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Bioware could remake ME3

Débuté par Justin2k , août 20 2012 07:08

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#101
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Posté 24 août 2012 - 11:25

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J. Reezy wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

Ah. Yet another entitled fan who thinks the team at Bioware have nothing better to do with their lives than spend years recreating a game for ungrateful and picky people with their bottomless budget.

Get over it and play something else.

Indeed. BioWare isn't the only "RPG" developer.


I agree with both statements. For example I myself am playing some Diablo3 and Fallout Tactics. Will be back playing ME3 when Leviathon DLC comes out and after that back to Skyrim for while waiting for the new X-Com remake of Enemy Unknown and other kickstarter/lower budget titles to come out. Dead State, Banner Saga, Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition, Xenonauts and Wasteland 2 just to name a few of the many interesting games coming out or being developed. As always said, gaming is a hobby not an oxygen supply; play something that find fun and if something is not fun for you then play something else. Even if play for escapism, then escape into another game or book instead if current one does not float your boat.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 24 août 2012 - 11:29 .

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 11:29

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Remaking ME3 would be a bad idea on many levels that others have already stated.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 11:33

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Somewhere in EA headquaters....

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Is this the kind of thing people really believe? Because super villans will never remake that game for you! Haha

Modifié par billy the squid, 24 août 2012 - 11:37 .

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 11:36

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If they ever intended to make ME3 better we wouldn't have gotten the crap they released initially. Besides there are other games to play...

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 11:49

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Ok, I'm going to say this - it's not aimed at anyone and I apologise if I offend anyone.

At the end of the day, Bioware is a BUSINESS If they want to release DLC at opportune moments so be it! I for one, am just grateful to have it. If it wasn't for them you wouldn't even have these games and characters to obsess over. You can complain that without us, they wouldn't have a franchise or whatever but as hard as it is for you to believe, there are people out there who actually enjoy the games - they just don't seem to makes as much noise as those who don't.

Try focusing what they have given us, lets say - a cupcake - enjoy it for what it is, instead of turning your nose up at the colour of the icing. When did gamers become so entitled to believe they can affect the outcome of a game and/or company? I find it utterly ridiculous. I can understand you're passionate about it - I love the games too, but honestly If you don't like it, stop giving the rest of us a headache and just enjoy your own head-cannon. Write your own ending in fanfic or something.

These people are just regular people with a job to do and guess what? They're also passionate about their games and their characters. They have put their heart and soul into creating something for us to enjoy, and in the grand scheme of things I think it's a little rude for things to have gone to the extremes they have.

Modifié par ThePinkFoxx, 24 août 2012 - 11:51 .

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 12:11

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They didn't have to work several weeks to create the FREE Extended Cut DLC, or give us FREE multiplayer DLC, or spend so much time putting together these event weekends which reward the entire community. But they did. Bioware has been way too good to us that a lot of people must really be spoiled to still be complaining about anything other than technical issues. This story, these characters, these games are not yours, they are Bioware's and what happens with them is their say, not yours. So don't make these ridiculous demands of them because it is simply insulting. They gave you this series to enjoy, and if there is something about it you don't like that's your problem, not theirs.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 12:16

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ThePinkFoxx wrote...

These people are just regular people with a job to do and guess what? They're also passionate about their games and their characters. They have put their heart and soul into creating something for us to enjoy, and in the grand scheme of things I think it's a little rude for things to have gone to the extremes they have.


I think it's more than a little rude to make promises and then not keep them. To say over a period of 7 years that ME was going to be something it ended up not being in the end. To sell out and pander to a potential new audience over appealing to the fans and throw out almost everything that was good about a series for the sake of $$$.

What BioWare has done is nothing less than a betrayal. It happened with Dragon Age 2, and it's happened with Mass Effect as well. If there's passion at Bioware and they put their heart and soul into it, I'm not seeing it any more. All I see is cold, methodical, mechanical games genetically engineered for mass appeal. I don't see the love and care put into BioWare's new games, at least not on a gameplay design level.

I used to get that from their games before, and it made them seem less like games and more like an immersive experience. It's what used to set them apart from other developers. But ME2, DA2 and ME3 all lack that. They feel cold and manufactured. Now it's all about getting the casual and mainstream gamer, even if it means stabbing your old fans in the back and spitting on your existing IPs before you twist them into the abomination they now become... kind of like LotR's Sauron and Saruman creating Orcs, Uruk's and other fell beasts from that which was once good.

