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[Wayning_Star]

bleck, turned off pod casty thing..gag level reached with english rock band backstageish banter..etc.

[Versus Omnibus]

@BBN: Still wouldn't work without that long-lost battery.

[Atakuma]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

That's not the only thing Mister Casey Hudson said.

Most people with voices do tend to use them more than once.

[Wayning_Star]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

I love it! Now they're acting like they planned the EC all along!

Well, it's entire possible it was.  They DID say they had to rearrange their DLC schedule to give priority to the EC, which implies the idea or concept of an "extended ending" was already on their mind.

They could also be lying, which would be par for the course, considering the talk pre-ME3.

"In Mass Effect 3, the path to victory is less clear at the outset. You wont just find some long-lost Reaper off button." - That's Mr. Casey Hudson, scrah.

That's right! We found a long-lost battery to the Reaper off button.

We found a Reaper off button that you have to shoot to shut off.

nope, they've hemmed that in with the 'inevitable' quotient.. no off/win buttons in evidence..

not that you cannot head canon such...???

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

[Iakus]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

Or they can't hear us over the sound of how awesome they are 

[Versus Omnibus]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

No, people did in fact demand a reunion and blue babies. I think there was even an entire topic about the subject.

[Wayning_Star]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

hmmm, I don't, it's not in my nature to do that with a VG. I just take the face value and deduct my opinion and wait for the next DLC.

Our endings are just that "our" endings.

SO BEIT..lol watchout (Mother Nature) for that green  beam'n stuff..

Edit: (suff added for some reason?)

Modifié par Wayning_Star, 21 août 2012 - 09:02 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

No, people did in fact demand a reunion and blue babies. I think there was even an entire topic about the subject.

Senior moment. I remember some of them with blue babies. I knew they weren't going to give in and rewrite the entire ending.

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

Just one stinking ending alternative out of the bunch. Apparently that was asking too much. It wasn't art. It wasn't angst. It wasn't dark enough.

Six ****ing seconds. I could forgive them. I wouldn't forget, but I could forgive. But Nooooooooooo!

Head canon this:

[Iakus]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Senior moment. I remember some of them with blue babies. I knew they weren't going to give in and rewrite the entire ending.

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

Just one stinking ending alternative out of the bunch. Apparently that was asking too much. It wasn't art. It wasn't angst. It wasn't dark enough.

Six ****ing seconds. I could forgive them. I wouldn't forget, but I could forgive. But Nooooooooooo!

Head canon this:

Clarity and closure?  In a DLC that promised clarity and closure?  Surely you jest!

And btw, I agree with every sentiment in thatpost.  Including the picture

[Versus Omnibus]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

The breath scene can imply Shepard can still do all those things. Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it never will.

[wright1978]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

No, people did in fact demand a reunion and blue babies. I think there was even an entire topic about the subject.

Senior moment. I remember some of them with blue babies. I knew they weren't going to give in and rewrite the entire ending.

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

Just one stinking ending alternative out of the bunch. Apparently that was asking too much. It wasn't art. It wasn't angst. It wasn't dark enough.

Six ****ing seconds. I could forgive them. I wouldn't forget, but I could forgive. But Nooooooooooo!

Head canon this:

Re-union scene would have been ideal but just a simple expansion to show shep being rescued or alive Shep being referneced or reading destroy epilogue. Really anything other than the cheap lack of effort put into high ems destroy in ec.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

The breath scene can imply Shepard can still do all those things. Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it never will.

Grasping for straws?

[Versus Omnibus]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

The breath scene can imply Shepard can still do all those things. Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it never will.

Grasping for straws?

More like moving on. It's what I did after Inception's ending left me hanging.

[AresKeith]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

No, people did in fact demand a reunion and blue babies. I think there was even an entire topic about the subject.

Senior moment. I remember some of them with blue babies. I knew they weren't going to give in and rewrite the entire ending.

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

Just one stinking ending alternative out of the bunch. Apparently that was asking too much. It wasn't art. It wasn't angst. It wasn't dark enough.

Six ****ing seconds. I could forgive them. I wouldn't forget, but I could forgive. But Nooooooooooo!

Head canon this:

Bioware can have my headcanon money instead  lol

[KENNY4753]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

The breath scene can imply Shepard can still do all those things. Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it never will.

Or it could imply that it is shepard's last breath haha

[Versus Omnibus]

KENNY4753 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

The breath scene can imply Shepard can still do all those things. Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it never will.

Or it could imply that it is shepard's last breath haha

That too. It really depends on what you want.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

The breath scene can imply Shepard can still do all those things. Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it never will.

Grasping for straws?

