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[hostaman]

elitehunter34 wrote...

I feel like a broken record at this point, but at the very least Bioware needs to retcon the ending of ME3 if they make a new game/any sort of media that takes place after the events of ME3.

What this retcon would entail would be to completely remove the Catalyst and have the game end right after you talk to Anderson. It would then cut to some sort of variant of the Destroy ending. It would look something like something like this ending. Doing something like that would be the bare minimum Bioware would need to do to fix Mass Effect. While more can be done and should be done, this is all that they would need to do. I'm really not asking for much.

yawn.

[ozzydude66]

Elitehunter34: yes you are asking alot people need to lay off bioware they are an amazing company and people are condeming them for 10 MIN that arnt bad after the EC.

[Benchpress610]

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Time travel?

Nothing conventional can revive the awe i once had for Mass Effect pre-ME3 without erasing my knowledge of ME3.

^^This
 
I can’t unsee what I’ve seen. I can't unfeel what I’ve felt. The awesomeness of the Mass Effect universe died with that horrendous ending.
 
However an apology and full disclosure of how this happened would go a long way to gain me back… Also bring back Drew, Christina Norman and Jessie Houston. Make Weeks the lead writer

Modifié par Benchpress610, 19 août 2012 - 03:37 .

[MattFini]

What can BioWare do to win me back?

They made the EC to address the endings. I may not like the direction ME3 goes in at the end, but that's all they needed to do.

They make a MASS EFFECT 4 and I'm buying it.

[pjotroos]

ME3 and its ending are what they are.

If there was another Mass Effect game ever made I would consider buying it if it was made by the same team that made the first one. Leave the current combat mechanics, go back to the aesthetic from part one. No more high-heels in space, skip ridiculous characters like Jack with her boobstrap, leave out all the sappiness. Less autodialogue would definately be welcome, too, I don't care for my games being oh-so-cinematic, I want them to be games.

Story-wise, it would have to be post-trilogy. Prequels are always more trouble than they're worth, they're either devoid of any surprises or full of retcons. The best way to go about it is to skip couple hundred years ahead and create a setting that could emerge from both destroy and control (with a few different flavour dialogues depending on the player's choice), leaving synthesis out completely. It was ridiculous concept anyway.

Guess that's wishful thinking, though, no less than all the cries for retcon. Drew Karpyshyn is gone, Hack Walters is here to stay.

Modifié par pjotroos, 19 août 2012 - 03:43 .

[ozzydude66]

Mattfini: You are my new fav user.

[Kia Purity]

Redoing ME3 would be a good start.
The ENTIRE game because holy crap, I've been finding more problems that wasn't realized before.

And I had to be shown that Kaidan can make butthawks from just sitting down. o.O

[Blitzhawk65]

ozzydude66 wrote...

Elitehunter34: yes you are asking alot people need to lay off bioware they are an amazing company and people are condeming them for 10 MIN that arnt bad after the EC.

While I'm not one who is calling for lay-offs (except for a shakeup in the writing team which may or may not involve layoffs), there is much more that I dislike about ME3's story/plot than just the endings (handling of rachni, contradicitions, anything involving Cerberus, crucible, etc.). 

Assuming that it's all about the ending is incorrect, the ending just happened to be the most noticeable problem.

[paul165]

ozzydude66 wrote...

Elitehunter34: yes you are asking alot people need to lay off bioware they are an amazing company and people are condeming them for 10 MIN that arnt bad after the EC.

What about the 20 odd hours of utter banality before that?

Anyway to answer the question. Apologise for the lying and the way they treated the consumer base and disregard everything after CHronos so ME4 would be the real end of the Reaper war with no stupid catalyst/crucible.

[ozzydude66]

Paul165: The way I see it is the last 10 min "distorted" the rest of the game. the 29 hours of game leading to the end were great but the end made it seem bad but I can look past that.

Blitzhawk65: I didn't mean BIOWARE had to lay anyone of I ment people need to lay off bioware as in give them some slack.

[a load of stanton]

CONVENTIONAL VICTORY

[unchained wrath]

Bring back planet exploration(with upgraded hammerhead).
Bring back that 80's sci-fi feel to the story.
Begin with a new chapter in the universe(or even beyond?).

Forgot most important one: Ditch EA and stop spoon feeding the mass retards.

Modifié par unchained wrath, 19 août 2012 - 05:25 .

[elitehunter34]

ozzydude66 wrote...

Elitehunter34: yes you are asking alot people need to lay off bioware they are an amazing company and people are condeming them for 10 MIN that arnt bad after the EC.

Please explain how I'm asking for a lot.  It would require almost no new content.  It would simply be a deletion of the Catalyst scene and some slight editing of the Destroy scene.  That would take less effort than what they did with the EC.

