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[puppy maclove]

Even if they wanted to, I think BW know how... so sadly NO.

[Marauder Shieldz]

DrwEddy wrote...

IT WOULD BE IF THEY ADD A REUNION SCENE! >:-[

This. For the past 5 ****in months.

I really don't think Bioware care any more tbh. Theres still truckloads of people like me who still think the endings are disappointing, to say the most, tolerable.

Theres other aspects of the game that let it down like War Assets, Auto-Dialogue, Fetch Quests, and the Journal.

Like the majority of people who left ages ago, i'm just losing faith in Bioware every day. They know what let the game down. They knew and still know what the fans want. They just don't care. They'd rather go blame the fans, claim theres nothing wrong with Space Magic or Starchilds and then try justify it with the EC. 

And thats what the EC was. Look at the BSN poll. 70% or whatever said the endings needed to be COMPLETELY changed. 20% said more closure, less plot holes etc. And 10% said the endings were fine.

EC was the final stab at the fans. You hate the endings? "OK, lets add an epilogue and keep the core aspects there, to try justify our crappy endings. YEAH."

Bioware, after ME3 is all over, you'll be lucky to have any fans left.

Modifié par Marauder Shieldz, 21 août 2012 - 11:36 .

[I am Sovereign]

 

[BD Manchild]

Not without completely changing the ending and a fundamental rewrite in certain other areas.

[N7 Shadow Liara]

Nope! it's too late! they've screwed up with the last game and there is no possible salvage for this!

[Apocaleepse360]

I know a lot of people are going to start quoting me like mad because of me saying this, but...

If BioWare made a conventional victory possible and added in scenes of your massive fleet kicking the Reapers back into dark space, then yes, ME3 is completely salvagable. Especially if their future DLC added in extra scenes of the war assets gained in that particular DLC.

Come on, a conventional victory may not be realistic, but it's better than what we have now. And having a 10 man squad charge in guns blazing into a base swarming with Collectors wasn't exactly realistic either, but guess what? People enjoyed the endings they could get and the consequences they could face if they made the wrong decisions.

People should also take a look at the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Remember that final battle where Beckett had gathered a massive fleet that could easily wipe out every pirate within just a few hours? Well, if you remember Elizabeth refused to stand down and flee and instead chose to take a stand, despite being heavily outnumbered and outgunned. Look how that turned out. Call it unrealistic, and I'm probably going to get flamed for daring to bring up a Disney film, but the fact remains that it was a pretty epic conclusion in my opinion.

[I am Sovereign]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

I know a lot of people are going to start quoting me like mad because of me saying this, but...

If BioWare made a conventional victory possible and added in scenes of your massive fleet kicking the Reapers back into dark space, then yes, ME3 is completely salvagable. Especially if their future DLC added in extra scenes of the war assets gained in that particular DLC.

Come on, a conventional victory may not be realistic, but it's better than what we have now. And having a 10 man squad charge in guns blazing into a base swarming with Collectors wasn't exactly realistic either, but guess what? People enjoyed the endings they could get and the consequences they could face if they made the wrong decisions.

People should also take a look at the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Remember that final battle where Beckett had gathered a massive fleet that could easily wipe out every pirate within just a few hours? Well, if you remember Elizabeth refused to stand down and flee and instead chose to take a stand, despite being heavily outnumbered and outgunned. Look how that turned out. Call it unrealistic, and I'm probably going to get flamed for daring to bring up a Disney film, but the fact remains that it was a pretty epic conclusion in my opinion.

[Marauder Shieldz]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

I know a lot of people are going to start quoting me like mad because of me saying this, but...

If BioWare made a conventional victory possible and added in scenes of your massive fleet kicking the Reapers back into dark space, then yes, ME3 is completely salvagable. Especially if their future DLC added in extra scenes of the war assets gained in that particular DLC.

Come on, a conventional victory may not be realistic, but it's better than what we have now. And having a 10 man squad charge in guns blazing into a base swarming with Collectors wasn't exactly realistic either, but guess what? People enjoyed the endings they could get and the consequences they could face if they made the wrong decisions.

People should also take a look at the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Remember that final battle where Beckett had gathered a massive fleet that could easily wipe out every pirate within just a few hours? Well, if you remember Elizabeth refused to stand down and flee and instead chose to take a stand, despite being heavily outnumbered and outgunned. Look how that turned out. Call it unrealistic, and I'm probably going to get flamed for daring to bring up a Disney film, but the fact remains that it was a pretty epic conclusion in my opinion.

[N7 Shadow Liara]

Yeah, it would be awsome, but it's a dream!

