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He outscored you, simply because he could kill faster or finish enemies faster than you. If you were intentionally acting as support instead of artillery, that's normal. You weren't carried.

Also, Geth Infiltrators and Furies (played by competent players of course) are hard to outscore.

But yeah, ignore the idiots.

This. The GI is a killing machine so generally they will score the highest. But as Nissun wrote, you were mainly playing support, so your score is going to be low. This doesn't mean you were carried. ^_^


Even playing support you should score at least 75-90k on Gold easily. OP, was this a pre-select map? 

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33k is too low for any Piranha user... still, seems like you were the only decent teammate there. 

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Arc Pistol. You joking right?


The Arc Pistol is a very good weapon, y'know.

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Lathrim wrote...

33k is too low for any Piranha user... still, seems like you were the only decent teammate there. 

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Arc Pistol. You joking right?


The Arc Pistol is a very good weapon, y'know.


He shoul've taken a Carnifex. Also he has a Harrier. 

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Lathrim wrote...

33k is too low for any Piranha user... still, seems like you were the only decent teammate there. 

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Arc Pistol. You joking right?


The Arc Pistol is a very good weapon, y'know.

Say that to the Carnifex

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You weren't...

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...but only because you took initiative with the objectives.

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It's really hard for any of us to comment, because - we weren't there. That said, if the OP is representing the facts correctly, yes, he had a low score, but he was still contributing. The GI in the match seems to have made a (very insulting) judgement call based on the score alone, but we all know the score doesn't tell the whole story.

It's easy to snatch the top spot with an Infiltrator. We all know that.

At the same time, OP: it's also fair for folks to make comments about how to raise your score, or to question your loadout. Most folks would expect a Paladin to score well against Geth, since Energy Drain would work on everything, and they're better prey for the Snap Freeze / Shield Melee than Cerberus and Reapers.

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Lathrim wrote...

The Arc Pistol is a very good weapon, y'know.


For petty theft and ding dong ditching perhaps.

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Lathrim wrote...

33k is too low for any Piranha user... still, seems like you were the only decent teammate there. 

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Arc Pistol. You joking right?


The Arc Pistol is a very good weapon, y'know.

Say that to the Carnifex


The Carnifex being better doesn't mean the Arc Pistol is bad. Which is what you implied.

Air Quotes wrote...

Lathrim wrote...

33k is too low for any Piranha user... still, seems like you were the only decent teammate there. 

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Arc Pistol. You joking right?


The Arc Pistol is a very good weapon, y'know.


He shoul've taken a Carnifex. Also he has a Harrier. 


Never said t'was the best choice.

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Air Quotes wrote...

He shoul've taken a Carnifex. Also he has a Harrier. 


Some people are more comfortable with some weapons than with others... :innocent:

*Trying to hide the fact that I just scored last on a Gold match using Turian Soldier with a lvl 4 Harrier... on my favorite map.*

:crying: My ego...

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One of the problem is that the shield is bugged against the geth. Primes and Hunter shoot through it. I have played the N7 paladin enough now to know one thing.

The more you use your shield, the more you're useless to the team.

It's very true on pug. There isn't any teamwork. You'll find yourself defending nobody really often. Only use the shield to protect if your sure at 200% that it will benefit someone.

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It seems a bit silly to argue that the Carnifex (or Paladin) are the only pistols worth taking. Yeah, they're good, and possibly the best on paper - but that's on paper.

I know folks who don't like the delay between shots, and prefer a spam-click weapon like the Phalanx or...yes, the Arc Pistol. The Arc Pistol used to be garbage, but it's been buffed enough that it's worthwhile these days.

It's possible the OP could have performed better in the match, but I don't know how helpful it is to say 'lol, using Arc Pistol? You're doing it wrong'.

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33k is rather low, you'd have to have at least 15 revives and even then I often get that many while also topping the scoreboard (playing as a Paladin, which is my new favorite character) so you sound as though you were indeed carried, you have to kill more things (at least 50k) or you weren't contributing enough to say you weren't carried (IMHO).

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waltervolpatto wrote...

Find another lobby....

I rarely play infiltrator and when I do I'm at the bottom of the list...

But often with the 15 revive medal...


Really? Cause a shadow can top the list by spamming shadow strike while still reviving (not much skill needed)
the GI always tops the list (most damabe output in game)
and the QMI (arc grenades + indra) puts out serious damage as well.

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Air Quotes wrote...

KAM12780 wrote...

Nissun wrote...

