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[Sialater]

Well, also, if they give an age to Alistair, they confirm who his mother is.

[melkathi]

Pseron Wyrd wrote...

The way I interpreted Bryce's comments was that your brother goes off to war because he is older, not because you are too young. You may be old enough for war too but he doesn't want to risk losing both of you.

That is the way I understood it as well.

Though from a historical view it's absolutely wrong. The first son manages the family lands, the second goes to the military and the third joins the clergy.
Ah well

[wwwwowwww]

I don't even know how old my character is supposed to be, how they heck can I figure out his age. Although given he's still a virgin I'd guess between 17-19

[MEUTRIERE]

I haven't read the book, but I read the Wiki for "The Calling", which says something about Maric's "nine-year-old son" in the beginning. I assume the events of "The Calling" transpire over about a year or two (although I could certainly be wrong, having not read it myself), making Cailan about 10 or 11 when Fiona's child is born. Assuming this child is Alistair, this would make him about 11 years younger than Cailan. As you say Cailan is 29, this would make Alistair 18ish at the beginning of Dragon Age: Origins. This seems a reasonable age, as Alistair was just about to become a templar. I imagine Dragon Age occurs over a year and a half to two years, making Alistair 20ish when he becomes King (if that's how you end it.)



Then, of course, you can take into account Duncan. Seeing as how he was a young recruit to the Grey Wardens in "The Calling" and he was at the end of his life in Dragon Age, this would make the gap between the two a bit under 30 years. I'm guessing around 27 years. Once again, assuming Alistair is Fiona's child, this would make him about 27 at the beginning of the game and around 29 by the end.



Personally I think Alistair seems to be between these two ages, more like 25. As I've said, however, I haven't read the books and my numbers may be off. If anyone can confirm/deny my estimations, go right ahead. ;D

[Elessara]

Remember though that once someone becomes a Grey Warden it's not 30 years exactly. It's 30 years "give or take" .... which could be a +/- 5 yers or so. Or more ... or less. I would assume that the 30 years is an average.

[MEUTRIERE]

Okay, so the estimate on that guess is between 22-32?

I guess in the end, we just don't know.  Obviously he's between 17 and 32, so I'm guessing that just brings us full circle to where we started. 

[Ulicus]

If he's Fiona's son then I figure he could be 18 at the very most, because early 9:12 Dragon seems about the earliest "The Calling" can be set. I originally figured he was in his early twenties but if he's not...

*shrug*

It's hardly the end of the world. I can accept Xander as a teenager in BtVS, after all.

It makes the stuff Loghain (and the codex) says about him being hidden from Rowan outdated but it's not like the setting can't survive that retcon. Especially since you can just avoid that particular line if you so choose.

Cailan's 9 in the book, making him around 27 or so by the time the game begins. Not exactly the "child" or "very young man" Loghain talks about but, again, that's not really a huge deal and can be handwaved pretty easily. Once you're as old as Loghain is, everyone starts to look very young in comparison. Unless they're Eamon. Then they're old and fat.

And, while I'm at it, Duncan's a lad of "maybe eighteen" to Maric's eyes in the book, which puts him in the 35-37 range during the game. Assuming Maric's estimate is accurate, of course. I imagine it is.

Elessara wrote...

Remember though that once someone
becomes a Grey Warden it's not 30 years exactly. It's 30 years "give or
take" .... which could be a +/- 5 yers or so. Or more ... or less. I
would assume that the 30 years is an average.

Gaider recently said that 30 years was actually closer to the maximum, I think. He also mentioned that there was a degree of accelerated aging, too, which would neatly explain Duncan. At the end of the day, Alistair is new. I can easily imagine Duncan saying: "If you're lucky, you'll have maybe 30 years" and Alistair hearing "30 years, give or take."

Duncan, it turns out, hadn't even been a Grey Warden for twenty years before he started to think he was close to his Calling. (Though "not long" could have been a few years or so)

Modifié par Ulicus, 10 janvier 2010 - 03:59 .

[Arc_Orion]

The toolset says Cailan is 25. (But then it also says Alistair is 32

Yeah, 32 is a big overshot considering that Arl Eamon's character file reports him as 45, placing him at 13 years old when Alistair was born.

One thing we all should consider is that a year in the world of Dragon Age may or may not pass during the same length of time Earth years pass.

Modifié par Arc_Orion, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:03 .

[Kepha]

The main story of The Calling takes place in a relatively short time frame, longest I think it could be is about a month or so depending on how long it took to travel places. The epilogue which introduces Fiona and Maric's child takes place about a year later.

Modifié par Kepha, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:05 .

[Ginasue]

Remember that Calan and Anora have been married for 5 years.

[Raoune]

Arc_Orion wrote...

The toolset says Cailan is 25. (But then it also says Alistair is 32

Yeah, 32 is a big overshot considering that Arl Eamon's character file reports him as 45, placing him at 13 years old when Alistair was born.

