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[RGI]

Hello everyone.
No, this is not a troll topic, i'm genuinely  interested in how do you know you're carrying someone. On these forums i've seen multiple times that "player A ended up carrying everyone else", or "these players b and c were waiting for someone to carry them". As i understand it, it means that you're actually soloing the otherwise doomed game with the other players just getting in the way. Does this kind of thing really happens that often? Yes, sometimes i'm better than the other players, sometimes worse, but i believe there was not a single time the game was solely dependent on me, or some other participating player. All the time i've played, the others did contribute as much as they could, even these N7 L7-13 soldiers on silver (except the obvious leechers of course), and i don't think i would've been better on my own or the game would've been a disaster if me or some other player wasn't present.

[Lynx7725]

When your shoulders start to ache from gripping the controller.

Seriously.

[KiraTsukasa]

At the end of the match, if there is someone with a significantly lower score, like around 20k, you carried them.

[Vault Boy X360]

Players that have a tenth of your score and/or die every other round and don't use consumables. Basically the equivalent of a Salarian Engineer's Decoy, except you can't replace it.

[RedJohn]

Lynx7725 wrote...

When your shoulders start to ache from gripping the controller.

Seriously.

And If I use a Keyboard?

[Schneidend]

KiraTsukasa wrote...

At the end of the match, if there is someone with a significantly lower score, like around 20k, you carried them.

Did you carry them or did you just kill more stuff while they were completing objectives? Did they get magnet-handed early in a round? Etc.

Points aren't really a direct indication of contribution or skill.

[Ashen One]

If you find that you've successfully completed a match, where if the other players were around your own skill level you would have failed, you've just been carried.

[Lynx7725]

RedJohn wrote...

Lynx7725 wrote...

When your shoulders start to ache from gripping the controller.

Seriously.

And If I use a Keyboard?

Your wrist hurts? I dunno, I'm on Xbox.

I wasn't kidding, really. If you are carrying, you're really so busy during the game that you're working the controller quite hard. Transmits to the shoulders and an ache would set in. Of course, it depends on your personal RL fitness level,

[Star fury]

When you almost broke your back carrying three mugs to extraction.

[NOME]

To me, it is when I want to scream at their dead body.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Well, sometimes, randoms screw up spawns. Sometimes, I find that worse than soloing, since when you solo, you control the spawns yourself.

When someone needs is downed all the time, and/or doesn't kill anything, you're carrying him/her.

[RGI]

Vault Boy X360 wrote...

Players that have a tenth of your score and/or die every other round and don't use consumables. Basically the equivalent of a Salarian Engineer's Decoy, except you can't replace it.

Ohkay, but what if they're using some support class or just that squishy "high risk, high reward" setup? Sometimes you do have to revive them several times per round from being killed by a husk, but then they end up wiping the floor with several banshees and brutes at the same time.

[anddill]

If you do better and faster just killing stuff or doing the objektives alone then konstantly babysitting your team, then you carry them.

[Inabstract]

When you get dropped in a game hearing squad down, making a *sigh* and carrying the team that was of course stationed at FBWGG.

Not all people particularly suck or anything, it's just they decide Bronze or Silver's too easy and go through a difficulty not suited for them. Other cases the host may disconnect leaving me with two pretty good players that got magnet-grabbed by Banshees.

It all can be a pain at times but i'm never particularly mad or anything, just simply say gg guys and leave.

[SinerAthin]

If your someone wouldn't have made it through the waves without you, then you are carrying them.

[Docwagon1776]

When you decide its less effort to finish the round alone than to try and revive them yet again.

[xxTICxxTOCxx]

Personally I think it's if there's a guy, or guys in the team where you think, '' If we all played like
you have there's no way we would have completed this.''
Example, a silver match I was in, this guy, level irrelevant, was a Geth Engineer. His idea on wave
one was to rush a spawn and heavy melee in the middle of them. He went down; needless to say.
After being revived he did it again, and failed. Wave after wave he's employing the same tactic, with,
inevitably, the same result. Fortunately he was the only one on the side with this level of incompetence
and inability to learn from repeated failure. He was 'carried'.

