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[Ziegrif]

synapsefire wrote...

Wtf is a support class?

The guy keeping your arse alive

How the hell has this thread gotten past 10 pages?

Dood didn't shoot that many things explaining the score.

Scores ain't rocket science people!

[nicethugbert]

I play mostly Platinum Glacier Cerberus and if I don't play demolisher, we mostly likely fail to complete wave 10 objective, often failing long before wave 10. I routinely score 30k to 60k, sometimes 100k. I'm often the lowest scoring member, while someone, sometimes everybody else, is scoring over 100k, even if someone else is playing demolisher, even if we don't have any infiltrators or destroyers.

Yet, without me playing demolisher, we can't succeed. I, the lowest scoring team member, am carrying the team because without whatever it is that I'm doing right despite my **** scores, we can't succeed. This is the case regardless of what classes the rest of the team is playing or who scores over 100k, etc.

[nicethugbert]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Speedruns on Platinum with a set map and enemy =/= random PUG's on U/U/G.

Why is that hard to understand?

Becuase carrying is only possible on PUG UUG?

[Blind2Society]

I top the scoreboard a lot and often by a lot all while doing objectives and reviving. However, that doesn't always mean I carried the team. Sometimes I do but most of the time I'm probably just making the game go faster. The others probably would have completed the match just fine without me, just slower.

And honestly, I couldn't care less if I'm carrying or not. I just try to do my best every game and if the others are doing the same, I'm cool with it, regardless of their scores.

[SupidSeep]

Air Quotes wrote...

See here I felt I was carrying, even
though my teammate scores are alright. Why? Because none of them used
rockets, while I had to use 3 of mine, they were bleeding out and not
helping with objectives

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I don't see a gold "50 Assist" medal on anyone; no disrespect intended, I assume you're left to frag the majority on your own.

As
a support player (Human Engie / Turian Sentinel / Asari Justicar), 50
Assist shows up very consistantly on my score after a complete Gold
game.  In good cooperative PUG team games that my team completes or at
least finish Wave 10, 50 assists has a better than even chance on
showing on all four players' medal list.

Modifié par SupidSeep, 24 août 2012 - 11:49 .

[ValorOfArms777]

Phrozzy wrote...

waltervolpatto wrote...

Find another lobby....

I rarely play infiltrator and when I do I'm at the bottom of the list...

But often with the 15 revive medal...

If you're going to word it like that, it has to be on a meme.

 I made a meme though I'm not 100% sure if it's greatest incarnation

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 24 août 2012 - 12:03 .

[ValorOfArms777]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

That's funny...

When I play as an infiltrator in PUG's I usually get the 15 revive medal AND top the list. Why do people think you cannot revive quickly AND kill enemies...? My strategy for most revives:

1. Cloak out of LoS
2. Run past everything
3. Res team-mate
4. Fire prox mine before cloak turns off after revival
5. Murder everything that was near team-mate while cool-down on cloak is happening
6. Cloak and run off to murder other things/revive other people if necessary

Thats plausable too for your play style but not all our playstyles are killer types and depends on the infil notice I used the Quarian? thats one of the few that can't really always top the board 

and who cares about toping score this is about the joke on 15 revivle medals is a sign of a team that falls too much

[synapsefire]

QFI is not underpowered. You have the best power in the game. Slap on a Claymore and you have a Quarian Wrecking Ball with great CC and utility. Denial is a form of self-preservation. You can keep telling yourself stories but in the end you are only deluding yourself.

nicethugbert wrote...
I post numbers and no one finds any meaning in them. Typical.

I saw the numbers but I have no idea what you are trying to say.

nicethugbert wrote...

Yet, without me playing demolisher, we can't succeed. I, the lowest scoring team member, am carrying the team because without whatever it is that I'm doing right despite my **** scores, we can't succeed. This is the case regardless of what classes the rest of the team is playing or who scores over 100k, etc.

Truthfully it sounds like the demolisher is the only character you can play so your team can get the bare minimum contribution from you to succeed. No disrespect, thats just what it sounds like. The fact that you turn it around painting yourself as the carrier is a sure sign of someone in denial.

Modifié par synapsefire, 24 août 2012 - 12:49 .

[ValorOfArms777]

Me I'm just having fun cause you know

when I reach 5 revive medals I'm scared the team sucks >_>

when you reach 10 you go "HOW are we alive?"

15 ...what the **** were you doing? and how are we STILL here?

20 ..wait there is no 20! you bastards STOP DIEING!

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 24 août 2012 - 01:02 .

[Omnis Malficius]

synapsefire wrote...

garf wrote...

This entire conversation makes me glad glad I uninstalled origins back in april. MP has become way too serious business to sound remotely fun to me.

It really isn't. I don't think people in general give a crap about points, and people PuG Gold regardles of skill. There are very few occasions of "leeching". People getting caried though is another story, but those people "try". I can only speak for myself but anyone "trying" are more than welcome in my lobby.