Wow! Really?

I hope your theory on age is right then. I for one would have placed him at around 50 at least, with little Teagan around 40.

[robertthebard]

gauntz wrote...

Looking at game design, Cailan and Allistair looks about equal in terms of age. The game hints say that Cailan has been king for 5 years, and the general impression you get from say Arl Howe suggests that he's young, immature/unfit etc.I imagined Cailan was about 20 when his father died and he took the throne, making him 25 years old, and that Allistair got recruited just before his templar vows making him ca. 18-20 at that point, and that he got a year or three with experience before the start of the game, making him 21-23. The way everyone goes about how Duncan was like a father to Allistair and how Loghain always seem to (want to) mentor Cailan makes them seem very young. So, does this mean that Maric cheated on his wife? The way the game presents him makes him seem like paragon of good kind of guy, not someone breaking his vows.

Alistair has been a Grey Warden for 6 months at the start of the game.

[Estelle019230]

Alistair seems like he's in his early or mid-twenties, at the very least. Although he acts SO much younger than that about 90% of the time... lol

[Ginasue]

No man is worth his salt until he's at least 30, until then there all just little boys. Wonderful little boys, but still..........

[Tahaisi]

Rowan died in 9:08 according to the official game guide, two years before the events of the Calling (which had to take place in 9:10). Since Cailan was 9 in the Calling, that means he was born in 9:01--before Maric actually reclaimed the throne in 9:03. That makes Cailan 29 in 9:30 during the events of the game. It also means that, if Alistair is indeed Fiona's son, and the convenient coincidences regarding his past and birth seem to indicate that he is, that he would be 19 at the start of the game. It's a little younger than I would expect but not entirely unbelievable.

[Beerfish]

For me Wynne has the big age conundrum. In one part Leliana and Wynne have a banter moment talking about Lelianas age when she joined the chantry or something like that and the age of about 25 is mentioned. Wynne then makes a comment that she was around that age 2 decades ago which would only make her around 45 which seems much much too young.

[twintalons]

He acts about 18 but looks about 25 ...... then again if you look at the preset human noble male faces for your PC (who I took to be about 18) they LOOK about 35 ..... so not sure what's going on with the looks.

Yep Wynne talks as if she's about 70 but she looks maybe 50 .....

[KariTR]

About the toolset age of 32. The devs have already explained in another thread that while originally Alistair was written as a man in his early 30s, it didnt make sense that he would defer to a new Warden, so his age was reduced so the Hero's role in the story is more logical.
During the conversation either about Goldanna or between her and Alistair, it is stated by one of them that their mother went to work in the castle 20 years ago. I'd suggest this means that when you meet Alistair he is 19 at most.

Modifié par KariTR, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:17 .

[Elessara]

Also ... Alistair really couldn't be in his 30's anyway. He'd have been born in the previous age before Ferelden was free or Maric was king or before Maric was even married to Rowan and before Eamon had control of Redcliffe.



And who's to say that Alistair hasn't been lied to about other things? Like his own age? I think a codex entry in the game mentions the calendar and how people only pay attention so they know when holidays are but only the scholars really pay attention to the years. Would he question it? If I my parents told me I was 4 and born in 19XX but I was really 5 and born one year earlier ... I wouldn't know would I? Unless I saw my birth certificate.

[TeleProd]

Gaider recently said that 30 years was actually closer to the maximum, I think. He also mentioned that there was a degree of accelerated aging, too, which would neatly explain Duncan. At the end of the day, Alistair is new. I can easily imagine Duncan saying: "If you're lucky, you'll have maybe 30 years" and Alistair hearing "30 years, give or take."

Duncan, it turns out, hadn't even been a Grey Warden for twenty years before he started to think he was close to his Calling. (Though "not long" could have been a few years or so)

*The Calling spoilers!*

The other Wardens in the deep roads had their corruption process sped up. Although Duncan was protected, his corruption process could've been sped up too, just less. Bad luck + faster corruption = 20 years, maybe?

[Elanareon]

i read somewhere that Cailan was 5 yrs old in The Calling.

[Elanareon]

“Don’t you have a young son?” she asked.

“Cailan. He is five years old, yes.”

[Tahaisi]

Elanareon wrote...

“Don’t you have a young son?” she asked.
“Cailan. He is five years old, yes.”

Ok--I'm holding the book "The Calling" in my lap right now.  Page 93, midway down the page on the right side. 

"Don't you have a young son?" she asked.
"Cailan.  He is nine years old, yes."  

So either there's two different ages listed in different printings of  the books, or one of us can't read  I hope it's not me.

[Alarna]

In the Calling, Cailan is 9 years old.

At the end of The Calling Alistair is born (if he is Fianos son) and Maric gives the Grey Wardens right to come back to Ferelden.

At the beginning of the game in the loadscreen is a hint, that Maric gave this right 20 years ago.

So Alistair is 20 and Cailan 30