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[RiouHotaru]

It's not. Science fiction comes in two varieties: Soft Sci-Fi, and Hard Sci-Fi. Hard Sci-Fi sticks as CLOSE to scientific fact as possible.

Soft Sci-Fi allows for seemingly fantastic things to occur that break away from coventional science.

There are of course different shades of hard and soft science fiction, but a lot tends to fall on the soft side. Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5. Mass Effect stays mostly in the middle, but strays towards softer.

Synthesis is definitely an example of a soft science fiction concept.

[zambot]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

zambot wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

zambot wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

EDI: "All of us, synthetic and organic, have been changed".

Changed (by synthesis) into accepting a certain idea that not everybody accepted before. "Changed" sounds better, gotta admit that. Everybody had their minds changed at the same time concerning this issue. Which happens to be the time they got hit by the beam.

I know this comes as an enormous shock to people, but a great number of people believe that as we approach enlightenment, our propensity for violence will go down.  Attaining ultimate knowledge or enlightment then necessarily implies violent conflict will be eliminated.

This is not brainwashing.  This is enlightenment.

Seems legit.

This is not a new topic in science fiction.

Does that mean that you also defend cyclical genocide as well? Turning children against the protheans? Employing technology to believe the lies of the reapers, called indoctrination? And the other gazillion atrocities? After all, it is science fiction, right?

No of course not.  Don't be silly.

[Wayning_Star]

The Angry One wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I'm sure he thinks that. Harbinger's new minions work better if they think they're autonomous.

It's coexistence. The Reapers are helping, what is the problem with that?

How is it coexistence? They Reapers only deigned to let us exist when we became like them. Remade in their image.

don't forget the 'vis a vis' on that.. both get zapped.

[Hannah Montana]

[indoctrinated]We're all working with the Reapers to improve our future together. [/indoctrinated]

[ATiBotka]

The Angry One wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I'm sure he thinks that. Harbinger's new minions work better if they think they're autonomous.

It's coexistence. The Reapers are helping, what is the problem with that?

How is it coexistence? They Reapers only deigned to let us exist when we became like them. Remade in their image.

They are no longer controlled by the catalyst, that is why they coexist with us.

[RiouHotaru]

The Angry One wrote...

How is it coexistence? They Reapers only deigned to let us exist when we became like them. Remade in their image.

I'd hate to start arguing after we just came to agreement on something after HOW long of snipes and jabs...but you're doing it again.

"Remade in their image" is a stretch.  A seemless blend of organic and synthetic isn't "their image" because to my knowledge, Coates still looks like Coates and not a giant squid.

[Hannah Montana]

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's not. Science fiction comes in two varieties: Soft Sci-Fi, and Hard Sci-Fi. Hard Sci-Fi sticks as CLOSE to scientific fact as possible.

Soft Sci-Fi allows for seemingly fantasy things to occur that break away from coventional science.

There are of course different shades of hard and soft science fiction, but a lot tends to fall on the soft side. Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5. Mass Effect stays mostly in the middle, but strays towards softer.

Synthesis is definitely an example of a soft science fiction concept.

I changed one word slightly

[The Angry One]

Wayning_Star wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I'm sure he thinks that. Harbinger's new minions work better if they think they're autonomous.

It's coexistence. The Reapers are helping, what is the problem with that?

How is it coexistence? They Reapers only deigned to let us exist when we became like them. Remade in their image.

don't forget the 'vis a vis' on that.. both get zapped.

Reapers are already hybrid organic/synthetic beings. They get... shiny circuits and Harbinger presumably gets green eyes.
Yes I'm sure that's a change on the same magnitude as what the organics and synthetics have to go through to suit the Reapers.

RiouHotaru wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

How is it coexistence? They Reapers only deigned to let us exist when we became like them. Remade in their image.

I'd
hate to start arguing after we just came to agreement on something
after HOW long of snipes and jabs...but you're doing it again.

"Remade
in their image" is a stretch.  A seemless blend of organic and
synthetic isn't "their image" because to my knowledge, Coates still
looks like Coates and not a giant squid.

Hey nothing wrong with arguing as long as the petty jabs are left out.
Anyway, by remade in their image I mean, they become a form of hybrid life like the Reapers. The method is different, of course. But they're still essentially a combination of organic and synthetic. Reapers are this themselves, as are husks of all varieties.

Modifié par The Angry One, 21 août 2012 - 09:24 .

[ATiBotka]

Hannah Montana wrote...

[indoctrinated]We're all working with the Reapers to improve our future together. [/indoctrinated]

Yeah, yeah, everyone is indoctrinated, I know.

[Applepie_Svk]

ATiBotka wrote...

They are no longer controlled by the catalyst, that is why they coexist with us.

Exactly how do you know that ?

[ShepnTali]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

zambot wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

EDI: "All of us, synthetic and organic, have been changed".

Changed (by synthesis) into accepting a certain idea that not everybody accepted before. "Changed" sounds better, gotta admit that. Everybody had their minds changed at the same time concerning this issue. Which happens to be the time they got hit by the beam.

I know this comes as an enormous shock to people, but a great number of people believe that as we approach enlightenment, our propensity for violence will go down.  Attaining ultimate knowledge or enlightment then necessarily implies violent conflict will be eliminated.

This is not brainwashing.  This is enlightenment.

Seems legit.

Space magic.

[Fixers0]

ATiBotka wrote...
But they are helping people.

that's what they want you to believe, still no anwser.

