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Lord Aeducan

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Throughout my adventures in Dragon age world, I always wondered what people thought about necromancy. It can't be that bad, it's in one of the four schools though "Raise Skeleton, and Death magic, etc". Blood magic is considered wrong,but your not raising the dead to fight for you. In other universes it is immoral and wrong, such as Elder scrolls. I just wanted to know what people thought the opinions were about. I personally love Necromancy, my heavy armored mage would be lost with out it!

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Well in Elder Scrolls, it depends - Oblivion and Morrowind it was forbidden, though it's tolerated in Skyrim. (Though obviously, I'd imagine many Nords would not be happy with someone fiddling with family crypts, but that's pretty understandable. The outlaw of necromancy died out with the Mages Guild, however)

As for DA lore, this... is a pretty good question.
I want to say that going off with DA2, it's more of less a forbidden art, and the spells in Origins might have been more of a game mechanic (as I can't find any codex files for necromancy in the DA wikia), but... I'm really not sure.

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Lemina Ausa

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Necromancy in DA (its in the codex) is the act of binding fade spirits (or demons) to corpses. I kind of doubt the chantry looks on that favorably, its probably as bad as blood magic to them. And you can't judge that its "ok" to the populace just because you can select the school in the game, you can run around casting blood magic all over and no one bats an eye at it (one of the major flaws in the game, imo).

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Lord Aeducan

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I think that in Dragon age, it originally was one of the four schools, but either malcolm hawke didn't teach this skill, or the chantry must have made it forbidden between the span of dragon age 2. It is also a possibilty That it is not tolerated in the freemarches.

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Lemina Ausa

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It was in one of the 4 schools probably because bioware had nowhere else to put it, they were restricted to 4 spells per specalization and mind control for blood magic is more "evilish", so they put it there. A lot of the spells in the spirit line doesn't really make sense anyway, most of them are totally unrelated to each other.

As mentioned in the codex, undead are spirits of the fade bound to dead bodies, and I'm pretty sure the chantry doesn't look favorably on that.

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Lord Aeducan

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Blood magic is binding a demon to a corpse, but what if you willfully bonded a spirit to a corpse to help you, kind of like Wyyne and the spirit of faith's ability.

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Lemina Ausa

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Justice (in awakenings) is one instance of a "good" spirit bonded to a dead body, however that was forced upon it. Later in DA2 it willingly bonded with anders through a mutual agreement. Honestly I have no idea what the chantry would think of this, but since the chantry seems to always go "noooooo mages bad bad control" I doubt they like the idea. Anders constantly being hounded by the templars doesn't help the case either.

Wynne's one is more of a case where the spirit itself decided to latch onto wynne. Wynne had no part in actually making the spirit bond to her.

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Lemina Ausa wrote...

It was in one of the 4 schools probably because bioware had nowhere else to put it, they were restricted to 4 spells per specalization and mind control for blood magic is more "evilish", so they put it there. A lot of the spells in the spirit line doesn't really make sense anyway, most of them are totally unrelated to each other. 


I dunno. It's all stuff where it makes some sense that the spells involved would require a sapient magical force's assistance, rather than being something the mage could just do on their own. Necromancy and the Walking Bomb stuff especially.

As for the general views towards necromancy... I believe it would probably be frowned upon, most especially because while The Warden uses corpses bound with a benevolent spirit (benevolent as spirits go, I mean),  the typical arrangement is to use a demon. In addition to this being incredibly risky, working with demons seems to require blood magic, which is itself forbidden. So necromancy involving demons (ie the vast majority of cases) is forbidden outright.

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Lord Aeducan

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Very true the Chantry dosen't like anything magical, and Justice would be a better example. Not all Demons are evil though, Pol was quite nice.( Merril's Demon friend)