[BDelacroix]

In a word. No.

In a few more words. They don't want to. To them, its perfectly fine. It was perfectly fine before. We even have a recent comment that indicates that plot doesn't matter and shouldn't matter to the rest of us.

ME3 is what it is.

[Apocaleepse360]

Wow... I can honestly say that I wasn't expecting people to agree with me, what with the amount of threads about conventional victories not being possible and whatnot lol.

[CronoDragoon]

It doesn't need salvaging. It's a great game. Things could still be improved, to be sure, especially the ending (still). Salvage is too strong, though.

[clarkusdarkus]

salvage it into omni-gel

in all honesty no, it's not....its the end of a trilogy which will have a couple of side-story's of dlc then they'll move on and either do ME4 or something else

MP is the only thing that will keep ME3 going unfortunatly

[KENNY4753]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

salvage it into omni-gel

haha I loved in the first game it would say attempt by pass or slap so me omni gel on it. after I while you dont need to sell weapons for money so just make a crap ton of omni gel

[Conniving_Eagle]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

I know a lot of people are going to start quoting me like mad because of me saying this, but...

If BioWare made a conventional victory possible and added in scenes of your massive fleet kicking the Reapers back into dark space, then yes, ME3 is completely salvagable. Especially if their future DLC added in extra scenes of the war assets gained in that particular DLC.

Come on, a conventional victory may not be realistic, but it's better than what we have now. And having a 10 man squad charge in guns blazing into a base swarming with Collectors wasn't exactly realistic either, but guess what? People enjoyed the endings they could get and the consequences they could face if they made the wrong decisions.

People should also take a look at the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Remember that final battle where Beckett had gathered a massive fleet that could easily wipe out every pirate within just a few hours? Well, if you remember Elizabeth refused to stand down and flee and instead chose to take a stand, despite being heavily outnumbered and outgunned. Look how that turned out. Call it unrealistic, and I'm probably going to get flamed for daring to bring up a Disney film, but the fact remains that it was a pretty epic conclusion in my opinion.

Oh, you mean like this?

"But we want to see it happen in front of our eyes, we want to see our war assets fighting (an epic final battle with Harbinger would also be very nice). We want to see the fleet of council forces going toe to toe with the Reaper fleet, in an incredible Star warsesque clash. We want to see the entire Geth Armada come out of FTL, flanking the Reapers and obliterating several capital ships who are trying to take down the Destiny Ascenscion, and saving it. We want to see Quarian commanders suicide crashing their burning ships into the Reapers, in a last desperate attempt to finish off the enemy, Keelah Se'lai! We want to see Turian fighters, ruthlessly rushing into the fray, dropping nuclear ordinance on capital ships.

Not just in space, we want to see this epic battle unfold on Earth. We want to see tens of thousands of Rachni soldiers swarming a Reaper Destroyer as it helplessly struggles to survive. We want to see Jack and her biotic squad shielding an anti-air outpost from an onslaught of Ravager artillery, so that the outpost can gun down several Harvesters and watch them give out one last guttural scream as they plunge to their deaths. We want to see Grunt charge at a Brute, shouting "I AM KROGAN!!!" as he single-handedly wrestles it to the ground and curb stomps its face into the concrete. We want to see an army of husks rushing a group of powerless Alliance marines who are being overwhelmed. As the marines close their eyes, preparing for the worst, the husks are gunned down by a platoon of Geth Primes. We want to see Liara fighting off multiple Marauders and get saved by a miracle sniper shot from Garrus. We want to see Vega and Ashley/Kaiden back to back, firing off at Cannibals from 360 degrees. We want to see Elcor Tanks relentlessly firing down upon Reapers and decimating them. We want to see Wrex and Wreav taking cover from on-going fire in a trench, then curtly nodding to eachother as they go over the top and lead a battalion of Krogan shocktroopers in a bloodrage battle charge."'


All while playing to some epic song, like Protectors Of The Earth. Like in this video - www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 21 août 2012 - 04:28 .

[StElmo]

IT or another kind of retcon is all that is left.

[Omega Torsk]

Honestly, it shouldn't have been rushed out of the door. And this is coming from someone who was sitting on his haunches waiting in anticipation for March 6th.

Knowing what I know now, it needed another year of work, at least. After Tuchanka, there is a certain unfinished quality about the entire campaign.

But yes, it can be fixed through DLC and maybe even an expansion pack.

[Oni Changas]

dildogun could save it

But the crucible helped ruin it. =(

[mongoosephantom]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

I know a lot of people are going to start quoting me like mad because of me saying this, but...

