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[Dokteur Kill]

Eckswhyzed wrote...
I'm on PC and I can get around 1200RPM on a hot Typhoon using Hunter mode on GI.

That's still a multiple of 300, though 

I was wondering if there's a fundamental difference between PC and Xbox on that front.  Is it locked to a fixed update frequency, or can you get, say, a rate of fire of 1100?

Or is ROF locked to frame rate on PC as well (so you risk getting a lower rate of fire if there's a lot going on and the frame rate drops)? 

[Eckswhyzed]

The thing is I measured the RoF by recording with Fraps, which locks my framerate to 30fps while recording...

I re-recorded some runs with the framerate capped at 50 with my actual framerate around 45. There was no change in the RoF.

[Baldsake]

Rifneno wrote...

CharlieCC wrote...

I don't think ppl were saying Typhoon was nerfed into oblivion, but rather it's been nerfed hard enough that it's not worth using on most classes other than Destroyer.

And the PPR owns it almost every way.  A gun that, one minor buff ago, was the laughing stock of BSN.

But seriously not worth trying to explain to this guy.  He's got a piranha 1 and no acolyte.  To say he got lucky to get a typhoon is a colossal understatement.  Guy probably plays an hour a week and thinks UR's drop like candy.  My manifest was more impressive than his before I got my first UR.  2 ranks of GPS, a gun that's been out since launch.  No.  Not worth talking about the balance of UR's to people that play that little.

The virginity is strong in this one. 

[Rifneno]

RoF is associated with frame rate? Huh... so that's why the mattock would freak out if I took it to the firing range with a clicking macro set too fast (and sadly, still in the range of what the average human can do). Well ****.

[Rifneno]

Baldsake wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

CharlieCC wrote...

I don't think ppl were saying Typhoon was nerfed into oblivion, but rather it's been nerfed hard enough that it's not worth using on most classes other than Destroyer.

And the PPR owns it almost every way.  A gun that, one minor buff ago, was the laughing stock of BSN.

But seriously not worth trying to explain to this guy.  He's got a piranha 1 and no acolyte.  To say he got lucky to get a typhoon is a colossal understatement.  Guy probably plays an hour a week and thinks UR's drop like candy.  My manifest was more impressive than his before I got my first UR.  2 ranks of GPS, a gun that's been out since launch.  No.  Not worth talking about the balance of UR's to people that play that little.

The virginity is strong in this one. 

Shouldn't you be in the IT thread crying about how nobody respects you?

[Eckswhyzed]

Rifneno wrote...

RoF is associated with frame rate? Huh... so that's why the mattock would freak out if I took it to the firing range with a clicking macro set too fast (and sadly, still in the range of what the average human can do). Well ****.

Isn't the Mattock fire rate hard capped? So you can't spam it like in ME2?

[Baldsake]

Rifneno wrote...

Baldsake wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

CharlieCC wrote...

I don't think ppl were saying Typhoon was nerfed into oblivion, but rather it's been nerfed hard enough that it's not worth using on most classes other than Destroyer.

And the PPR owns it almost every way.  A gun that, one minor buff ago, was the laughing stock of BSN.

But seriously not worth trying to explain to this guy.  He's got a piranha 1 and no acolyte.  To say he got lucky to get a typhoon is a colossal understatement.  Guy probably plays an hour a week and thinks UR's drop like candy.  My manifest was more impressive than his before I got my first UR.  2 ranks of GPS, a gun that's been out since launch.  No.  Not worth talking about the balance of UR's to people that play that little.

The virginity is strong in this one. 

Shouldn't you be in the IT thread crying about how nobody respects you?

I don't remember crying about anything bro.

How are you doing with the ladies these days? You should make a copy of your MP manifest and show it to dem girls and watch the thongs drop instantly.

Modifié par Baldsake, 21 août 2012 - 01:14 .