P.S. I also think you'll find most of the people that don't do objectives, and continue to build on their God like
score believe they are 'carrying the team'.  I imagine them thinking, '' I can't do objectives, I'm too important.''

Modifié par ComicComet303, 18 août 2012 - 02:36 .

[Nelzeben]

If you're the last man standing more than once and your score is much higher than the rest, chances are good you're doing a bit of carrying. Unless you die a lot, then you just got lucky and everyone else died trying to revive you.

It's very subjective, of course. I'm sure many claims of carrying a team are overblown, but if someone has a score of 5k while the rest has around 30k, there's not much of a question that they've been carried.

[Inabstract]

ComicComet303 wrote...

Personally I think it's if there's a guy, or guys in the team where you think, '' If we all played like
you have there's no way we would have completed this.''
Example, a silver match I was in, this guy, level irrelevant, was a Geth Engineer. His idea on wave
one was to rush a spawn and heavy melee in the middle of them. He went down; needless to say.
After being revived he did it again, and failed. Wave after wave he's employing the same tactic, with,
inevitably, the same result. Fortunately he was the only one on the side with this level of incompetence
and inability to learn from repeated failure. He was 'carried'.

Simply put, leeching.

[synapsefire]

RGI wrote...


Ohkay, but what if they're using some support class or just that squishy "high risk, high reward" setup? Sometimes you do have to revive them several times per round from being killed by a husk, but then they end up wiping the floor with several banshees and brutes at the same time.

The best support you can give me is to put on a big gun, kill lots of enemies fast and start pulling some of the aggro. 

Support is a lie.

Modifié par synapsefire, 18 août 2012 - 02:40 .

[xxTICxxTOCxx]

I forgot to add, if you finish a match with a bunch of randoms and get three friend requests, chances are
they're telling you they know they've been 'carried'.

[RGI]

ComicComet303 wrote...

Personally I think it's if there's a guy, or guys in the team where you think, '' If we all played like
you have there's no way we would have completed this.''
Example, a silver match I was in, this guy, level irrelevant, was a Geth Engineer. His idea on wave
one was to rush a spawn and heavy melee in the middle of them. He went down; needless to say.
After being revived he did it again, and failed. Wave after wave he's employing the same tactic, with,
inevitably, the same result. Fortunately he was the only one on the side with this level of incompetence
and inability to learn from repeated failure. He was 'carried'.

P.S. I also think you'll find most of the people that don't do objectives, and continue to build on their God like
score believe they are 'carrying the team'.  I imagine them thinking, '' I can't do objectives, I'm too important.''

I've been in the similar situation several times. Could've been me you're talking about, but i'm not playing GE. I got out of sync, my shots did nothing, i could not repelnish my ammo from boxes or ammo packs. The only thing that worked was meleeing the enemy. Actually, dying until the end of a wave sometimes fixes the issue. So, when you see someone rushing into the enemy spawn meleeing them and ending up dead - don't bother to revive them. Perhaps they are desynced and are trying to get back in sync.

Modifié par RGI, 18 août 2012 - 02:41 .

[KiraTsukasa]

Schneidend wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

At the end of the match, if there is someone with a significantly lower score, like around 20k, you carried them.

Did you carry them or did you just kill more stuff while they were completing objectives? Did they get magnet-handed early in a round? Etc.

Points aren't really a direct indication of contribution or skill.

Even at the end of a silver match, if everyone is contributing equally, each player should have around 50k at least. More than that on higher difficulties. If there's one person that is in the entire match and has less than 20k, you carried him. Even if they were the one person that completed all the objectives, that's only three waves out of ten, and there is still plenty of opportunity for them to contribute during 7 normal waves. If they have only 20k due to being insta-gibbed, then they had to do that every single wave, in which case you carried a leecher.

Points ARE a direct indication of contribution, and most of the time skill.

[PsychoticBiotic]

ComicComet303 wrote...

I forgot to add, if you finish a match with a bunch of randoms and get three friend requests, chances are
they're telling you they know they've been 'carried'.

LOL. I had this happen quite a few times. Sometimes I even get fanmail from them. Why would I want to EVER play with them again?