If BioWare made a conventional victory possible and added in scenes of your massive fleet kicking the Reapers back into dark space, then yes, ME3 is completely salvagable. Especially if their future DLC added in extra scenes of the war assets gained in that particular DLC.

Come on, a conventional victory may not be realistic, but it's better than what we have now. And having a 10 man squad charge in guns blazing into a base swarming with Collectors wasn't exactly realistic either, but guess what? People enjoyed the endings they could get and the consequences they could face if they made the wrong decisions.

People should also take a look at the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Remember that final battle where Beckett had gathered a massive fleet that could easily wipe out every pirate within just a few hours? Well, if you remember Elizabeth refused to stand down and flee and instead chose to take a stand, despite being heavily outnumbered and outgunned. Look how that turned out. Call it unrealistic, and I'm probably going to get flamed for daring to bring up a Disney film, but the fact remains that it was a pretty epic conclusion in my opinion.

Oh, you mean like this?

"But we want to see it happen in front of our eyes, we want to see our war assets fighting (an epic final battle with Harbinger would also be very nice). We want to see the fleet of council forces going toe to toe with the Reaper fleet, in an incredible Star warsesque clash. We want to see the entire Geth Armada come out of FTL, flanking the Reapers and obliterating several capital ships who are trying to take down the Destiny Ascenscion, and saving it. We want to see Quarian commanders suicide crashing their burning ships into the Reapers, in a last desperate attempt to finish off the enemy, Keelah Se'lai! We want to see Turian fighters, ruthlessly rushing into the fray, dropping nuclear ordinance on capital ships.

Not just in space, we want to see this epic battle unfold on Earth. We want to see tens of thousands of Rachni soldiers swarming a Reaper Destroyer as it helplessly struggles to survive. We want to see Jack and her biotic squad shielding an anti-air outpost from an onslaught of Ravager artillery, so that the outpost can gun down several Harvesters and watch them give out one last guttural scream as they plunge to their deaths. We want to see Grunt charge at a Brute, shouting "I AM KROGAN!!!" as he single-handedly wrestles it to the ground and curb stomps its face into the concrete. We want to see an army of husks rushing a group of powerless Alliance marines who are being overwhelmed. As the marines close their eyes, preparing for the worst, the husks are gunned down by a platoon of Geth Primes. We want to see Liara fighting off multiple Marauders and get saved by a miracle sniper shot from Garrus. We want to see Vega and Ashley/Kaiden back to back, firing off at Cannibals from 360 degrees. We want to see Elcor Tanks relentlessly firing down upon Reapers and decimating them. We want to see Wrex and Wreav taking cover from on-going fire in a trench, then curtly nodding to eachother as they go over the top and lead a battalion of Krogan shocktroopers in a bloodrage battle charge."'


All while playing to some epic song, like Protectors Of The Earth (like in this video - www.youtube.com/watch)

If a DLC could add all of the above then it could become salvageable, but a sequel is impossible since there is no canon ending i guess...

[Alizonius]

Harsh word in picture, if you don't like bad words, don't click it, just so I warn you.
But dang, it is so true.
http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

Modifié par Alizonius, 21 août 2012 - 03:33 .

[BonFire5]

Hahehe.

[saracen16]

"Salvageable" assumes that there is something to salvage.

I don't think so. ME3 was amazing, start to finish.

[Oni Changas]

Honestly, I believe the IT ship has sailed. At this point they I would prefer ME3 gets lumped in with Deception and that BW just embrace this game as a dark comedy and parody of Mass Effect. Just add in more ridiculous stuff and go to town with lampooning.

In short:

[jds1bio]

So let me get this straight - you think that ME3 can be salvaged by adding a "conventional victory" endgame? We're still not even sure whether World War II could have been won conventionally or not, and that's just humans against humans, nevermind species-eradicating aliens.

Even after being the victims of TWO atomic bomb attacks, and having a superpower (USSR) declare war and begin a new attack in between those two attacks, Japan was STILL deadlocked on surrendering - they wanted to hold out and see if the surrender would become more favorably conditional, not unconditional as it was. It took the intervening vote of the Emperor (still considered a god-like figure at the time) to break the deadlock, and even then there were talks of coup attempts to prevent the ratification of a surrender vote.

While I'm not defending ME3's ending in its original form, I'm just saying that a late-hour intervention of a god-like figure who ended up changing centuries of "programming" to bring about an ending to a war is not unprecedented in our own history.

[Headcount]

saracen16 wrote...

"Salvageable" assumes that there is something to salvage.

I don't think so. ME3 was amazing, start to finish.

Before or after the EC?