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[Trontor]

soultaker65 wrote...

OK I get a lot of people love both of these weapons, but come on we have 47 other weapons in this game use something else.

The answer is quite easy:

• People use the Cerberus Harrier because BioWare designed too many flaws into all the other Assault Rifles. Well, an Avenger X is actually not bad on Gold if you use Assault Rifle Rail Amp III and Armor Piercing Ammo IV. But that is a lot of consumables for one match.
• People use the Carnifex because BioWare made the weight limit too restrictive in multiplayer. Shepard can carry a Phaeston X and Carnifex X or a Talon X and Avenger X or a Revenant and still have 200% cooldown. I would love to use other guns on my N7 Fury. But I get really really irriated if I cannot use her Biotic powers at the usual speed. I therefore stick to the one gun that gives me 200% cooldown and isn't a Watergun on Silver and above.

And what I mean by overused is that even if people have lets say a Saber 5 they would use there Harrier 1 with it low ammo over it.

I use my Saber VI on the N7 Demolisher. But she is one of the few classes where the excessive weight of that weapon doesn't matter. The weight system was a nice idea. But the limits in multiplayer are much too low. Adepts and other power classes should be able to carry at least one Assault Rifle or Shotgun without power penalties. And Soldiers should be able to carry two.

Modifié par JustAnotherVanguard, 18 août 2012 - 10:03 .

[Xaijin]

Ah another quality thread from 65.

OK I get a lot of people love both of these weapons, but come on we have 47 other weapons in this game use something else.

The game will get alot less boring if you step out of your comfort zone and use any of the other weapons you have unlocked.

I'll use whatever I damn well please, and players who care about results will use the strongest weapons available. If BW nerfs them, they'll move on to other guns.

If BW continues to nerf every gun, they'll nerf themselves out of business, as they've already rather handily started doing.

For the record spending millions of credits to get a crappy gun is way way more boring than using a weapon that actually produces damage.

Modifié par Xaijin, 18 août 2012 - 09:55 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

Haven`s seen Carnifex users for ages...

[Trontor]

baltoid wrote...

Not a huge fan of the Carnifex either. The RoF seems painfully slow for a pistol to me.

Well, you need to learn to aim well. I was a big Assault Rifle fan and it took me weeks to get really good with the Carnifex. But I can now shoot the head of a Geth at the other end of Firebase Hydra if I aim carefully.

Modifié par JustAnotherVanguard, 18 août 2012 - 10:00 .

[Mgamerz]

I don't use the Carnifex now that I've discovered the Paladin. Scope and Cranial Mod on most guys (asari with stasis is even better). The harrier is meh, its a decent go-to gun, but I only use it on guys that I can't find a good loadout for.

[zRz Tyr]

There is a very good reason for why those two guns would be overused.

[SnakeEyes]

The Carnifex and the Harrier are heavily-used guns for a reason: because they're awesome.
The Carnifex is fantastic for Caster classes like the Asari Justicar because at X they don't weight **** and do hefty damage, they carry more ammo with the Thermal Clip mod than the Paladin (10 instead of 5), it's accurate and you can use the Commando Mod to get a sweet bonus to both your Biotics and Pistol damage.
The Harrier is an awesome AR even at Lvl 1 that is full auto, does good damage and is deadly accurate and stable as hell, even when accounting for it's reduced ammo capacity.

[Ares Caesar]

soultaker65 wrote...

OK I get a lot of people love both of these weapons, but come on we have 47 other weapons in this game use something else.

The game will get alot less boring if you step out of your comfort zone and use any of the other weapons you have unlocked.

And I am not exaggerating when I say that in every match I play at least one player is using one of these guns.

Edit: I meant overused not overrated.

1)And what I mean by overused is that even if people have lets say a Saber 5 they would use there Harrier 1 with it low ammo over it.

2)As for the Carnifex it's not as bad as let say a month ago but almost every Adept or Engineer I see still tries snipe with it instead of any of the great guns that Adept can use like Phaeston, Arc Pistol or even the GPS.

Like I said I get that a lot of people love them, but would it hurt to try something new?

