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Regarding all the EDI hate on the BSN


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Fact is. Bioware put it there, even though it wasn't necessary in any way to do so.
So who is more juvenile? The guys who took their time to put it there or the guys noticing it was put there.


And don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those people who have a problem with how EDI looks like or that she has a ******. But I can still question the necessity of giving EDI a ******.
And I even if Bioware themself hadn't said so, it's quite clear that EDI was deliberately (over?)sexualized.
As I said, I'm fine with it. But I'm not stupid and/or blind. Again, it's clear why they chose to do what they did with EDI's looks. There is no point in trying to deny that.


^This ends the thread.

Modifié par Eloise K, 19 août 2012 - 06:18 .


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There's hate?

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Let's face it. Bioware like boobies. Or maybe as they became more experienced as a developer they realized their sales would increase if their games had more boobies.


the way I understand it is "sex sells" 
thats how most companies do things i think

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bungie did the same thing with Kat in Halo:Reach.


Yeah, I know what you mean.
Kat always did run around in a skintight bodysuit with stilletos, a visible cameltoe, big boobs and long flowing hair- Oh wait, no she didn't.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bungie did the same thing with Kat in Halo:Reach.


wut

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I don't hate her.

Don't know what all the fuzz is about though.
At ME1 BSN ****ed about Kaidan, ME2 about Harbinger and Jacob and now people are ****ing about EDI.

If there's so much time to do all this ****ing their lives must be pretty miserable. It's even on par with the Apple / Samsung war on the certain forums.

Excuse me, but I'm just gonna bang the misses now. have fun on the internet.

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Mythanblood wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bungie did the same thing with Kat in Halo:Reach.


Yeah, I know what you mean.
Kat always did run around in a skintight bodysuit with stilletos, a visible cameltoe, big boobs and long flowing hair- Oh wait, no she didn't.

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So sexy :o

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The "She's not oversexualized" bit ends with the cameltoe. Have you seen it? It's just silly.

Also, my dislike for EDI in ME3 is more about how she's barely the same character from ME2. Her characterization puts her in the middle of a "I'm a real girl now!" story that I just found to be trite, even moreso when Legion betrayed his character to become an individual. It doesn't lead me to think of Synthetic life as valid, as the writers intended, because all I see is the emulation of organics. EDI 2.0 drives the point home, with her human-esque body and newfound human emotions.

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7he Island Head wrote...

Mythanblood wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bungie did the same thing with Kat in Halo:Reach.


Yeah, I know what you mean.
Kat always did run around in a skintight bodysuit with stilletos, a visible cameltoe, big boobs and long flowing hair- Oh wait, no she didn't.

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So sexy :o


The best part? People genuinely find her attractive and do like her. And that without her having the body of a pornstar. ;)

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Stabby Badger wrote...

 I liked EDI, her dialog was pretty hilarious.  She really wasn't anymore "sexualized" than any other female squad member from ME2/3.  Besides, has no one here seen what her voice actress looks like?  I wanted ME2 squaddies as much as anyone, but EDI was an interesting and unique choice for ME3.
I still killed her in my ending though. :devil:


This ^ , sorry EDI, I chose destroy too.

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tyrvas wrote...

Stabby Badger wrote...

 I liked EDI, her dialog was pretty hilarious.  She really wasn't anymore "sexualized" than any other female squad member from ME2/3.  Besides, has no one here seen what her voice actress looks like?  I wanted ME2 squaddies as much as anyone, but EDI was an interesting and unique choice for ME3.
I still killed her in my ending though. :devil:


This ^ , sorry EDI, I chose destroy too.

I chose destroy because of EDI. I wanted to make Joker cry, so he would get over his disabilities and find a real woman. 

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7he Island Head wrote...

Mythanblood wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bungie did the same thing with Kat in Halo:Reach.


Yeah, I know what you mean.
Kat always did run around in a skintight bodysuit with stilletos, a visible cameltoe, big boobs and long flowing hair- Oh wait, no she didn't.

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So sexy :o


Gears of War has a more mature portrayal of female combatants than ME too.

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Pretty comical how these "lowly shooters" that a segment of BSN's population looks down upon don't channel Itagaki-level juvenile portrayals of women like their "high brow" game does.

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I liked EDI in ME2, but using her as a squadmate felt forced to me.

Also, the fact that she takes up a slot that could've gone to a ME2 character grates of the nerves of many (myself included).

I understand why it was done, but I don't have to like it.

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7he Island Head wrote...

tyrvas wrote...

Stabby Badger wrote...

 I liked EDI, her dialog was pretty hilarious.  She really wasn't anymore "sexualized" than any other female squad member from ME2/3.  Besides, has no one here seen what her voice actress looks like?  I wanted ME2 squaddies as much as anyone, but EDI was an interesting and unique choice for ME3.
I still killed her in my ending though. :devil:


This ^ , sorry EDI, I chose destroy too.

I chose destroy because of EDI. I wanted to make Joker cry, so he would get over his disabilities and find a real woman. 


I chose destroy because it's what I intended to do since ME1.

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Mythanblood wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bungie did the same thing with Kat in Halo:Reach.


Yeah, I know what you mean.
Kat always did run around in a skintight bodysuit with stilletos, a visible cameltoe, big boobs and long flowing hair- Oh wait, no she didn't.

