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Can someone explain how I was just carried?


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#51
Papa5murf

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I would never kick a low scoring player. In fact i would welcome them with open arms, coz it means more points for me!
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dumdum2

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Kyrene wrote...

OP, you can also safely ignore elite attitudes like this.

If the GI was the only one alive during certain waves, then s/he 'carried' you, otherwise ignore the score-above-all caring idiot.


Spoken like a real bronze player :D

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SKhalazza

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...
Say that to the Carnifex

Yes, the arc pistol has just better burst and substain DPS now....

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Stealthy Mantis wrote...

I just finished a firebase Dagger, Geth, Gold, was bottom of the score board with 33k, top had 105k but was using GI. I was using Paladin with arc pistol and Piranha, i constantly was reviving the two others in the game and was most of the time only one doing objectives. on the nonobjective waves i consistantly was taking fire from the primes, hunters and rocket troopers while allowing the others to get behind them. Yet at the end of the match the GI has the nerve to plug him mic in and tell me to get lost as he didnt want to carry my lazy backside any more. 

Can someone please tell me how i was just carried?


How long were the matches?  If they were more than 28 minutes then you were probably not helping much.  Regardless, I'm sorry to hear you were having problems with your GI.

I played four or five Gold matches with low scoring people yesterday.  Two of them with people who were clearly anchors; we failed to get to wave 10 at least  once because they sucked.  Each had scored below 20K.  One was a destroyer.  :o/  Shout out th le_kitten for being a solid teammate on an otherwise bush league team.

But the third low scoring guy was playing a salarian engineer and his decoy was always in the right place to rez or do an objective.  Used his mic occasionally too.  I was surprised at the end of the match that he was the low scorer at around 30K.  He must have been using an Eagle.

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 20 août 2012 - 03:53 .


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Ronnie Blastoff

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As long as people look at the scoreboard for indication other than a leecher, people will have problems. The *^(*& scoreboard is broken, wake the hell up! Either way, a GI can't say he carried anyone. Using god mode and claiming you are superior in anyway is no different than a retard that just happen to have access to a nuclear weapon and just happend to save the day with it. At the end of the day...they're still retarded.

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Pichsterz

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The scoreboard does not tell the whole story. As long as you get 50 assist or 25 kills + 25 assist medal, you're doing fine OP. You were using some bad weapons on Dagger map, unless you're playing cqc the Piranha is useless and I don't even need to mention the Arc Pistol, lol.

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Tallgeese_VII

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If you didn`t die every wave and helped with the objectives and reviving, you didn`t leech. Especially so if the game finished under 30 minutes. Those guys who sent you the messages are tota losers who can say those things only in video game. They are most likely sorry lazy asses.

You know yesterday I randomly got dropped in a Gold Rio Cerberus game with my Quarian Male Engineer unsuspectedly. There was a Shadow doing nothing NOTHING but Krysae shot. I felt like she was seriously leeching. The match took 40 minutes and it started from wave 3 for me. + They were trying to defend the center room..

Modifié par Tallgeese_VII, 20 août 2012 - 03:54 .


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lazysundae

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The other 2 guys were dead much of the time, and they still were able to outscore you? And on gold with so many big enemies, AND doing the objectives (which you would have gotten points for), that means you got 15-20 kills. On a difficulty that can have that many big enemies on a single wave, that is terribly low.

It can be tricky playing a support character, mainly because your team HAS to feel supported, and it won't necessarily show on the scoreboard at the end. If your support was "taking fire" and people were STILL dying all over the place, AND you weren't getting kills, then I can see how the rest of the team felt you didn't have something to offer to that particular group.

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DHKany

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find a new lobby, without idiots.

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Yigorse

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If what you say is true, and you were having to revive your team left, right and centre then it's true that they hardly carried you.

That said. 33k? The paladin can do better. If your team is dying that much, then you're far better to leave them be and kill the surrounding enemies, rather than try to revive them. I've had games where it felt like I did nothing BUT revive my imbecilic team-mates, and I steam managed to out-score the lot of them.

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Tallgeese_VII

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If there are 2 GIs with massive DPS and you decide only to support them, your score can be quite low. I am really interested in how long the match took. It is also possible reckless GIs dying so many times doing their rage dump on other players.

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Equinoxe4

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I've played gold matches where some players did well less than 30k and I still did not feel I did carry anyone. If they do not die a lot and I do not have to waste consumables because I get swarmed due to your lack of killing/occupying enemies and you help with the objects, I did not carry ****, I just killed a few more bad guys.

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Sousabird

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If you were anything other than a paladin I could understand. I did Gold with a paladin(farming) and I got over 100k without using me gun for half the kills. We have this power called energy drain, it anniahlates Geth.

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You were carried because you got 33k.

