerf.

@eltdown- wasnt going in the direction of difficulty compared to weapon rarity. My point was that "less experienced" players should not all of a sudden get a miracle of hope and hop into platinum and do well solely because of a weapon/ability that is so powerfull it negates them having to "know how to play" and keep up with a player thats grinded hours on end since the release. That defeats the purpose of having any other gun in the game as well.

Perfect experience. I let my friend play on my account while I was busy doing house work. I told him to use the Kyrsea (pre-nerf) and ya know what? Even with NO Mass Effect experience he "looked" no different than any pro player who's been in the game for months. This is on gold, even with my account, and his ability to grasp shooter games, NO ONE should be "looking" like a pro player in his 1st few minutes of gameplay simply because of a weapon. He even came out his mouth and said, "hey ronnie they need a higher difficulty than this, this shyt is easy."

I posted for a krysae nerf that week in the forums.

[Moress]

typhoon really is fine, it just needs certain things now:

good line of sight
works better on a larger map, in my experience
large field of fire

pretend you're a gun enplacement with it and stuff is boned

[Rifneno]

Moress wrote...

typhoon really is fine, it just needs certain things now:

good line of sight
works better on a larger map, in my experience
large field of fire

pretend you're a gun enplacement with it and stuff is boned

People keep saying it's fine, but never say why it doesn't measure up to the PPR or harrier.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Moress wrote...

typhoon really is fine, it just needs certain things now:

good line of sight
works better on a larger map, in my experience
large field of fire

pretend you're a gun enplacement with it and stuff is boned

This is what people who don't see the nerf as a good thing is missing. Everyone is worried about damage damage damage. No on is looking at the Overall picture of the game.

Not every gun is going to be effective everywhere. The widow, although usable on glacier is still not the best choice of weapon since the map is crunched. A hurricane-most shotguns would be a horrible main weapon on giant.

The typhoon is a overall GREAT weapon. I didn't even unlock the gun until after the nerf, and know what, I still think the gun is OP. I can't even imagine what the gun was like before the nerf, probably as bad as the krysae. I also play with the mindset that damage isnt everything in this game.
*The gun has a huge clip, save a trip to ammo pack.
*Even after nerf, the guns single bullet damage is a revenant that shoots accurately down stream, even without equipment mods (don't usualy play with equipment)
*The gun has built in armor piercing....the only other gun i know has this is the widow/BW
*The gun has a built in damage increase that grows as your RoF grows. Yea i don't get how someone could complain about the beggining rate of fire being bad, learn to take soft cover and shoot an enemy when its safe to.
*The gun is accurate. The gun gets reliable headshots across giant without a scope and with little recoil adjustment.

I don't have any experience touching the gun pre-nerf. stated before, the gun was in everyones weapon loadout at level 1 with the same mods and these people were in gold/platinum with low enough N7s that they didn't even have medigel/rocket capacities up. But still "looked" to the unexperienced player, like they belonged in gold/platinum.

[Mgamerz]

ryoldschool wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

eltdown wrote...

You can make
the point you're trying to whilst being less abrasive - being less so
might even help get your point across better, would you believe?

Act respectful, get a respectful response.  He didn't, so I didn't.

You're a true BSN veteran.

I was going to ask you to test the PPR vs the Typhoon, but your manifest is private.  You already posted a whole thread where you said Typhoon was fine, and pages of people who disagreed with you.  Have you tested similar builds vs the PPR?

I specifically set it to private so people don't do exactly what you just did, though I guess you weren't being a douche like some other people in this thread seem to have been. 
No, I don't have the PPR, really want it though. The typhoon is alright but I don't see myself using it, my saber is way better (I like the noise and headshots). I don't care that Idon't use the typhoon. I'm not going to force myself to think its the gun I want to use. I'm not going to **** and moan that a weapon got nerfed back to sane levels.
Still, I want my freeze ray.

Modifié par Mgamerz, 18 août 2012 - 03:47 .