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[Seival]

AresKeith wrote...

this makes me feel green

Did you actually read the OP? If yes, then say why don't you like the idea, please.

[Samtheman63]

Control

- Reapers and Hasks become independent, and prefered isolation eventually.

THATS A ****ING GREAT IDEA

[Seival]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Control

- Reapers and Hasks become independent, and prefered isolation eventually.

THATS A ****ING GREAT IDEA

Somehow, you forget to copy-paste the other parts of that section:

Control
- Geth are alive.
- EDI is alive.
- The original Catalyst is dead.
- Citadel is a living being with Shepard's personality and memories.
- Most Quarians are unmasked.
- There are large reservations with unsynthesized people/plants.
- Reapers and Hasks become independent, and prefered isolation eventually.

Modifié par Seival, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:21 .

[Seival]

If the new ME game will be really based on inevitable Synthesis, it would be very nice to use much more dream sequences in such game. Maybe even add to the stroy something similar to Fade from Dragon Age games.

Modifié par Seival, 27 septembre 2012 - 09:03 .

[Seival]

Dubozz wrote...

Synthesys is abomination. No thanks.

Abomination is a product of unresolved organic-vs-synthetic problem. For example, Harvest, or war between Quarians and the Geth is an abomination...

...Synthesis is permanent solution, where both sides of the conflict were integrated into the one entity.

[Bill Casey]

This is going to be a war, someday, isn't it?
We're going to have to take up arms so people don't forcibly transhumanate us for our own good...
God dammit...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 27 octobre 2012 - 12:06 .

[Argolas]

Seival wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Synthesys is abomination. No thanks.

Abomination is a product of unresolved organic-vs-synthetic problem. For example, Harvest, or war between Quarians and the Geth is an abomination...

...Synthesis is permanent solution, where both sides of the conflict were integrated into the one entity.

How is Synthesis permanent? Organics still can rise on habitable planets, and they certainly already have in Clusters that are not connected through the relay network. And Synthetic slaves can still be created.

Synthesis alters evolution by force, but nature always finds a way.

[The Night Mammoth]

Seival wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Synthesys is abomination. No thanks.

Abomination is a product of unresolved organic-vs-synthetic problem. For example, Harvest, or war between Quarians and the Geth is an abomination...

...Synthesis is permanent solution, where both sides of the conflict were integrated into the one entity.

So it's basically indoctrination. Everyone is indoctrinated to not have problems with each other. 

[The Spamming Troll]

i just played the part of ME3 on surkesh were padok wilks says something like "we cant dirty our hands in the evolutionary process, because of galactic politics."

made me lol.

[Bill Casey]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i just played the part of ME3 on surkesh were padok wilks says something like "we cant dirty our hands in the evolutionary process, because of galactic politics."

made me lol.

Padok Wiks: "We should let the evolutionary process decide who lives or dies, not galactic politics."


It's in the conversation where he talks of quitting his work evaluating life forms suitable for "uplift". It raised too many questions. And his support for curing the genophage...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:54 .

[clennon8]

Transhumanism/synthesis should be something that happens, not something that is done to people. That is all.

[Seival]

Argolas wrote...

Seival wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Synthesys is abomination. No thanks.

Abomination is a product of unresolved organic-vs-synthetic problem. For example, Harvest, or war between Quarians and the Geth is an abomination...

...Synthesis is permanent solution, where both sides of the conflict were integrated into the one entity.

How is Synthesis permanent? Organics still can rise on habitable planets, and they certainly already have in Clusters that are not connected through the relay network. And Synthetic slaves can still be created.

Synthesis alters evolution by force, but nature always finds a way.

Synthesis is permanent because organics can evolve as far (and as fast) as synthetics now (if not farther/faster), and are not weaker by default anymore. Organics and synthetics were merged into one entity, no matter they still have some major differences. They are one society now... on molecular and atomic level, if you want. Not because someone tries to keep peace artificially.

Modifié par Seival, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:25 .

[Seival]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Synthesys is abomination. No thanks.

Abomination is a product of unresolved organic-vs-synthetic problem. For example, Harvest, or war between Quarians and the Geth is an abomination...

...Synthesis is permanent solution, where both sides of the conflict were integrated into the one entity.

So it's basically indoctrination. Everyone is indoctrinated to not have problems with each other. 

Synthesis is not indoctrination. You should read indoctrination descriptions, and watch the epilogue more carefully.

[Samtheman63]

Seival wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Synthesys is abomination. No thanks.

Abomination is a product of unresolved organic-vs-synthetic problem. For example, Harvest, or war between Quarians and the Geth is an abomination...

...Synthesis is permanent solution, where both sides of the conflict were integrated into the one entity.

So it's basically indoctrination. Everyone is indoctrinated to not have problems with each other. 

Synthesis is not indoctrination. You should read indoctrination descriptions, and watch the epilogue more carefully.