WazzuMan wrote...

They gave you this series to enjoy, and if there is something about it you don't like that's your problem, not theirs.


So by that logic if BioWare were to eat expired feta cheese and then barf it into the Mass Effect 3 boxes and that was what we got, it would be our fault and not theirs?

Or, for a less extreme example, if they were to give us something along the lines of E.T. The Extra Terrestrial, Shaq Fu, Superman 64, etc. it would be our fault and not theirs?

No. They are the ones responsible for creating the game, not us. They are the ones who should have made it live up to the promises they made and kept it true to the original source material. We're the ones who are affected by their mistakes. Blaming the customer in a case like this is like blaming the customer for eating a meal they thought was going to be good after they die of food poisoning instead of the resturant.

Here's a fun game to see what's wrong with what BioWare did that should make anybody understand:

Name Something You Are a Fan Of:
Name Something You Hate Strongly:

Now imagine that that Something You Are a Fan Of slowly becomes Something You Hate Strongly to the point where almost everything you loved about the former is replaced by the very things you hate about the latter, just because the people making it feel that more people are interested in the Something You Hate Strongly and it'll sell more.

That's what's wrong with BioWare lately.

Modifié par Terror_K, 24 août 2012 - 12:30 .

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 12:49

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compares mass effect with expired feta cheese ...

often great artists arent understood in their time

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 12:56

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Terror_K wrote...

ThePinkFoxx wrote...

These people are just regular people with a job to do and guess what? They're also passionate about their games and their characters. They have put their heart and soul into creating something for us to enjoy, and in the grand scheme of things I think it's a little rude for things to have gone to the extremes they have.


I think it's more than a little rude to make promises and then not keep them. To say over a period of 7 years that ME was going to be something it ended up not being in the end. To sell out and pander to a potential new audience over appealing to the fans and throw out almost everything that was good about a series for the sake of $$$.

What BioWare has done is nothing less than a betrayal. It happened with Dragon Age 2, and it's happened with Mass Effect as well. If there's passion at Bioware and they put their heart and soul into it, I'm not seeing it any more. All I see is cold, methodical, mechanical games genetically engineered for mass appeal. I don't see the love and care put into BioWare's new games, at least not on a gameplay design level.

I used to get that from their games before, and it made them seem less like games and more like an immersive experience. It's what used to set them apart from other developers. But ME2, DA2 and ME3 all lack that. They feel cold and manufactured. Now it's all about getting the casual and mainstream gamer, even if it means stabbing your old fans in the back and spitting on your existing IPs before you twist them into the abomination they now become... kind of like LotR's Sauron and Saruman creating Orcs, Uruk's and other fell beasts from that which was once good.

WazzuMan wrote...

They gave you this series to enjoy, and if there is something about it you don't like that's your problem, not theirs.


So by that logic if BioWare were to eat expired feta cheese and then barf it into the Mass Effect 3 boxes and that was what we got, it would be our fault and not theirs?

Or, for a less extreme example, if they were to give us something along the lines of E.T. The Extra Terrestrial, Shaq Fu, Superman 64, etc. it would be our fault and not theirs?

No. They are the ones responsible for creating the game, not us. They are the ones who should have made it live up to the promises they made and kept it true to the original source material. We're the ones who are affected by their mistakes. Blaming the customer in a case like this is like blaming the customer for eating a meal they thought was going to be good after they die of food poisoning instead of the resturant.

Here's a fun game to see what's wrong with what BioWare did that should make anybody understand:

Name Something You Are a Fan Of:
Name Something You Hate Strongly:

Now imagine that that Something You Are a Fan Of slowly becomes Something You Hate Strongly to the point where almost everything you loved about the former is replaced by the very things you hate about the latter, just because the people making it feel that more people are interested in the Something You Hate Strongly and it'll sell more.

That's what's wrong with BioWare lately.


Christ, if you hate them that much, why don't you get off their forum and find another game to play? Because NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. To put it bluntly;  all your complaining isn't going to get you anywhere. Surely that should be evident from the fact that people have been doing this for months? Isn't that a clue? They've done what they can to make things better and still people aren't happy.
You think you have all these rights as a consumer. It's laughable.

#110
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Posté 24 août 2012 - 01:03

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off topic, The title for the thread is "Bioware could remake ME3" but your asking us would we want a new ME3.

LOCKDOWN!!!

#111
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Posté 24 août 2012 - 01:07

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It costs only like 10-100 million for EA, sure they will...

