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[megabeast37215]

Ashen Earth wrote...

landylan wrote...

You use the Prothean particle rifle too much. I hope they nerf it.

I have been seeing an awful lot of PR Destroyers in PUGs though.

It's getting out Ashen... Shhhhhhhh! I saw it on a Salarian Engineer last night in a FBW game... he was dying a WHOLE lot lolz.

[soultaker65]

landylan wrote...

You use the Prothean particle rifle too much. I hope they nerf it.

I don't see people using either of these guns that much. Most people have a low level harrier, and I just don't see the carnifex. It's not even that good.

Nerf it? Ha! you can't nerf perfectionB)

But seriously I loved it when it was "bad" a nerf won't stop me from using it. 

[megabeast37215]

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

I just don't see the carnifex. It's not even that good.

Sorry, wrong. Carnifex is good, even on platinum and Carnifex X is a good substitute for a low level Paladin. These are the two guns I use with my Shadow.

The Carnifex is trash... totally owned by Scorpion/Paladin/Talon... and don't give me that crap about weight, you have Pistol ULM now. Scorpion, even at low levels with Pistol ULM would be my goto caster weapon... if I had such a problem (maxed manifest). In addition to doing more damage to multiple targets, it's a consistent stagger and applies ammo powers as good as any weapon in the game.. and it's a crowd controlling/spawn raping beast.

Seriously... it's the most underrated weapon in the game.

[DatFeel]

ijioujn

Modifié par DatFeel, 19 août 2012 - 04:45 .

[DatFeel]

Scorpion? Lol, I disagree.

[landylan]

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

I just don't see the carnifex. It's not even that good.

Sorry, wrong. Carnifex is good, even on platinum and Carnifex X is a good substitute for a low level Paladin. These are the two guns I use with my Shadow.

It's not that great. Especially on platinum.

It makes no sense at all to even use it on a shadow unless you're one of those people who think the most effective way to kill bosses is to shadowstrike them to death. No infiltrator should use the carnifex in a platinum match. They don't even need a lightweight gun because of tactical cloak's cooldown mechanic.

[Momiji.mii]

I love my Carnifex, but it's also one of the few guns I own that don't weigh too much and can do some serious damage. I was lucky and unlocked it by chance pretty early on in multiplayer, and now its my go-to gun for my adepts and engineers. If I unlock the Talon, Paladin or Scorpion then maybe I will feel differently, who knows? Until then I will happily use it.

[Aiiro]

DHR107 wrote...

Harrier is actually good... Carnifex is horrible :/

espece d'imbecile.

The carnifex is anything but horrible.

[Chardonney]

Aiiro wrote...

DHR107 wrote...

Harrier is actually good... Carnifex is horrible :/

espece d'imbecile.

The carnifex is anything but horrible.

Agreed, fully.

megabeast37215 wrote...

 Scorpion, even at low levels with Pistol ULM would be my goto caster weapon... if I had such a problem (maxed manifest).

I wouldn't use it even if I did have it maxed out, FYI. Not everyone likes it. And don't bother to boast with your manifest. Couldn't care less.

landylan wrote...

It's not that great. Especially on platinum.

...unless you're one of those people who think the most effective way to kill bosses is to shadowstrike them to death.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not that stupid. <_< An obviously you just don't know how to use it properly.



Still, it's all about presonal preference. Everyone is free to use which ever gun they like.

Modifié par Chardonney, 19 août 2012 - 05:20 .

[DatFeel]

I would rather use the Paladin/Talon than the Carnifex.. but stop acting like it's bad, it has pretty decent stopping power and it's low weight is great... You guys realize ulm takes up a slot for a pistol mod right? So it's not just clear cut that you would rather use the Paladin or Talon, imo.

Besides, tell me when you have this perfect opportunity all the time to fire in between casts, anyways? That's the problem with this community.. you nerds sit around and talk about DPS, and all this other crap.. this isn't an MMO, lol.

[GroverA125]

soultaker65 wrote...
The Hornet, Talon, Scorpion, Hurricane, Scimitar, Eviscerator, Katana and Arc Pistol will all do good damage and keep your cooldown low.

Not really.

The Hornet is only truly effective if you have a recoil dampener and a high-level HVB attached, even then, it's nothing special, perhaps an above-average automatic weapon, but that's it. Hurricane is similar, it requires both mods to be good, but then it loses the other amazing mods for SMGs.

Scorpion is too reliant on splash damage and impact shots to be a reliable sidearm, it's too difficult to quickly pop-shot with, hence why it sees little use outside of specialist users who can handle with the above. Plus even at level X you still don't hit Carnifex weight, which means you have to compensate somewhere in mods if you want to keep your powers firing at max speed.

All the highlighted shotguns have too low damage and dependance on a choke to be effective. Even with the choke, chances are that you'll lose maybe 25% of your shells, which means that you may as well take 25% of your damage off that. Same reason that a Pirahna isn't godlike when you give it a non-accuracy buffing class. Also, none of those actually hit the weight of an M-6, weighing an extra 20 more, so they don't really have the right weight either.

As said before, the Arc Pistol is well-regarded as a pain to use properly. It gives a bit more output than an M-6, but costs you a bit of recharge speed, as well as accurate crosshairs and more.

The Carnifex is a more effective, adaptable solution to a primary problem. Mods can be used to make it perfect for the user, the weight is perfect to allow for use of powers without any cost whatsoever, damage is decent, and it lets out its damage in quick bursts, not in sustained bursts. (quick bursts are much better, as you get some good power while firing off powers as fast as possible. getting 1-2 shots out before firing a power.