Reaper "indoctrination" is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds, "reprogramming" the brain through physical and psychological conditioning using electromagnetic fields, infrasonic and ultrasonic noise, and other subliminal methods. The Reaper's resulting control over the limbic system leaves the victim highly susceptible to its suggestions.

Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches and buzzing or ringing in their ears. As time passes, they have feelings of "being watched" and hallucinations of "ghostly" presences. Ultimately, the Reaper gains the ability to use the victim's body to amplify its signals, manifesting as "alien" voices in the mind.

Indoctrination can create perfect deep cover agents. A Reaper's "suggestions" can manipulate victims into betraying friends, trusting enemies, or viewing the Reaper itself with superstitious awe. Should a Reaper subvert a well-placed political or military leader, the resulting chaos can bring down nations.

[Volc19]

I absolutely abhor the Synthesis ending. Not because of IT-sillyness or Catalyst-untrustworthyness, but because I respect life too much. Mordin's comments on the Collectors and stagnation, Padok Wiks's comments on why the Genophage should be cured, and Javik's comments on the cosmic imperative have shown me that evolution is one of the most powerful and most required force in our Galaxy. Promoting stagnation, altering the paths that we would have grown along, and giving every life-form a free pass into perfection devalue the concept of evolution.

In other words, if Synthesis becomes canon I will be a very sad disk operating system.

[Seival]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Seival wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Synthesys is abomination. No thanks.

Abomination is a product of unresolved organic-vs-synthetic problem. For example, Harvest, or war between Quarians and the Geth is an abomination...

...Synthesis is permanent solution, where both sides of the conflict were integrated into the one entity.

So it's basically indoctrination. Everyone is indoctrinated to not have problems with each other. 

Synthesis is not indoctrination. You should read indoctrination descriptions, and watch the epilogue more carefully.

Reaper "indoctrination" is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds, "reprogramming" the brain through physical and psychological conditioning using electromagnetic fields, infrasonic and ultrasonic noise, and other subliminal methods. The Reaper's resulting control over the limbic system leaves the victim highly susceptible to its suggestions.

Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches and buzzing or ringing in their ears. As time passes, they have feelings of "being watched" and hallucinations of "ghostly" presences. Ultimately, the Reaper gains the ability to use the victim's body to amplify its signals, manifesting as "alien" voices in the mind.

Indoctrination can create perfect deep cover agents. A Reaper's "suggestions" can manipulate victims into betraying friends, trusting enemies, or viewing the Reaper itself with superstitious awe. Should a Reaper subvert a well-placed political or military leader, the resulting chaos can bring down nations.

Which means Synthesis is not indoctrination.

[Foxhound2121]

Not only does Synthesis have to rape me...but now it has to rape my game and ending as well? wtf.

[Samtheman63]

Synthesis itself is not indoctrination, they are 2 different concepts

but choosing it means you are indoctrinated

[Foxhound2121]

Seival wrote...

Which means Synthesis is not indoctrination.

How do you get a Krogan to hug a Solarian?

answer: synthesis





Intuitive that there is a problem there and some type of mind changing. Mind control. 

Modifié par Foxhound2121, 27 octobre 2012 - 04:25 .

[Volc19]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Synthesis itself is not indoctrination, they are 2 different concepts

but choosing it means you are indoctrinated [citation needed]

Fixed that for you.

[FOX216BC]

 

[Seival]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Synthesis itself is not indoctrination, they are 2 different concepts

but choosing it means you are indoctrinated

Choosing Synthesis have nothing to do with the indoctrination. Shepard is not indoctrinated in the end, because indoctrinated persons can't be used to create the new Catalyst. Control epilogue shows that successful Control is possible, which means Shepard is not indoctrinated.

[Arathyl]

anorling wrote...


Yeah sorry.... I still remember your post about the Normandy test flight theory and loads of different derpy support threads with ideas probably conceived while stoned on shrooms.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, you say can ever be taken seriously ever again.

LOL

[Seival]

Arathyl wrote...

anorling wrote...


Yeah sorry.... I still remember your post about the Normandy test flight theory and loads of different derpy support threads with ideas probably conceived while stoned on shrooms.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, you say can ever be taken seriously ever again.

LOL

All haters and whiners don't take support threads seriously, but always serious about their own hate. That's why all haters are completely counterproductive. They did nothing good to the community by their hate and whining, and remain on BSN only as annoyance...

...Person, which post you quoted, didn't even read the OP, and admitted it himself. He doesn't even know what OP is about, and still hates it. Why? Because I'm the one who created a lot of support threads, and I'm the one who find the entire ending concept perfect.

Modifié par Seival, 05 novembre 2012 - 01:08 .

[Seival]

clennon8 wrote...

Transhumanism/synthesis should be something that happens, not something that is done to people. That is all.

I'm afraid that such thing can't "just happen". It has to be done to people. And if you don't wanna force anyone, then you can choose Control. Shepard-Catalyst is able to apply Synthesis in much more productive manner than old Catalyst with Shepard's help.

Modifié par Seival, 05 novembre 2012 - 01:17 .