[CHIQUITITOHERMOSO]

The destroyer with the typhoon, is a mobile gatling minigun. I´love it

[GGW KillerTiger]

No in order for it to be fine it needs to be buffed or changed from ultra-rare to rare. It isn't worth ultra-rare rarity anymore considering how it is now on par with the revenant.

[Rifneno]

Eckswhyzed wrote...

Isn't the Mattock fire rate hard capped? So you can't spam it like in ME2?

Yes.  But it's not the mattock in particular that's the problem, that's just the gun that makes it most apparent because of its high RoF and semiautomatic.  If you click too fast, the game just doesn't register a lot of the clicks.  You actually shoot slower by clicking too fast.

[CivvieWarrior20]

Got my Typhoon II last night. Woohhoooooo!!!!!!

[Learn To Love Yourself]

I got a Typhoon I on Friday, and so far, I've tried it on the below:
Destroyer: Underwhelming. Hoping it will be better at higher levels, but I have seen what it used to do. I would rather take a PPR, Harrier, or even a Revenant over it.

Human Soldier: Still underwhelming, but at least fun. AR spec'd for melee has a short enough duration to turn it on when firing, cool down, and then turn it on again right before it runs out of ammo, essentially letting you fire until it is empty. Fun to clear out trash, but definitely not a boss killer. Accuracy isn't too good on a class which doesn't boost it. It becomes more of a close to mid range weapon.

Turian Soldier: My mistake was bringing this as the only gun. It worked okay while Marksman was up, but was quite terrible otherwise. I haven't gone down that much since I was a noob.

I hope they do something to bring it a little closer to the greatness it was, according to the vids I have seen. Right now, it's just another dust collector. At least my Javelin will now have some company.

[Sp3c7eR]

Frame rate and ROF have nothing to do with each other. I play ME3 120 FPS constant on a 120 Hz monitor - I haven't experienced changes in ROF after I uncapped the FPS which was previously limited to 60.

[Pedactor]

You know what the problem with the Typhoon is?

The nerf made it supposedly a boss-killing AR, and in that case the PPR is better at that.

It fills no niche since its a bad mook killer compared to the Revenant X until V or VI according to most.

And I think I'm not alone that I use my AR slot to kill mooks and soften up approaching heavies.

The Indra with Piercing and Barrel mods, the Revenant, the Harrier (without piercing but with clip and barrel), or even the Hurricane are better in that regard.

And no matter what your secondary weapon is on the destroyer, a second boss killer is really redundant. There should be a Piranha in your bag in any match since the Destroyer with the Piranha is arguably the most fun you can have in ME3. It's also why I spec clip over RoF and accuracy.

With that said, the only real way to make the Typhoon sing anymore is with Adrenaline Rush.

It's very sad to say that, but it's true.  With AR up on that gun I scream like Rambo.

Modifié par Pedactor, 21 août 2012 - 05:13 .

[Seifer006]

Sp3c7eR wrote...

Frame rate and ROF have nothing to do with each other. I play ME3 120 FPS constant on a 120 Hz monitor - I haven't experienced changes in ROF after I uncapped the FPS which was previously limited to 60.

This.

[Schneidend]

I wouldn't say the Typhoon is "fine." The difference is definitely noticeable. Also, from a non-mechanical, non-numbers perspective, they nerfed the thing that is rewarding and fun about the Typhoon, the damage ramp-up. Getting the damage multiplier for maintaining fire is the reward for using the Typhoon (or PPR) over other guns. It's the POINT of the gun. I should feel a huge difference between the initial handful of shots' damage and the full RoF shots' damage, but I really don't. I don't feel rewarded for unloading my clip into something with the Typhoon any more, and that's not fun.

And, as Pedactor points out, there's no reaon to use the Typhoon when the Revenant and PPR fill the same role and either do it just as well (Revenant) or much better (PPR).

The Typhoon's base damage should have been nerfed by like 5-10%. Something INCREMENTAL. A substantial nerf to its primary mechanic was ham-fisted and ill-conceived.