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[Jonata]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Jonata wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

You just now saw Metropolis? Jonata I am disappoint.

EDI is a Pinocchio story.

If you can't get past the way she looks it says a LOT more about you than it does her.

There are a couple of classics that I still have to see, but I'm working on that. I'm actually reading the Sight & Sounds updated chart to see what are the next missing movies I absolutey have to see. 

Good job, anyway, Taboo. We do not always agree but you said exactly what I wanted to say in a lot less words.

Oh that's a fun list. But I'm certain you've already seen 8 1/2.

You can always ask me too if you'd like. I'm always willing to give film recommendations. And that offer extends to everyone here.

I've already seen almost everything from Fellini's filmography. Actually, IIRC, my first experience with his works was at like 10 years old when I found an old VHS version of "Amarcord" amongst my father's things. 

Thanks but you don't have to worry. Feel free to send me some titles if you want but I'm already looking for classics all over the internet. Next step: Kurosawa! 

(now back on topic!) 

[7he Island Head]

shepdog77 wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

You didn't address the biggest issue with EDI. She has a ******. She is practically a talking fleshlight for Joker. This is disgusting. I never go to the front of the Normandy because of her.

How'd that moderator application go? 

72 hour ban and the  mod in question said "Good luck with that."
When I told him that the people have spoken...


Anyway. I chose the destroy ending to rid the world of EDI

Modifié par 7he Island Head, 19 août 2012 - 04:43 .

[Baa Baa]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Who even wanted EDI as a squadmember? I can guarantee you the majority of fans would've preferred one of the ME2 squaddies, like Thane or Legion. Sad thing is that all of the ME2 characters got the short end of the stick in ME3.

Hell yes!

[Sousabird]

I just think it would have been better if she stayed incorpeal just my prefrence

[hostaman]

robertthebard wrote...

There's lots of EDI hate on the boards, until somebody says they chose Destroy, then it's "But you killed EDI".

Speaking as one of the on average 500 people that respond to polls here, I wouldn't want any more involvement from ME 2 squaddies than we currently get, so she didn't steal any spots on my team that could have been better filled by somebody else.  Depending on Shepard's class, my most used squad would be Garrus/Liara/Tali any way.  Subbing for whether I've picked them up yet or not.

The cameltoe arguement is totally juvenile, since you really have to be focusing on it.  That says a lot more about the commenters than the subject.  It took me a couple of days to actually notice it after I read about it, and frankly, I'm a dirty old man.  If seeing naked, or mostly naked pixels, or polygons was all that necessary, I'd go play the Conan MMO.  I do wonder, however, how many of the people complaining about cameltoe were busy asking for more nudity in a Rated M game.  I'd go check the DA O forums, but frankly, I'm far too lazy.

The fact is, it's more about "I wanted squaddies from ME 2" than "she's overly sexualized".  However, people will grab onto whatever they can if they think it gives them a stronger case.

I fully agree with the first part of your argument, and a lot of the postings seem pretty juvenile to me also.

However, I still think the design is over sexualised, but I also think the same of Ashley and Liarra.In this way I think game makers are behind the curve, and gamers would be much more recpetive of more natural female depictions.

I can say this as I did like having EDI as a squad mate, but wish she was a bit less of a walking sex doll.

[Mike 9987]

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Metropolis is a great movie.

[coles4971]

What do you mean "in 2012"? Sex sells. It always has and that will never change.

[Jonata]

Eloise K wrote...

Jonata wrote...

 

Ps: it's funny how you choose this particular picture as an example, a picture of  an over sexualised (pose, boobs) Maria, since in the movie she looks like this



Disprove EDI's over sexualisation providing as a proof a pic of an over sexualised Maria. Seems legit.

Don't get me wrong, I like EDI, but I hate that in 2012 game devs still need cheap tricks to get some people's attention.

I used that picture because I thought it was awesome, not because it was over sexualised. Also, my point is that BioWare is not using EDI's body as a cheap trick to get people's attention. That's exactly what oversexualized characters do. 

[7he Island Head]

Jonata wrote...


I used that picture because I thought it was awesome, not because it was over sexualised. Also, my point is that BioWare is not using EDI's body as a cheap trick to get people's attention. That's exactly what oversexualized characters do. 

They cool thing about opinions is that everyone can have one! Some people even have wrong ones!!!

[Stabby Badger]

 I liked EDI, her dialog was pretty hilarious.  She really wasn't anymore "sexualized" than any other female squad member from ME2/3.  Besides, has no one here seen what her voice actress looks like?  I wanted ME2 squaddies as much as anyone, but EDI was an interesting and unique choice for ME3.
I still killed her in my ending though. 

[Brovikk Rasputin]

It was not EDI's body, it was Dr. Eva Core's body. Of course she was built with a good looking body. Her mission was to infiltrate the facility on Mars ffs!

[SpamBot2000]

robertthebard wrote...

The cameltoe arguement is totally juvenile, since you really have to be focusing on it.  That says a lot more about the commenters than the subject. .

Uh, so seeing the juvenile detailing BW did on the design is somehow wrong now? 

Damn kids with their eyesight and bad manners... 

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 19 août 2012 - 05:38 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

The cameltoe arguement is totally juvenile, since you really have to be focusing on it.  That says a lot more about the commenters than the subject. .