...nope, not gonna happen.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 01:12

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Could they? Yes.
Will they? No.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 01:34

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Darth Death wrote...

Could they? Yes.
Will they? No.


Should they? Absolutely not.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:09

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DuckSoup wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Could they? Yes.
Will they? No.


Should they? Absolutely not.

Hey you guys get your own responses! I ninja'd you guys!

Modifié par J. Reezy, 24 août 2012 - 02:09 .

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:25

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I can't believe people are still complaining about this game. What's weird is how ridiculously well made it is.

What's really weird is how so many people think that they were entitled to a game with their vision in mind.  Erm, no, it's THEIR game, their baby, not yours. 

They didn't make that game with your taxes.

They made it with their money.

Then you guys chose to buy their product.  You know, after it was made.  They made a product, the IP of which they own, not a service for a client they had a contract with. 

Modifié par AwesomeName, 24 août 2012 - 02:38 .

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:32

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^ wear glasses.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:38

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mauro2222 wrote...

^ wear glasses.


You wear glasses lolz.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:41

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^I wear glasses for seeing far away and wear them frequently, so funny how ME3 is still absolutely, almost flawless. Sure the ending could have been better, but thats like letting that one small banana ruin the bunch of big bananas. Don't like the small banana? Ignore it and gob on the big bananas instead. Simple as that.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:42

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AwesomeName wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

^ wear glasses.


You wear glasses lolz.


No need, I have 10/10 vision.

You... don't seem to have that kind of vision. "Ridiculously well made" implies that animations at least work well, which they don't.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:45

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mauro2222 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

^ wear glasses.


You wear glasses lolz.


No need, I have 10/10 vision.

You... don't seem to have that kind of vision. "Ridiculously well made" implies that animations at least work well, which they don't.

Don't forget about that superb import system. It worked so well my Shepard had to change his/her faces.

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:47

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 A better thread title would be:

Bioware should remake ME3

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:48

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mauro2222 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

^ wear glasses.


You wear glasses lolz.


No need, I have 10/10 vision.

You... don't seem to have that kind of vision. "Ridiculously well made" implies that animations at least work well, which they don't.


Oh you're being LITERAL - truth is I have it pretty well in perspective that the overall story and how it was told was really well done.  You know, the storyboarding, the acting, the music, the CONCEPT, was indeed very well put together - in a way that you don't often see in games.  It was easily one of the most well written, cinematic and dramatic video games I've ever played.  I think it's sad how so few people can see that because they didn't like the ending. 

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 02:56

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I didn't mention the ending, the whole game suffers from bad writing and inconsistency between chapters because they can't write an story from the beginning to the end before they are in the middle of the developing process. Animations are horrible, the transition makes my eyes bleed, and that is just one technical problem. Acting, yeah, sorry I was trying to match the sound with the lip movement...

They have great actors and great music, but that's it. Be honest and don't say "ridiculously well made". I can see the pros, but fans can't see the cons in anything. That's why people sound so pessimistic, because no matter how much people try to improve things by telling them how bad it was, you have the rest of them telling them that it was ok because they were "emotionally engaged".

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 03:00

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mauro2222 wrote...

I didn't mention the ending, the whole game suffers from bad writing and inconsistency between chapters because they can't write an story from the beginning to the end before they are in the middle of the developing process. Animations are horrible, the transition makes my eyes bleed, and that is just one technical problem. Acting, yeah, sorry I was trying to match the sound with the lip movement...

They have great actors and great music, but that's it. Be honest and don't say "ridiculously well made". I can see the pros, but fans can't see the cons in anything.


Oh look at that!  You're telling me to agree with you!

*Puts on sunglasses*

Ridiculously.  Well.  Made.

YEEEAAAHHHHHH!!!!

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Posté 24 août 2012 - 03:03

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This game isn't a £10 chicken plate that you ordered in a restaurant. Sure, in a restaurant if the chicken was undercooked, you could complain and send it back without any fuss. You would be within your rights as a paying customer to do that.

If it's just about personal taste, however, they aren't going to recook your meal or give you a refund. In a restaurant you can't send it back because you don't like it. That's your problem not theirs.

So what makes you think you're entitled to a brand new version of a multi-million dollar game because you didn't like the way it turned out? Plenty of other people are fine with the game. What happens to those people if you stamp your feet and get it changed to suit you? Does their opinion not matter? I mean, they experienced all the same things is you but through a different perspective. That makes their opinion less valid than yours?
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