[elitehunter34]

hostaman wrote...

elitehunter34 wrote...

I feel like a broken record at this point, but at the very least Bioware needs to retcon the ending of ME3 if they make a new game/any sort of media that takes place after the events of ME3.

What this retcon would entail would be to completely remove the Catalyst and have the game end right after you talk to Anderson. It would then cut to some sort of variant of the Destroy ending. It would look something like something like this ending. Doing something like that would be the bare minimum Bioware would need to do to fix Mass Effect. While more can be done and should be done, this is all that they would need to do. I'm really not asking for much.

yawn.

What are you trying to accomplish by saying this?  I'm honestly really curious.  It's such a bizarre reaction to what I'm saying.

[mechalynx]

Making Destroy canon and focusing first part of ME4 on finding Shepard. Shep doesn't have to be the protagonist, but s/he better be alive and getting to enjoy the victory and peace.

[eddieoctane]

Revive Shep to actually finish off the Reapers (or at least Harbinger) in real action hero style. If the hero goes down, so be it. But walking into an explosion that could be avoided by standing at the back of the room was damned stupid. Have Shep hijack Harbinger and ride him into the sun if our hero has to die. At least we got out spectacularly that way.

Do not allow Casey or Mac anywhere near the production of ME4. I can't stress this one enough. there's been plenty of documented bad decisions by Casey, and Mac has behaved like a yes man in interviews. If you want the franchise to survive, that can't continue.

No day 1 DLC (unless it's free for everyone like Cerberus Network, which also didn't leave the game feeling unfinished if you missed out on it). I'd get rid of MP passes, too. If you want to include content exclusive to new owners and those who have the pass, it can't reduce the core game. Zaeed made the game better, and the Hammerhead was fun. But those elements weren't necessary for the game to make sense, and their inclusion didn't reveal anything that seemed all that vital to the story. Going this route with DLC would have my support.

If there's going to be an MP mode, include a competitive mode. When I heard ME3 was going to have multiplayer, I was stoked to fight against other players. When all we got was horde mode, I was sorely disappointed. MP objective modes (king of the hill, CTF, etc) would make the game better. And there is absolutely a way to work the store and micro-transactions into a competitive mode, though it brings me to my next point:

Don't use micro-transactions for MP. If the game is good, I'll buy map packs. As it stands, no one has to spend a cent on the store, and people are aggravated over random unlocks.

Don't make any promises that can't be kept. (e.g. no A,B,C ending, no "Reaper off-switch")

[sheppard7]

mechalynx wrote...

Making Destroy canon and focusing first part of ME4 on finding Shepard. Shep doesn't have to be the protagonist, but s/he better be alive and getting to enjoy the victory and peace.

Bioware will put Shep in some kind of time capsule and then revive him/her 3000 years in the future. Oh wait, no they did that to Revan in TOR. My bad.

[DextroDNA]

Liara full nude patch.

It includes a full naked model of Liara and 7 explicit sex scenes.

[Sailears]

Make a new IP with similar themes and space exploration, or set a sequel thousands of years after the events in ME3.

[suprhomre]

Start a new company free from EA and start making video games instead of so called "art".

[PinkysPain]

StElmo wrote...
-- what about yourselves?

Simply make one ... MacCasey would absolutely hate it to see the series continued in sequels, enough of a reason for me to try it out.

Modifié par PinkysPain, 19 août 2012 - 06:50 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Currently not interested in ME4. Too much nonsense in the ME3 ending.

[MuhidinSaid]

I`d agree to it under 4 conditions, but they`re pretty unrealistic so I don`t see most of them happening:

-get rid of the crucible
-get rid of starkid slash catalyst
-cerberus has a severely reduced role
-taking your choices into account to create a completely unique play-through, instead of them all being retconned to be the same play-through no matter what your choice was.

[chidingewe8036]

they need to go back to the end of ME2 and rethink their plan of attack.........they need to let the story flow to the grand finale not rush to destroy the reapers and kill shepard off in one game and say "that is the end of Shepard's story"

This is how it should have and needs to go...........

ME3.0 - Prepare for The Reapers (build alliances, gain support, etc. basically what ME3 was all about)

ME4 - The Reapers Arrive and the real War for The Galaxy begins

This is what they should have done in the first place instead of rusing to wrap everything up in one game, they should have just let it flow.

[chidingewe8036]

but speaking from a more realistic stand point I think ME3 is a great game that just needs some TLC and some tweaking. Bioware could still make it the best game in the series if they can put some heads together, take a step back and say "ok lets do alittle shifting here" I mean I hate the EC as much as the original endings but look what they did with the EC? They could do that for the ME2 squad, or the journal system, or etc. etc. it is just going to take sometime and effort but I think they could do it without breaking the bank, I mean it will cost but it wont be as much as a totally new game.