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[krullstar]

  There was a good movie many years ago called Assassins starring Antonio Banderas & Sylvester Stallone.  The assassin character played by Antonio Banderas was especially memorable.  He was hilarious, the way he talked, his mindset etc...
The character Zevran is pretty much a carbon copy of that character, so much so that I consider it plagiarism.

Anyone who doubts this, just go watch the movie Assassins.  

Some may see no issues with this, but to me, I found it bothersome.  Having some similarities is fine but not so in your face obvious.

Anyone else notice this?

Modifié par krullstar, 22 décembre 2009 - 09:34 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

There is much more to a character than that. The hedonistic, devil-may-care assassin goes back further than a forgettable movie. Was that movie an inspiration for Zhevran, maybe!



Besides, good writes borrow, great writers steal. :-)

[Bibdy]

Not this again...

[Skellimancer]

Bibdy wrote...

Not this again...

What about this, OP?

[lady winde]

lmao Ohhh my god. XD I am so glad I wasn't drinking when I clicked on this. Nice one!

[The Angry One]

That's not plagiarism, she's changed faces at least 52 times since then, it's public domain baby!

[AsheraII]

I'm amazed nobody mentioned the obvious similarities between the introductionary song on the log in screen and "Highway to Hell" by AC/DC yet. Pure plagiarism I tell ya!

[Cuthlan]

Agh! I never would have made that connection, and I'll never look at Morrigan the same again.

[mmmbeerz]

People and their crazy ideas of plagiarism. At least this OP got the spelling correct.



The dictionary definition of plagiarism is "a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work." It could also include the close imitation of materials or thoughts. I'm not sure how a carbon copy of a character from a movie constitutes plagiarism.



Is the character 100% original? Perhaps not; few characters are. However, you have presented nothing to make that case: was the original character a dalish elf? was he white with white hair? was he bisexual? was he sold off to a band of assassins at an early age?



Moreover, I would wager good money that the two share almost no dialogue in common. If Assassins (I may have seen that) is anything like any other A. B. movie, then there was almost no dialogue and only a lot of shooting and killing.

[Tirigon]

Who cares? The biggest plagiarism is in the battle of Helms Deep anyways ... ehm, I mean Ostagar of course. No similarities at all, why do I think of LotR now? Oh, and when the last boss dies, there is such a fiery explosion on top of a tower that is SO NOT like Sauron dying when the ring is destroyed....



;x

[Kyogen]

Homage!

[bzombo]

krullstar wrote...

  There was a good movie many years ago called Assassins starring Antonio Banderas & Sylvester Stallone.  The assassin character played by Antonio Banderas was especially memorable.  He was hilarious, the way he talked, his mindset etc...
The character Zevran is pretty much a carbon copy of that character, so much so that I consider it plagiarism.

Anyone who doubts this, just go watch the movie Assassins.  

Some may see no issues with this, but to me, I found it bothersome.  Having some similarities is fine but not so in your face obvious.

Anyone else notice this?

oh god........

[David Gaider]

So today the plagiarism in question is that Zevran and the character from Assassins that Antonio Banderas played:

1) have a similar voice
2) are assassins
3) are funny

...and this constitutes plagiarism? I'll assume this stems primarily from #1 and #2... Jon Curry's (that's Zevran's VA, if I remember right) voice sounds eerily like Antonio Banderas, after all. How this leads to us "copying" his character from the movie Assassins is a bit more of a mystery.

No offense to the OP, but this sort of logic seems a bit common around these parts ("these parts" meaning the Internet). Step 1: Generalize a character or story. Step 2: Find commonalities between that generalization and another character or story that you're aware of. Ignore differences. Step 3: If one came before the other chronologically, label it as "rip off" (or in this case "plagiarism").

While I suppose the argument can be made that someone wants to see something more original, it seems like this method can be (and is) used on almost anything creative. I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove. Though I imagine at least a few people will be eager to theorize on that front.

Modifié par David Gaider, 22 décembre 2009 - 10:48 .

[Bibdy]

I actually thought it was Antonio Banderas doing the VA of Zevran until I read the credits...

[bzombo]

thanks david. i was extremely worried that antonio banderas was "plagiarized". :-)

[blazin130791]

There is no such thing as truely original writing.

[devSin]

Oh, come on. At least they've graduated to basing it off #1 and #2.



That's some improvement over last week, where all it took was #1, no?

[Tirigon]

Well, even if Zevran would actually plagiarize (is this really a word btw???) Antonio Banderas, why not? He does a great job in El Mariachi, I would like to see the mariachi around here! And these cool bombs in guitars :-)

[bzombo]

devSin wrote...

Oh, come on. At least they've graduated to basing it off #1 and #2.

That's some improvement over last week, where all it took was #1, no?

last week i thought it was more like #4: not a damn thing!

[SleeplessInSigil]

Dragon Age is a plagiarism of my life.

[bzombo]

SleeplessInSigil wrote...

Dragon Age is a plagiarism of my life.

lawsuit!!!!!!

[Seclus]

enchantment?



i don't remember zevran acting like antonio banderas?

I missed zevran saying I am so sexy look at my nappy hairy chest. cause I am antonio banderas!



plagiarism would involve zevran being nearly identical in look, character flaws and history background to even remotly come close to what your claiming. Zevran is very far from being like the assassin from that movie. I disagree with you OP there are too many differences for me to agree with you.

[DragonRageGT]

Plus Zev's accent is Italian... at least he says something in Italian by the end of the game... and Banderas is spanish... very "different" languages! Just like Portuguese to all of them! Yet some ppl tends to think they're all the same...

Modifié par RageGT, 22 décembre 2009 - 11:02 .

[bzombo]

threads like these i find highly entertaining, yet painful at the same time. it's a catch-22: silly thread, but brain hurts.

[Leonhartx]

antonio banderas is awesome.