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[RiflemanUK]

soultaker65 wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

The Katana is great? Compared to what?

The Katana is a great shotgun that doesn't need the Smart Choke to hit long range, and is far better than the Eviscerator, Scimitar, Disciple, Wraith, and Crusader. and if your in a lag match it's better than the Graal and GPS.

Kataan ever better than a GPS

[soultaker65]

RiflemanUK wrote...
Kataan ever better than a GPS

Only if your lagging any other time the GPS is far better.

[jcamdenlane]

Love the carni. 4 aimed shots fit perfectly in a 2.46 second cooldown cycle. Tips the scales against the paladin for me because of it. Better rhythm.

[megabeast37215]

Chardonney wrote...I wouldn't use it even if I did have it maxed out, FYI. Not everyone likes it. And don't bother to boast with your manifest. Couldn't care less.

So what exactly is your Carnifex killing on Platinum? Not Banshees, Brutes, Ravagers, Primes, Atlases.... so that leaves you with Hunters, Phantoms, Pyros, Centurions, Marauders....

So basically... you brought a gun to Platinum that's only good at killing half the bad guys... and you have to headshot them for it do any significant damage... yet you insist it's still good on Platinum.

One does not simply herp... the derp... quite as hard as you are with this argument.

[Salarian Assassin87]

Honestly i have seen the piranha alot more lately then anything! That gun is getting used more then anything!

I like the harrier, its a great gun on certain characters, i use the paladin more then the carni, an i have tge particle X an its a good gun to! I have been seeing that alot lately too, i play on xbox though!

[MP-Ryan]

megabeast37215 wrote...

200% cooldown is not what people have it made out to be.

Evidently you don't play vanguard (or at least, non-Kroguard).

[CitizenThom]

The Scorpion is a fun alternative to the Carifex, but you have to use ULM to get a +200% power cooldown. Same for the Talon. BTW, the Carnifex still does good damage on platinum and gold when I've used it. I solo'd an Atlas with a Carnifex on plainum to finish off a wave after the other three had been killed completing that wave's objective.

As to the Harrier, I only use the Harrier on my MQI and BSent. Otherwise I prefer the Revenant or the Typhoon.

Modifié par CitizenThom, 19 août 2012 - 09:44 .

[AsheraII]

soultaker65 wrote...

OK I get a lot of people love both of these weapons, but come on we have 47 other weapons in this game use something else.

The game will get alot less boring if you step out of your comfort zone and use any of the other weapons you have unlocked.

And I am not exaggerating when I say that in every match I play at least one player is using one of these guns.

Edit: I meant overused not overrated.

And what I mean by overused is that even if people have lets say a Saber 5 they would use there Harrier 1 with it low ammo over it.

As for the Carnifex it's not as bad as let say a month ago but almost every Adept or Engineer I see still tries snipe with it instead of any of the great guns that Adept can use like Phaeston, Arc Pistol or even the GPS.

Like I said I get that a lot of people love them, but would it hurt to try something new?

Uhmmm, an Adept with a Phaeston? I love the Phaeston, but not on an Adept, it messes up the  recharge times. And Arc Pistol and GPS are actually anti-shield guns. The only shields an adept has a problem with, are the Cerberus Guardian shields. Interresting enough, the Carniflex is simply ideal to snipe the mailsot for those, and oneshot guardians. A Paladin X would be better, but the Carniflex is simply more common. Shields on other units are mostly a nuisance, but not a problem to a Biotic. So a light weapon proximating a sniper rifle in damage is ideal for an adept: that means a heavy pistol.

[DatFeel]

Lol... Not saying that the Wraith and Eviscerator are good (they aren't), but Katana definitely better?Katana better than the GPS? Haha, come on dude, stop trolling.

[Chardonney]

CitizenThom wrote...

The Scorpion is a fun alternative to the Carifex, but you have to use ULM to get a +200% power cooldown. Same for the Talon. BTW, the Carnifex still does good damage on platinum and gold when I've used it. I solo'd an Atlas with a Carnifex on plainum to finish off a wave after the other three had been killed completing that wave's objective.

As to the Harrier, I only use the Harrier on my MQI and BSent. Otherwise I prefer the Revenant or the Typhoon.

Exactly. Thank you. Nothing more to say.

[Pedactor]

The Carnifex is just straight up a great gun. It's balanced by its somewhat slow fire rate. So that one goes out. The reason you see it so often is because it's light, has a good capacity, and does strong damage. It's a great mook killer to pair with a HVB SMG, shotgun, or ironically, the Harrier due to ammo constraints during certain missions.


Now, the Harrier..........

I don't get why anybody would complain about the one AR that works like an AR should. It does solid damage. Yeah the ammo capacity is low, especially without a clip mod, but that's the tradeoff. It's a stupid tradeoff, but that's the tradeoff. The biggest problem with the Harrier is that there's no diet version.

You could say "Mattock is the diet Harrier," but the problem with that is then you can go Carnifex or Paladin and basically just outclass the hell out of the Mattock. So that's not really true.

The issue is that once you get a Harrier, outside of the Indra, there's nothing that's giving you 100% of what it has from the first trigger application. PPR and Typhoon have windup. I won't comment more on either the PPR or Typhoon outside to say that both have major drawbacks that make them absolute trash compared to a Harrier when you can feed the Harrier ammo.

Then below the Harrier, the GPR is completely worthless, and the Phaeston and Avenger, even with ammo consumables and piercing and barrel mods simply don't do enough damage. So then you drop down to a stability-dampered SMG, usually a Hurricane or Tempest, with the Hurricane being the UR boss of SMG's and the Tempest outclassing the Phaeston and Avenger at this point in many ways.

I was surprised as hell at how the Hornet performs now, too. It arguably has a longer range than either the Phaeston or Avenger now.

So that leaves the Vindicator, which I admittedly haven't tried in months and the Revenant, which is entirely a niche gun: It needs a class-based buff to increase accuracy and really can even then only be aimed down sights from cover.



My thought on all of this:

Buff the damage of the Geth Plasma Rifle by 25%, add a stagger. There's now something light that's decent and slots in there in the AR category.

I know there's the Falcon and Striker, too, but the Striker is really hot trash and the Falcon is a CC method that should be looked at as more of a defensive tool and ammo consumable applicator rather than a gun that even comes remotely close to the damage of the Harrier.

TL;DR: Carnifex is fine. Harrier is fine, every other single AR/Auto gun needs a buff in some fashion. Yes, even the PPR (ramp-up needs halved).

[Urdnot Trex]

i dont see how the harrier is the most used gun in the game, seeing as i still dont have it among many other URs yet, when i got all rares maxed along with typhoon

[Stritt57]

Personally I don't care much for the harrier or the carnifex. Yeah the harrier has high dps and the carnifex is a good pistol, but neither of them really work for me.

I would much rather use my mattock x over my harrier. I can also easily shoot the mattock at its 7.5 rounds per second max (I'm on xbox). I am also more accurate with the mattock.

I also prefer the talon or even the phalanx over the carnifex. It really just comes down to my style of play.

[megabeast37215]

MP-Ryan wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

200% cooldown is not what people have it made out to be.

Evidently you don't play vanguard (or at least, non-Kroguard).

No not really... that whole 'flying over the level' thing... it gets to me.

[NuclearTech76]

In the ARs, it's really the Harrier vs the Mattock (ouch my fingers) in terms of great ARs. The falcon is a great weapon but takes ammo mods and great skill to get the most out of.

The carnifax can be put on any class in the game and is a good if not great weapon. With the ULMs, the talon and paladin are more viable on characters with CD but the carnifax is still a great heavy pistol.