15 revives is all well and wonderful, but how many of those revives wouldn't have been needed if you'd actually been killing things? My guess? Half of them. Utility isn't needed in this game. DPS is. As such you failed.

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Acyl wrote...

It seems a bit silly to argue that the Carnifex (or Paladin) are the only pistols worth taking. Yeah, they're good, and possibly the best on paper - but that's on paper.

I know folks who don't like the delay between shots, and prefer a spam-click weapon like the Phalanx or...yes, the Arc Pistol. The Arc Pistol used to be garbage, but it's been buffed enough that it's worthwhile these days.

It's possible the OP could have performed better in the match, but I don't know how helpful it is to say 'lol, using Arc Pistol? You're doing it wrong'.


It is indeed silly. By that logic let's all take the same guns and classes, they should become a mandatory uniform.

I don't care if the Carnifex is "better" than the Arc Pistol, I like the Arc Pistol more and feel much more comfortable with it, hence why I actually use that one, whereas the Carnifex is just collecting dust.

As for the OP.... lol, score. I've had games in which I've doubled or nearly tripled someone's score and I wouldn't say I "carried" those players because they still helped a lot. If I don't find myself constantly reviving you and you help during objectives, I'll never see that as "carrying".

Heh, I remember one game where the other players mostly stuck to kiting banshees away from me and doing objectives while I was the one doing all the killing comfortably. Scoreboard may have said one thing but I knew better.

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Golvellius

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Loose the arc pistol and piranha.
Both are horrible weapons.
Try Geth Shotgun, way better.
That being said my average score is 30-50k on Gold.
If I get higher than that then that's because the game went to pot and I had to run around solo.

Modifié par Golvellius, 20 août 2012 - 04:15 .


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TobiasFunke

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OP you played poorly in the match. TBH having 33k in a gold game is the result of you not doing enough, period. I don't blame anyone calling you out on it. Anyone telling you otherwise are bad players themselves and are just reinforcing bad playstyles. If you listen to them you will never get better and keeping making reassurance threads like this.

Just as score is not the end all be all of skill, having the 15 revive medal is not the end all be all that you were a good team player. Anyone can hide, do nothing, and get 15 revives and claim that they were helping the team.

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Stealthy Mantis

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lots of people have said that i should loose the arc pistol but if i put the same mods on any of the other pistols i have, the arc has higher DPS, because of the low levels of my Carnifex and Paladin

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TobiasFunke wrote...

OP you played poorly in the match. TBH having 33k in a gold game is the result of you not doing enough, period. I don't blame anyone calling you out on it. Anyone telling you otherwise are bad players themselves and are just reinforcing bad playstyles. If you listen to them you will never get better and keeping making reassurance threads like this.

Just as score is not the end all be all of skill, having the 15 revive medal is not the end all be all that you were a good team player. Anyone can hide, do nothing, and get 15 revives and claim that they were helping the team.


The problem with this line of thought is that it if the guy getting 15 revives is instead dead 4 or 5 times or the guy doing all the objectives goes on the offense and does not make them a priority then you get a wipe, not team success.  There is a fine line between getting 'enough' kill points and dying several times.  If the player in question had 55-60 thousand but died 4 times, only rezed twice and ignored one or more objective rounds would the team be better off or not?

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Skullheart

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Ypu play on 360, what were you expecting?

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Some people are way too score-obsessed. They often don't realize that support characters don't get the big score because they were too busy DOING THEIR F-ING JOB.  It's cool though. I'm not bitter.... ;)
Best to just move on and find some better people to play with my friend. 

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OblivionDawn

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33k with a Paladin and a Piranha?

You were carried.

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robarcool

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GI can do a whole lot of more damage than any other class (destroyer included). It was the class, not the player. It is one of the few classes I use on Platinum and actually, I have stopped using it for gold.

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with the piranha you shouldve gotten a higher score. you cant play defensively with that weapon. sucks to say this but you def got carried

Modifié par rdnanez, 20 août 2012 - 04:39 .


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33k, on Dagger? Hmm..

Yeah that map is a sniper's haven. If you weren't playing aggressively by ramboing the bottom parts of the map, you likely weren't hitting crap w/ ur Pirahna or Snap Freeze or shield melee. If the GI or another player were sniping most the mobs before they could get close to the upper deck then there's not much left for you to do. If that's how it went then there's no surprise ur score was that low. Sounds like you needed to rambo more and use ED more.

But anyways, was the team getting overrun constantly? If so then ur partly to blame. If not then there's no real issues since you completed the match just fine.

If I only got 105k for a full match as a GI I wouldn't say I was good enough to have been 'carrying', since damage is mostly what a GI 'does' for a team, but eh we all have our own standards.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 20 août 2012 - 04:42 .