More like moving on. It's what I did after Inception's ending left me hanging.

Did you spend money, time and emotional investment on Inception for years?

[3DandBeyond]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

No, people did in fact demand a reunion and blue babies. I think there was even an entire topic about the subject.

No, they didn't demand anything of the sort.  They did wish for it and ask for it and so on.  But basically what a lot of people merely wanted was some clarity that Shepard was alive and that Shepard and teammates each knew the other was alive.

What a lot of people have talked about was a desire beyond that, but the above sort of thing was the minimum they wished for.  Considering some of the fluff they added in to the whole game and even the dead Shepard endings (with skin flying off and all), one scene showing a reunion would have been nice and truly would have been accepted by most. 

Beyond that people begged for reunion DLC that they would pay for.  And they said what they'd like to see.  Don't confuse demand with asking.  People are not always so nuanced in the way they ask for things and another complaint I have about the podcast is the Jessica Merizan and others here really do seem to lump everyone into one category.

JM says that some people don't explain their criticism and just say they don't like the endings.  Well, did it ever occur to her that it isn't because of the lack of education (that she says is the case), that some people are merely not as eloquent or as expressive as others or they can't even pinpoint what they don't like or know how to say it?  Or that there are a lot of people here from all over the world that don't speak English and don't write English that well because they actually speak a different language?  This really pissed me off in a big way.  How about trying to understand that your "fans" are real people from different backgrounds?

[Grubas]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Grubas wrote...

You can not demand from them to admit this in public. It would mean the game is bad/flawed, which would hit sales. 
Biowares official line is and always was: The fans loved it, and desperately demanded more, which bioware generously delivered, despite certain individuals acting entitled.

In reality they are ashamed that random fanfics provided far better endings, and that people demanded the same level of quality from beginning to the end. 

This statement is so loaded it's spilling over the edges.

Really?  "In reality?"

No, they like what they made, they were fine with out it came out, and while I'm sure the vitrol of the fans got them down, they made the EC to help clarify something for the fans, despite considerable cost to themselves.

This whole "They're actually ashamed/humilitated/unwilling to speak the truth" BS really needs to stop.

So they made the EC out of generosity... Rrrrrrright. Guess we dismissed that claim. if they planned it long time ago there was a time to mention it. This is just damage control dont be naive. In reality.  

[Conniving_Eagle]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Damn that was painful. They still don't get it. After all this time, and all these posts, all these fictional endings we've made that are better (none of which have blue babies), they still don't get it.

I give up.

No, people did in fact demand a reunion and blue babies. I think there was even an entire topic about the subject.

No, they didn't demand anything of the sort.  They did wish for it and ask for it and so on.  But basically what a lot of people merely wanted was some clarity that Shepard was alive and that Shepard and teammates each knew the other was alive.

What a lot of people have talked about was a desire beyond that, but the above sort of thing was the minimum they wished for.  Considering some of the fluff they added in to the whole game and even the dead Shepard endings (with skin flying off and all), one scene showing a reunion would have been nice and truly would have been accepted by most. 

Beyond that people begged for reunion DLC that they would pay for.  And they said what they'd like to see.  Don't confuse demand with asking.  People are not always so nuanced in the way they ask for things and another complaint I have about the podcast is the Jessica Merizan and others here really do seem to lump everyone into one category.

JM says that some people don't explain their criticism and just say they don't like the endings.  Well, did it ever occur to her that it isn't because of the lack of education (that she says is the case), that some people are merely not as eloquent or as expressive as others or they can't even pinpoint what they don't like or know how to say it?  Or that there are a lot of people here from all over the world that don't speak English and don't write English that well because they actually speak a different language?  This really pissed me off in a big way.  How about trying to understand that your "fans" are real people from different backgrounds?

Has she ever heard of Bioware Social Network? This is why I don't like this woman.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Maybe Bioware isn't smart enough to realize what's wrong with the endings. I'm slowly beginning to come to this conclusion.

[Versus Omnibus]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I just wanted that six second breath scene replaced with a reunion cutscene in the EC. That's it. Closure, not implications. They could have done it, too. Easily. It still would have left room for the PTSD drunk Shepard; the indestructible action hero Shepard; the blue babies in the future Shepard; the house on Rannoch Shepard; etc. Someone could still head canon their Shepard having a heart attack and dying if they wanted (since they're clearly in the minority).

The breath scene can imply Shepard can still do all those things. Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it never will.

Grasping for straws?

More like moving on. It's what I did after Inception's ending left me hanging.

Did you spend money, time and emotional investment on Inception for years?

No, but I still love Inception, just like I still love the Mass Effect series.