To the OP, props for doing what you thought was viable for contributing towards a common goal, the quest to unlocking that new character card or that elusive weapon. To those that spoke against you, all that I could understand was, "Me, me, me, blah, blah, me, blah, blah"! 
Seriously, way too many ego-maniacs for a non competetive MP game. 

[Sabbatine]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

synapsefire wrote...

Wtf is a support class?

Female Quarian Infiltrator spamming sabotage that is set up for recharge rate is not going to score a ton of points.

Of course not, neither will someone playing with their feet.  Just because you can do something stupid doesn't mean you should do something stupid.

[upinya slayin]

Sabbatine wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

synapsefire wrote...

Wtf is a support class?

Female Quarian Infiltrator spamming sabotage that is set up for recharge rate is not going to score a ton of points.

Of course not, neither will someone playing with their feet.  Just because you can do something stupid doesn't mean you should do something stupid.

Thats not stupid at all. a FQI spamming sabotage will wipe out tons of things, They just don't get points for it.

[Richter Harken]

upinya slayin wrote...

Thats not stupid at all. a FQI spamming sabotage will wipe out tons of things, They just don't get points for it.

Don't mind control kills, weapon feedback kills and sabotage explosion kills still appear in the killfeed and grant score?

[upinya slayin]

Richter Harken wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Thats not stupid at all. a FQI spamming sabotage will wipe out tons of things, They just don't get points for it.

Don't mind control kills, weapon feedback kills and sabotage explosion kills still appear in the killfeed and grant score?

backfire kills don't give you points. look at the link in my sig for the all sabotage game. we beat a gold and nobody scored over 16k (we got points for objectives and for beating gold and for full extraction and revives) but you'll see no kills or assists and about 300k of points that we didn't get becuase it doens't count them

Also the killfeed remains blank all agme. only time it gets a kill is if a hacked unit kills soemthign. backfire kills net you nothing

Modifié par upinya slayin, 24 août 2012 - 07:11 .

[Richter Harken]

upinya slayin wrote...

backfire kills don't give you points. look at the link in my sig for the all sabotage game. we beat a gold and nobody scored over 16k (we got points for objectives and for beating gold and for full extraction and revives) but you'll see no kills or assists and about 300k of points that we didn't get becuase it doens't count them

Also the killfeed remains blank all agme. only time it gets a kill is if a hacked unit kills soemthign. backfire kills net you nothing

Well, that's .... i was gonna say weird, but buggy is probably a better word.
Well, nice to know

[upinya slayin]

Richter Harken wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

backfire kills don't give you points. look at the link in my sig for the all sabotage game. we beat a gold and nobody scored over 16k (we got points for objectives and for beating gold and for full extraction and revives) but you'll see no kills or assists and about 300k of points that we didn't get becuase it doens't count them

Also the killfeed remains blank all agme. only time it gets a kill is if a hacked unit kills soemthign. backfire kills net you nothing

Well, that's .... i was gonna say weird, but buggy is probably a better word.
Well, nice to know

its a wierd game mechanic for sure but the thread gave me some good laugh for all the people that didn't know that

[Richter Harken]

upinya slayin wrote...

its a wierd game mechanic for sure but the thread gave me some good laugh for all the people that didn't know that

Yeah, I'm just thinking it's a bug, because it makes no sense from a developer's perspective to have an ability that kills stuff, but then not award you the points, or even list you in the killfeed, especially considering it goes through the trouble of listing mind-controlled flunkies kills as yours

[Iniquus]

My cents:

1) I don't care how low your score is, if you can contribute without bleeding out on every wave, you're welcome in my games. I regularly pull 80-100k, but I definitely don't think I'm anything special. I know there are people a LOT better than me.

2) It's a GAME for crying out loud. If I can't enjoy it because some jerk thinks he or she is God's Gift to Gaming, either I'm leaving the match, or booting them if it's my lobby.

3) After a match like that, I'd want the OP to add me to his friends so we could play another day.

4) Sometimes people need to just do the objectives, and not just because they think they're special for doing them. When no one does them because they want kills, it can screw the game. I've lost so many games because it was an arming objective and no one would do them but me as something like a soldier while the infiltrators camped the other side of the map for kills.

5) This is the most important part to me. Even IF he was being carried, those of us who are better players should help others improve. First, because it's a nice thing to do. Second, because it's a co-operative MP, not PVP. And third, because the better the player pool, the better for everyone for MP Weekends.

Modifié par Iniquus, 24 août 2012 - 08:12 .

[Cr4sh Dummy]

I'd take teamwork over stats any day

[Arppis]

Most of the time score just means you were the most efficent killer. I'll take teamwork over these scoremongerers anyday.

When you need to resurect someone many many times, that's when you are carrying the team or teammate. If the guys stay alive and don't die too often, help with objectives and generaly are helpful, it's not carrying.

And this is a game. Not work.

Modifié par Arppis, 24 août 2012 - 08:30 .