He outscored you, simply because he could kill faster or finish enemies faster than you. If you were intentionally acting as support instead of artillery, that's normal. You weren't carried.

Also, Geth Infiltrators and Furies (played by competent players of course) are hard to outscore.

But yeah, ignore the idiots.

This. The GI is a killing machine so generally they will score the highest. But as Nissun wrote, you were mainly playing support, so your score is going to be low. This doesn't mean you were carried. ^_^


Even playing support you should score at least 75-90k on Gold easily. OP, was this a pre-select map? 



yes

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Oh well, 33k might be a bit low, but hey, not  everyone has the Image IPBstaminaImage IPB to play 18 hours a day straight and come up with a 150k score.

Unfortunately, some of us can't help but get out once in a while...

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Paladin ED/SF seriously tagging alone nets over 50k. I scored 88k last time I played geth on gold and I was doing all the objectives and on rear guard duty.

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SKhalazza wrote...

One of the problem is that the shield is bugged against the geth. Primes and Hunter shoot through it. I have played the N7 paladin enough now to know one thing.

This is a good point - I think the fact Hunters seem to send their shots round the shield is pretty confirmed by now. I'm not sure about Primes, though - I can't really tell if it's the Prime shooting through the shield, or his Geth Turret that's popping me from another angle. And I don't shieldtank often enough to really be certain.

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No video proof of them going down and you reviving them a lot also no video proof of you being the only one doing objectives.

No evidence from either side so no way to tell either way.

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Lathrim wrote...

33k is too low for any Piranha user... still, seems like you were the only decent teammate there. 

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Arc Pistol. You joking right?


The Arc Pistol is a very good weapon, y'know.

Say that to the Carnifex

Some people use the odd weapons so BioWare won't see that other good weapons are being used a lot and nerf them as well ...... So by using the Arc pistol the poster is saving the Carnifex from the Nerfbat BioWare loves to use. :whistle:

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Well i agree the guy who said that is a jerk and it was uncalled for, In teh same sense I do feel like you didn't pull your weight in that game. Not saying you are a bad player or anything, just in that game you didn't pull your weight/ any class with a pirhanna can top a scoreboard easily. I don't even use the pirhanna anymore unless i'm on platinum. I beat out a pirhanna GI last night with a Krogan Vanguard using the Talon. Love the talon and Wraith on the kroguard.

Anyway even with 15 revives still I don't get how you could score that low and feel you puled your weights. Thats only (lets say 20) 2 per wave each taking a few seconds? What were you doing the rest of the time? As a paladin you could have wiped out boss units by yourself. Snap freez debuff to armor+ Pirhanna = dead atlas, banhsee, prime etc.

So in short I agree with the fact it seems you didn't carry your weight, but don't agree with the guy being a jerk about it.

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WaffleCrab wrote...

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33K is kind low, the pally with the piranha can do better but get over it find a new lobby


actually the way he explained it, he played defensively, its not all too common for me either to have a score around 30-40K on gold with paladin when i play defensively, yet people thank me left and right and give different kinds of blessings for the freeze shield.

He's still using the piranha on dagger which means that he's in the middle of the action or should be meaning that he's not camping the comm tower room, there are so many points out there to be had its not funny.  I can't think of a class where you could score 30-40K and not be carried, maybe an adept that's detonating everything for a priming adept but if you are doing a decent job at that you are going to score at least 60-75K in assist points. 

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30K is a little low, but honestly as long as you were attempting to help with objectives and help revive it shouldnt matter. And no matter how hard you try it is really hard to outscore a competent GI

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Glucose77777 wrote...

Oh well, 33k might be a bit low, but hey, not  everyone has the Image IPBstaminaImage IPB to play 18 hours a day straight and come up with a 150k score.

Unfortunately, some of us can't help but get out once in a while...


Right, because if you can't score 150K in a match then obviously the people that can have to be playing the game night and day because you're just as good as them!

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Air Quotes wrote...

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33 is low. Reviving is no excuse for that.






i was mainly using snap freeze and my shield to distract the heavy hitting primes and hunters 


33k with a Paladin VS Geth is even worse. Sorry. Paladin with Piranha is a beast. 100k guaranteed. 

OP, you can also safely ignore elite attitudes like this.

If the GI was the only one alive during certain waves, then s/he 'carried' you, otherwise ignore the score-above-all caring idiot.

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Paladin? Pirahna? Why didn't you just go full Rambo and started to kill things? (Geth as enemy is no excuse)

Sounds to me like you let your teammates do all the work.