I believe Bungie did, it just isn't on the same scale as EDI.  The fact that Kat has defined hips and a waist to seperate her as a female (good god when Reach came out the file browser was overflowing with zoomed in pictures of Kat's ass) is still in my eyes as sexualization.  Kat's armor should be identical in proportion to a male's armor.  Bungie made male and female armor identical in single player and multiplayer until Halo: Reach.

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"EDI's body needed to be sexy" -- says so right in the Art of Mass Effect Universe.

Not trying to be a hater (I actually loved her character development in both games), but come on, let's be real here. 


I actually explained that she indeed was designed to be attractive. But she was not designed like that to appeal on players. 

I know it may sounds silly, but believe me it is part of her character development. Read what I wrote down up there, and go see Metropolis if you have the time. Being attractive can be essential to sheape her point of view on organics.

I was in a hurry earlier, so I couldn't elaborate, sorry 'bout that.

Anyway, yes, I did read your OP, but I still don't see why EDI had to have huge boobs and a ****** for her character development. She could have been attractive and sexy without going overboard. For once, BioWare had a chance to design a female LI who wasn't meant for Shepard (=players) and thus didn't have to conform to conventional beauty/hotness standards (I don't think Joker would have minded something more modest), yet they still chose to take the easy way out and gave us a sex bot. And that's what's disappointing.

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Seboist wrote...

Gears of War has a more mature portrayal of female combatants than ME too.

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Pretty comical how these "lowly shooters" that a segment of BSN's population looks down upon don't channel Itagaki-level juvenile portrayals of women like their "high brow" game does.


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elitehunter34 wrote...
 Bungie made male and female armor identical in single player and multiplayer until Halo: Reach.


While you are right and Bungie did to some extent sexualize Kats armor (though I call it feminising in that case :lol:), I am sorry to correct you but Reach was the first Halo game with female spartans.

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I like EDI and hate the fact that i have to kill her in only option i can choose. And i hate Catalyst.
Both are described as AI,both represent different things.

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Wasted a perfectly good Miranda/Thane/Anyone spot on EDI.

Only used her once.
And that was because I didn't have a damn choice.

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I remember a picture.

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I liked EDI her appearance didn't bother me in the least.

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I don't think EDI is over-sexualised. The previous controller of that body was an infiltrattion unit. Having attractive qualities would make men like her more, and thus less likely to question her actions. It's a perfect disguise. I think it's fine, because it has it's explanation in the story.

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Mythanblood wrote...

elitehunter34 wrote...
 Bungie made male and female armor identical in single player and multiplayer until Halo: Reach.


While you are right and Bungie did to some extent sexualize Kats armor (though I call it feminising in that case :lol:), I am sorry to correct you but Reach was the first Halo game with female spartans.

Technically Halo 3 did because you could make your multiplayer voice female.  It would just make the death grunts from a female voice actor instead of a male one.  It's all that needed to be done.  Male and Female Spartan armor is supposed to be identical.

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 To anybody complaining about overly sexualized women in what are supposed to be space suits and combat armor:

http://en.wikipedia....e_activity_suit 

That's the premise most science fiction space suits work on, as I understand it, from the Halo universe's Mjolnir armor to hardsuits from the Mass effect world. Even the space suits in Deadspace are supposed to be suits based on mechanical pressure regulation.

Ever play 1 as a dudeshep in light armor? You like some rich old WASP's pool boy in space.

Pretty much the idea is that a tight-fitting suit uses elastic compression to regulate pressure on your body, as opposed to conventional designs like the ones we see NASA using that have to be inflated. It also makes your suit more comfortable, gives you better ease of motion in combat scenarios, and reduces your frame considerably, meaning you're less limited in access when it comes to tight spaces. Tack on some carbon-fiber armor or whatever they say it is in Mass effect, some electromagnetic boots and backpack, an omni tool, and boom. You have combat armor circa the 2180's.


Also, EDI is clearly retro themed, she reminds me of a 1950's cadillac. Bioware doesn't want anyone getting all hot and bothered all over a toaster, her "sexiness" is A) Supposed to help her infiltrate a human enviornment like the body was originally designed to do, and B) an homage to the ridiculous fembots of sci fi classics. She may have giant boobs, but every female character in the game does. It's hollywood. Attatched for boob-size reference:

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Looking at that picture, I'm tempted to go back to the Mass Effect 2 forums and see how many people complained about Samara. Talk about oversexualized, that Asari added absolutely nothing to the game BUT boobs.

But back on topic, I don't know why she's green, but you'll notice she has no camel-toe, just a seam down her torso, and that "seams" (haha, puns are fun!) to reinforce what I've always believed, that when she dons the bodysuit she's just the victim of some unfortunate wrinkle gathering in an area where the fabric is stressed and regularly resituated from both sides by a good deal of motion, i.e. walking, similar to how the front of your pants will sometimes camel hump outwards when you sit, seemingly mimicing a certain male function.

In short, people resent a naked fembot because its nudity is overly sexualized, despite the fact that it was designed in universe to be sexually appealing to humans to psychologically aid in the infiltration process and that it's naked because it's a robot and doesn't need clothes. Seems like a well thought out dislike.

I mean, jesus. How many of you people complained about battle droid d*cks?
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