Modifié par GroverA125, 19 août 2012 - 05:02 .

[DatFeel]

soultaker65 wrote...
The Hornet, Talon, Scorpion, Hurricane, Scimitar, Eviscerator, Katana and Arc Pistol will all do good damage and keep your cooldown low.

Do you actually think those Shotguns you listed or any good? Lol. And yes, the arc pistol can be decent if you don't mind having carpal tunnel syndrome later on in your life.

[DAO MAdhatter]

I really dont like when people who use the listed guns steal my kills(I did the damage, its ****ing mine!) But other than that. I dont care what other people use.

[soultaker65]

DatFeel wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...
The Hornet, Talon, Scorpion, Hurricane, Scimitar, Eviscerator, Katana and Arc Pistol will all do good damage and keep your cooldown low.

Do you actually think those Shotguns you listed or any good? Lol. And yes, the arc pistol can be decent if you don't mind having carpal tunnel syndrome later on in your life.

No the Scimitar & Eviscerator are garbage, but the Katana is great.

[DatFeel]

soultaker65 wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...
The Hornet, Talon, Scorpion, Hurricane, Scimitar, Eviscerator, Katana and Arc Pistol will all do good damage and keep your cooldown low.

Do you actually think those Shotguns you listed or any good? Lol. And yes, the arc pistol can be decent if you don't mind having carpal tunnel syndrome later on in your life.

No the Scimitar & Eviscerator are garbage, but the Katana is great.

The Katana is great? Compared to what?

[whateverman7]

i disagree...i see a nice variety of guns while playing...even then, the gun i probably see the most is the gps

[landylan]

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

It's not that great. Especially on platinum.

...unless you're one of those people who think the most effective way to kill bosses is to shadowstrike them to death.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not that stupid. <_< An obviously you just don't know how to use it properly.



Still, it's all about presonal preference. Everyone is free to use which ever gun they like.

I love when people just basically say that I'm flat out wrong about something with no good reasons. Then they just say it's about personal preferences.

Bangin mah head in the keyboard.

I do know how to use the gun. I'm supposed to aim for the platinum bosses' head. Duh.

[Chardonney]

landylan wrote...

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

It's not that great. Especially on platinum.

...unless you're one of those people who think the most effective way to kill bosses is to shadowstrike them to death.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not that stupid. <_< An obviously you just don't know how to use it properly.



Still, it's all about presonal preference. Everyone is free to use which ever gun they like.

I love when people just basically say that I'm flat out wrong about something with no good reasons.

"It's not that great. Especially on platinum."


Sorry, sweetie, but I think you did it first. Nice post, though.

[landylan]

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

It's not that great. Especially on platinum.

...unless you're one of those people who think the most effective way to kill bosses is to shadowstrike them to death.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not that stupid. <_< An obviously you just don't know how to use it properly.



Still, it's all about presonal preference. Everyone is free to use which ever gun they like.

I love when people just basically say that I'm flat out wrong about something with no good reasons.

"It's not that great. Especially on platinum."


Sorry, sweetie, but I think you did it first. Nice post, though.

Sorry, wrong. Carnifex is good, even on platinum and Carnifex X is a good substitute for a low level Paladin. These are the two guns I use with my Shadow. 

Copy and pasted from your first post to me. You said it was great on platinum?

[Immortal Strife]

I use te Piranha more that the Harrier and Carnifax combined. The amazing shotty gets 191% cooldown on some of the caster classes. Erp-a-derp, Op much...

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 19 août 2012 - 05:36 .

[Chardonney]

landylan wrote...

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

Chardonney wrote...

landylan wrote...

It's not that great. Especially on platinum.

...unless you're one of those people who think the most effective way to kill bosses is to shadowstrike them to death.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not that stupid. <_< An obviously you just don't know how to use it properly.



Still, it's all about presonal preference. Everyone is free to use which ever gun they like.

I love when people just basically say that I'm flat out wrong about something with no good reasons.

"It's not that great. Especially on platinum."


Sorry, sweetie, but I think you did it first. Nice post, though.

[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">Sorry, wrong. Carnifex ]is[/color] good, even on platinum and Carnifex X is a good substitute for a low level Paladin. These are the two guns I use with my Shadow. 

Copy and pasted from your first post to me. You said it was great on platinum?

Yes, because I have used it there.


"I'm supposed to aim for the platinum bosses' head. Duh."

Now that speaks volumes and not in good way.

Modifié par Chardonney, 19 août 2012 - 05:37 .

[The Waffle Cat]

LoL, the PPS fanboy tells others to play with weapons who are as bad as the PPS

intredasting.

[Immortal Strife]

^weight means nothing on the shadow btw, you can manipulate the cloak to give you a 3 second cool every time provided that you have duration and bonus power.

[Immortal Strife]

The Waffle Cat wrote...

LoL, the PPS fanboy tells others to play with weapons who are as bad as the PPS

intredasting.

What is a PPS? My acronym vernacular is lacking at the moment.  

[soultaker65]

DatFeel wrote...

The Katana is great? Compared to what?

The Katana is a great shotgun that doesn't need the Smart Choke to hit long range, and is far better than the Eviscerator, Scimitar, Disciple, Wraith, and Crusader. and if your in a lag match it's better than the Graal and GPS.