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Steve Cortez will feature heavily in Leviathan


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Drewton wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Because wanting someone for not sharing the same opinion isn't insecure...

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Deal with it.

 
And anything pro-gay or anti-religion I see on here is insulting to my Catholic faith.

See what I did there? Or does is not work both ways?


Ah, of course. We're allowed to be horrible to certain groups of people if it pleases whatever imaginary friend(s) we believe in.

FYI, Andrew Sullivan is a devout Catholic and openly gay. OMG no.

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Lord_Frostwind wrote...

Can we all agree on one thing? At least the token gay love interest had more depth than the token lesbian love interest. Though I am planning on setting up "Toothbrush Traynor" with "Deception Leng" those two are made for each other.

Still though, got a little tired of him. "My husband is dead." "Yeah, I get it, my whole family got bombed by Batarians on Mindoir, the galaxy is damn depressing place." At least the ME2 crew members wanted revenge and I got to blow stuff up to help them through their personal problems.



No Traynor had a personality at least, she is far from the bottom wrung of characters.

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The Angry One wrote...

Drewton wrote...

And anything pro-gay or anti-religion I see on here is insulting to my Catholic faith.

See what I did there? Or does is not work both ways?


Last I checked, gay Catholics exist.


Last I checked, most of the pro gay people in my mainly Catholic country are... surprise... catholics.... like on Spain or Argentina... mainly Catholic countries with same sex marriage...

And of course, let's not bring the facts that other animal species also display homosexual behaviour... cause... you know... facts are pesky lil things, right?

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Drewton wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Drewton wrote...

And anything pro-gay or anti-religion I see on here is insulting to my Catholic faith.

See what I did there? Or does is not work both ways?


Last I checked, gay Catholics exist.

Pro-gay lifestyle Catholic doctrine does not.

Can we steer this conversation back on topic?


What is" pro-Gay lifestyle"? :blink:

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Drewton

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Ravensword wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Because wanting someone for not sharing the same opinion isn't insecure...

Forum rules wrote...

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Deal with it.

 
And anything pro-gay or anti-religion I see on here is insulting to my Catholic faith.

See what I did there? Or does is not work both ways?


Ah, of course. We're allowed to be horrible to certain groups of people if it pleases whatever imaginary friend(s) we believe in.

Who's been horrible to certain groups of people in this thread?

Who's the one mocking someone's beliefs?

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I see the Bigotry Brigade crusaders are out right now.

Don't bother, drewton. If you don't like Cortez on this forum and think he's a stale character, you are a bigot. That's it.

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Good for Steve. He's a good guy. Him and Traynor are the only personal my Shepard will keep when he takes the Normandy from the alliance.

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ForceXev wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

ForceXev wrote...

I can see how people who went with the Steve romance would not see Steve as a "minor" character as I described him, but the problem is that Steve only becomes a significant character if you romance him. Think about what the character would be like if he could not be romanced at all. Basically a nobody. Just another wallpaper character like Kenneth and Gabriela... actually even less relevant than them because they at least have been around since ME2.

The problem here is that Bioware put the gay romance into a character with absolutely no development at all other than the romance story, making him seem like a major character to gay players but a completely empty character to straight players. Now he's featured in a DLC, and that may be great for gay players but straight players are like "Who? Him?"


What are you talking about? His entire story is avaidable regardless of romance, you have to opt into the romance in the club, everything up to then had been his personal story. His development arc is about him moving on, in the club you can help him mobe on by being his lover or his friend/support. He is featured in a large majoirty of missions and is definatkey not a wallpaper character.


Well, it may seem that way to you, but unfortunately from a straight gamer's perspective the romance starts way before that, especially considering how "accidental romance" is known to happen in other Bioware games.  So the straight gamer doesn't go to the club with Steve, doesn't offer a shoulder for him to cry on, or any of that.  It's basically, "Oh your husband died?  That sucks bro.  So how's my shuttle?"

I agree he does have a line or two on some of the missions, so maybe that makes him a little more relevant than Gabby and Kenneth, but not much.


But straight gamers help steve aswell, being a kind supporting person has non connection to sexuality, if you choose not to follow a characters story arc then it's you problem, but to consider yourself the mouthpiece for all straight gamers is idiotic

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Drewton wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Because wanting someone for not sharing the same opinion isn't insecure...

Forum rules wrote...

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Deal with it.

 
And anything pro-gay or anti-religion I see on here is insulting to my Catholic faith.

See what I did there? Or does is not work both ways?


Ah, of course. We're allowed to be horrible to certain groups of people if it pleases whatever imaginary friend(s) we believe in.

Who's been horrible to certain groups of people in this thread?

Who's the one mocking someone's beliefs?


Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

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Drewton

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Ravensword wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Drewton wrote...

Because wanting someone for not sharing the same opinion isn't insecure...

Forum rules wrote...

There is a zero tolerance policy on any form of abuse towards staff, moderators or other Community members.Content that is insulting to anyone based on gender, lifestyle, religion, ethic group, race etc. is unacceptable and will be deleted without warning. Anyone posting a personal attack on staff, moderators or other Community members will, at the sole discretion of staff or moderators, be banned from the BioWare Social Network without notice and is no longer welcomed.


Deal with it.

 
And anything pro-gay or anti-religion I see on here is insulting to my Catholic faith.

See what I did there? Or does is not work both ways?


Ah, of course. We're allowed to be horrible to certain groups of people if it pleases whatever imaginary friend(s) we believe in.

Who's been horrible to certain groups of people in this thread?

Who's the one mocking someone's beliefs?


Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

Same to you.

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No longer game related.

End of line.