Uh, so seeing the juvenile detailing BW did on the design is somehow wrong now? 

Damn kids with their eyesight and bad manners... 

It's not Bioware's fault for eliciting a response to a provocative design decision!

It's the fans fault for being immature!

[o Ventus]

EDI is still decent as a character, it's just her status as a squadmember that pisses me off. As a show of hands, who was asking for EDI to be on Shepard's squad?

The ****** doesn't really bother me, since I never have EDI wear the suits.

[elitehunter34]

I honestly have absolutely no problem with the appearances of the females in any of the games. Are the breast sizes a little on the ridiculous side? I would say yes. Did EDI really need to be given a body that looks like that? No, but the females in the game are for the most part excellent characters so I don't give a damn if they are easy on the eyes. Judging EDI by her looks alone is a pretty damn shallow thing to do.

However, what does bug me is that the armor that the females get is an absolute joke. The way it accents their breasts and conforms to their shape exactly makes me cringe every time I see it. Armor doesn't work like that. Ever seen a female soldier in full gear?



There's one. If you looked at her from 20 or 30 feet away you wouldn't even be able to tell that she's a female. This would be 10x as true if it was using the kind of armor they wear in the Mass Effect universe. It wouldn't be skin tight. Skin tight armor isn't armor at all. It would be too thin to be even called armor. That has been a problem since Mass Effect 1 and it's only gotten worse. Liara and Miranda don't even wear armor into battle. It's pathetic. It's one thing that just endlessly bugs me, and so many developers do it. The only game I can think of that makes male and female armor identical in all cases is Dark Souls.

I'm fine with them wearing skin tight clothing or revealing clothing on the Normandy, but when they are going into battle they should be wearing full gear that is identical to male armor. There wouldn't be male and female armor. Just armor, and by doing that the series would not only would it be more realistic, but it would also cut development time by not having to model both.

Modifié par elitehunter34, 19 août 2012 - 05:51 .

[Peranor]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

The cameltoe arguement is totally juvenile, since you really have to be focusing on it.  That says a lot more about the commenters than the subject. .

Uh, so seeing the juvenile detailing BW did on the design is somehow wrong now? 

Damn kids with their eyesight and bad manners... 

It's not Bioware's fault for eliciting a response to a provocative design decision!

It's the fans fault for being immature!

Indeed. robertthebard really hit the nail on the head with his deep insight and well thought out analysis.

[robertthebard]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

The cameltoe arguement is totally juvenile, since you really have to be focusing on it.  That says a lot more about the commenters than the subject. .

Uh, so seeing the juvenile detailing BW did on the design is somehow wrong now? 

Damn kids with their eyesight and bad manners... 

The fact is, I had to look to see it, even after I knew it was there.  However, since people are taking the time to point out that it's so distracting, perhaps they should put a sign that says "Eyes up here"?  Frankly, all the women I know IRL would slap the taste out of somebody's mouth for spending that much time staring at their crotch.

[Peranor]

robertthebard wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

The cameltoe arguement is totally juvenile, since you really have to be focusing on it.  That says a lot more about the commenters than the subject. .

Uh, so seeing the juvenile detailing BW did on the design is somehow wrong now? 

Damn kids with their eyesight and bad manners... 

The fact is, I had to look to see it, even after I knew it was there.  However, since people are taking the time to point out that it's so distracting, perhaps they should put a sign that says "Eyes up here"?  Frankly, all the women I know IRL would slap the taste out of somebody's mouth for spending that much time staring at their crotch.

Fact is. Bioware put it there, even though it wasn't necessary in any way to do so.
So who is more juvenile? The guys who took their time to put it there or the guys noticing it was put there.


And don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those people who have a problem with how EDI looks like or that she has a ******. But I can still question the necessity of giving EDI a ******.
And I even if Bioware themself hadn't said so, it's quite clear that EDI was deliberately (over?)sexualized.
As I said, I'm fine with it. But I'm not stupid and/or blind. Again, it's clear why they chose to do what they did with EDI's looks. There is no point in trying to deny that.

Modifié par anorling, 19 août 2012 - 06:10 .

[Mythanblood]

robertthebard wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

The cameltoe arguement is totally juvenile, since you really have to be focusing on it.  That says a lot more about the commenters than the subject. .

Uh, so seeing the juvenile detailing BW did on the design is somehow wrong now? 

Damn kids with their eyesight and bad manners... 

The fact is, I had to look to see it, even after I knew it was there.  However, since people are taking the time to point out that it's so distracting, perhaps they should put a sign that says "Eyes up here"?  Frankly, all the women I know IRL would slap the taste out of somebody's mouth for spending that much time staring at their crotch.

Funny thing, I discovered the cameltoe totally by accident, the same way I discovered the vagina of the Banshee. EDI and the Banshee both decided to suddenly stand in my way while I was sniping. It's like they wanted me to see their lower regions. Almost like hookers.
And I have almost no problems with her new body. Except that she endangered the whole ship by taking control of it without telling anyone about it because she thought it was "unnecessary". What the **** is with the logic of AIs these days?!
I also don't like her new pinocchio-like storyarc.

Modifié par Mythanblood, 19 août 2012 - 06:16 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

Let's face it. Bioware like boobies. Or maybe as they became more experienced as a developer they realized their sales would increase if their games had more boobies.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Bungie did the same thing with Kat in Halo:Reach.