[RiouHotaru]

Hannah Montana wrote...

I changed one word slightly

Now we're arguing semnatics.  Hard science fiction and soft science fiction are STILL science fiction.

[zambot]

ShepnTali wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

zambot wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

EDI: "All of us, synthetic and organic, have been changed".

Changed (by synthesis) into accepting a certain idea that not everybody accepted before. "Changed" sounds better, gotta admit that. Everybody had their minds changed at the same time concerning this issue. Which happens to be the time they got hit by the beam.

I know this comes as an enormous shock to people, but a great number of people believe that as we approach enlightenment, our propensity for violence will go down.  Attaining ultimate knowledge or enlightment then necessarily implies violent conflict will be eliminated.

This is not brainwashing.  This is enlightenment.

Seems legit.

Space magic.

Yes now you understand.  With space magic, anything is possible, including instant enlightenment.

[RiouHotaru]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

They are no longer controlled by the catalyst, that is why they coexist with us.

Exactly how do you know that ?

Because EDI states as such and the Catalyst no longer exists?

[Wayning_Star]

Hannah Montana wrote...

[indoctrinated]We're all working with the Reapers to improve our future together. [/indoctrinated]

no, indoctrination is simple communication, like a walkie talky. Synthesis is a sharing of resources, like blood transfusion or transplant operation.

[ATiBotka]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

They are no longer controlled by the catalyst, that is why they coexist with us.

Exactly how do you know that ?

I'm not sure about that, but the Citadel exploded in synthesis.

[AresKeith]

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's not. Science fiction comes in two varieties: Soft Sci-Fi, and Hard Sci-Fi. Hard Sci-Fi sticks as CLOSE to scientific fact as possible.

Soft Sci-Fi allows for seemingly fantastic things to occur that break away from coventional science.

There are of course different shades of hard and soft science fiction, but a lot tends to fall on the soft side. Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5. Mass Effect stays mostly in the middle, but strays towards softer.

Synthesis is definitely an example of a soft science fiction concept.

again.. except in Mass Effect nothing has ever happened on the scale of Synthesis until the last 10 minutes of the game, therefore its not possible within that universe

[Seival]

I'm saying YES to Controled Synthesis. Which means my Shepard chose Control, to prepare everyone to the inevitable Synthesis.

[RiouHotaru]

AresKeith wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's not. Science fiction comes in two varieties: Soft Sci-Fi, and Hard Sci-Fi. Hard Sci-Fi sticks as CLOSE to scientific fact as possible.

Soft Sci-Fi allows for seemingly fantastic things to occur that break away from coventional science.

There are of course different shades of hard and soft science fiction, but a lot tends to fall on the soft side. Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5. Mass Effect stays mostly in the middle, but strays towards softer.

Synthesis is definitely an example of a soft science fiction concept.

again.. except in Mass Effect nothing has ever happened on the scale of Synthesis until the last 10 minutes of the game, therefore its not possible within that universe

...Once again, dealing with advanced civilization that made the Citadel and the Mass Relays, the Catalyst and the Reapers.

Not far-fetched at ALL.

[Wayning_Star]

zambot wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

zambot wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

EDI: "All of us, synthetic and organic, have been changed".

Changed (by synthesis) into accepting a certain idea that not everybody accepted before. "Changed" sounds better, gotta admit that. Everybody had their minds changed at the same time concerning this issue. Which happens to be the time they got hit by the beam.

I know this comes as an enormous shock to people, but a great number of people believe that as we approach enlightenment, our propensity for violence will go down.  Attaining ultimate knowledge or enlightment then necessarily implies violent conflict will be eliminated.

This is not brainwashing.  This is enlightenment.

Seems legit.

Space magic.

Yes now you understand.  With space magic, anything is possible, including instant enlightenment.

of course, the milky way is definitively space magic...

next..

[Hannah Montana]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Hannah Montana wrote...

I changed one word slightly

Now we're arguing semnatics.  Hard science fiction and soft science fiction are STILL science fiction.

Perhaps but this big monster entity and this green wave of turd is the definition of fantasy.

[Wayning_Star]

RiouHotaru wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's not. Science fiction comes in two varieties: Soft Sci-Fi, and Hard Sci-Fi. Hard Sci-Fi sticks as CLOSE to scientific fact as possible.

Soft Sci-Fi allows for seemingly fantastic things to occur that break away from coventional science.

There are of course different shades of hard and soft science fiction, but a lot tends to fall on the soft side. Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5. Mass Effect stays mostly in the middle, but strays towards softer.

Synthesis is definitely an example of a soft science fiction concept.

again.. except in Mass Effect nothing has ever happened on the scale of Synthesis until the last 10 minutes of the game, therefore its not possible within that universe

...Once again, dealing with advanced civilization that made the Citadel and the Mass Relays, the Catalyst and the Reapers.

Not far-fetched at ALL.

don't mention Sheps ressurection..they'll have kittens.

[ATiBotka]

Seival wrote...

I'm saying YES to Controled Synthesis. Which means my Shepard chose Control, to prepare everyone to the inevitable Synthesis.

"Prepare yourselves for Synthesis!"

[Wayning_Star]

Hannah Montana wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Hannah Montana wrote...

I changed one word slightly

Now we're arguing semnatics.  Hard science fiction and soft science fiction are STILL science fiction.

Perhaps but this big monster entity and this green wave of turd is the definition of fantasy.

not unlike the big bang theory,eh..