1) The Harrier is one of the highest "burst DPS" weapons in the game, and is the only automatic assault rifle thats not only fun, but also effective. (I actually think its one of the most balanced weapons in the game given ammo/weight restrictions). The Saber is also heavy, has lower DPS, and requires FAR MORE finesse to use... I rarely run into people that can use the Saber well, while the Harrier is far more user friendly, and better for all ranges of combat.

2) You compare the Carnifex to those weapons? A) The Phaeston sucks, everytime I see someone using it I cringe, because there are SMGs that are better(which says something) its heavier, lower DPS, and weaker against armor. The Arc Pistol requires charging which is a waste of time, and is also heavier. C) The Geth Plasma Shotty is a great weapon, but it cant shoot as far as the Carnifex and it cannot penetrate cover, and is also nearly 3x as heavy.


While I highly recommend people TRY different weapons merely to keep things interesting for themselves, your post does nothing but suggest highly inferior options... worry less about what other people are using, and more about what you're doing yourself, you'll have more fun that way.

Modifié par Ares Caesar, 18 août 2012 - 10:22 .

[Taritu]

I see the Piranha far more than either of them.

[seedubya85]

A lot of the other guns are a bit crap

[Big Bad]

OP, why exactly do you care what gun I am using as long as I am having fun and using it effectively?

[neteng101]

soultaker65 wrote...

Like I said I get that a lot of people love them, but would it hurt to try something new?

How about letting everyone play the game whichever way pleases them instead?  I don't get the obession some people here have about trying to dictate how others should play the game?

[Draining Dragon]

We use the harrier because it's the only one that feels like an assault rifle.

[Rifneno]

Rucent wrote...

Holy perfect response, Batman!  We need to start using this for threads about the Illusive Man's "logic".

[Hyperglide]

omgBAMF wrote...

I agree with the Carnifex being overrated. Paladin I can outshine a Carnifex X, only downside is the amount of weight it has.

Carnifex is a lot easier to get.  Alas I STILL don't have a Paladin.  Out of the Rares and Uncommons a Carnifex X is beastly.

[smilinpig]

 so what? What the hell do you care what others use? I use every weapon in my arsenal, same w/ characters. Some people like to stick w/ one  thing. I suppose you'll be calling for a nerf too?? God...

[DVS27t]

soultaker65 wrote...

OK I get a lot of people love both of these weapons, but come on we have 47 other weapons in this game use something else.

The game will get alot less boring if you step out of your comfort zone and use any of the other weapons you have unlocked.

And I am not exaggerating when I say that in every match I play at least one player is using one of these guns.

Edit: I meant overused not overrated.

And what I mean by overused is that even if people have lets say a Saber 5 they would use there Harrier 1 with it low ammo over it.

As for the Carnifex it's not as bad as let say a month ago but almost every Adept or Engineer I see still tries snipe with it instead of any of the great guns that Adept can use like Phaeston, Arc Pistol or even the GPS.

Like I said I get that a lot of people love them, but would it hurt to try something new?

Who made you the master of what people use?  Let them use what they want. 

[DHKany]

No love for the Falcon D:.
Carnifexes i don't see that often. Harriers not that much either.
Must be me.

[WizeMan305]

Piranha?

[weezer1201]

Carnifex wasn't overated until the came out with ULM for heavy pistols. I wouldn't use it over a paladin or talon now.

[kevosama]

Yep that's why I have Harrier and Carbides equipped on my FQE. Need something to give her a punch. Although I try to balance my gun usage amongst classes, and give each a species/class relevant loadout.

[Emissary of the Collectors]

I wasn't aware we were supposed to play the game only in a way that suited YOUR preferences...learned something new today

[Cthulu_Cuddler]

I use almost all the guns (except maybe the locust and a few others) but the Carnifex is great for biotics and harrier is great for....everything (mine's on my demolisher)
Anyway, who cares what guns people use?
It's up to them not you,and as long as there's class variety and efficiency, that's what really matters

[NOME]

Who need the Carnifex when you have the eagle.

[zlthorp]

DHR107 wrote...

Harrier is actually good... Carnifex is horrible :/

Umm... not so much.