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#201
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ATiBotka wrote...

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Don't the husks turn back into humans, though? Or something, I know something happens to them in Synthesis.


They become green. I don't think they turn back to humans. And think about the Brutes, Cannibals. What's going to happen to them?


You know that scene in Robocop 2 where the new Robocops immediately realise what they've become and violently commit suicide? That.

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Master Xanthan wrote...


They don't turn back into humans. And yeah the husks aren't evil anymore but its the principle of it. Its like the Reapers saying "oh right, we reaperfied some of these people that may be former family members, you should try and get to know them again" Its just an insult really. 


Okay, I haven't seen all of Synthesis so thanks for letting me know.

For the record, I agree with you and it's one of the reasons I chose Destroy. I just think that the not-evil vampire analogy is probably closer. If someone turned my family into vampires I would stake them regardless of their docility, because it's what my family would want.

This is assuming a mythology where the vampire is a different sentience than the human it was, of course.

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Greylycantrope wrote...

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If synthesis is canonized, it would be horrible. I don't like the idea of everyone living alongside husks, marauders, and banshees. Its just sick.

What's with you people and your aversion to peaceful coexistence?


I'm averse to peaceful coexistence to reaper husks because the person who that husk used to be is now dead. The husk/marauders/banshees should be laid to rest. Its like living alongside zombies. Imagine a character in the mass effect universe finding out that one of the husks they live alongside used to be one of their family members, does that seem disturbing to you at all? This is one of the big reasons why I don't like synthesis. If you find nothing wrong with that, then all I have to say is "wow......."

Forced genetic rewrite is also an issue. I refuse to just glance over the uncortable details.


There are a lot of issues with Synthesis, I agree. The living alongside husks and other reaperfied life forms was one of the issues that stood out to me. When I first watched the synthesis EC ending and saw that husk I was thinking "what the hell!!"

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The Angry One wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Don't the husks turn back into humans, though? Or something, I know something happens to them in Synthesis.

In any case, zombies aren't sentient so it would be more akin to living alongside vampires who aren't evil.


All we know is that they apparently become docile.
They certainly don't become what they once were and I'd at least hope they don't return to sapience because self aware existence as a Husk, let alone a Cannibal, a Banshee, a Brute or a freaking Praetorian would be a living nightmare.

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pirate1802 wrote...

Bioware has decreed there are no canon endings. Until they say otherwise, you have no reason to worry.


Whatever Bioware said, no need to worry, we had enough lies from them with ME3...

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JPR out!

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I don't think any of the husk varieries had any significant intelligence. So after Synthesis, I believe they'd become more like harmless animals.

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Say NO to Bioware : most efficient way I think!

JPR out!

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synthesis already existed back in pevious bioware games



does anyone approve this ?

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CronoDragoon wrote...

Master Xanthan wrote...


They don't turn back into humans. And yeah the husks aren't evil anymore but its the principle of it. Its like the Reapers saying "oh right, we reaperfied some of these people that may be former family members, you should try and get to know them again" Its just an insult really. 


Okay, I haven't seen all of Synthesis so thanks for letting me know.

For the record, I agree with you and it's one of the reasons I chose Destroy. I just think that the not-evil vampire analogy is probably closer. If someone turned my family into vampires I would stake them regardless of their docility, because it's what my family would want.

This is assuming a mythology where the vampire is a different sentience than the human it was, of course.


After the initial scene where the green space magic wave sweeps over everything, husks are never seen again. Their exclusion is...odd. Speculation is the holy word of Bioware at this point.

Nyoka wrote...

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There is no evidence for synthesis brainwashing anyone.

Multiple
examples. First to come to mind... when Wreav says "victory at all
costs" and wants to bring a Reaper back to Tuchanka as a trophy, he
wants to not destroy Reapers? Wreav suddenly changed his mind in favor
of peaceful diplomacy and cooperation by himself?

In general, the absolute lack of dissent is just a big, galaxy wide coincidence?


So...Control brainwashes people as well? Ain't got no Krogan Rebellion there. The Reapers did such a good job of brainwashing that they needed to help rebuild ravaged worlds.... Yeah....

Side Note: According to a few people, they saw Wreav building an army in Synthesis. Haven't tried it myself yet, but I'll have to test out different circumstances to be sure.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 21 août 2012 - 05:41 .


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Why not just go with the more popular selected option.... like say Destroy (which it was) and respect the fans opinions? Then just file save the rest, like what Shep chose and his/her LI. Jus' saying.

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hornedfrog87 wrote...

Why not just go with the more popular selected option.... like say Destroy (which it was) and respect the fans opinions? Then just file save the rest, like what Shep chose and his/her LI. Jus' saying.


And lose 40% of your fanbase? Yeah...

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There is no canon ending.

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RadicalDisconnect wrote...

hornedfrog87 wrote...

Why not just go with the more popular selected option.... like say Destroy (which it was) and respect the fans opinions? Then just file save the rest, like what Shep chose and his/her LI. Jus' saying.


And lose 40% of your fanbase? Yeah...


Honestly, I don't see 40% leaving over that. Much like 50% didn't leave when Revan was canonized, sure there was an uproard, but not a huge amount left tio my knowledge.

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RadicalDisconnect wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Master Xanthan wrote...


They don't turn back into humans. And yeah the husks aren't evil anymore but its the principle of it. Its like the Reapers saying "oh right, we reaperfied some of these people that may be former family members, you should try and get to know them again" Its just an insult really. 


Okay, I haven't seen all of Synthesis so thanks for letting me know.

For the record, I agree with you and it's one of the reasons I chose Destroy. I just think that the not-evil vampire analogy is probably closer. If someone turned my family into vampires I would stake them regardless of their docility, because it's what my family would want.

This is assuming a mythology where the vampire is a different sentience than the human it was, of course.


After the initial scene where the green space magic wave sweeps over everything, husks are never seen again. Their exclusion is...odd. Speculation is the holy word of Bioware at this point.

Nyoka wrote...

Arcian wrote...

There is no evidence for synthesis brainwashing anyone.

Multiple
examples. First to come to mind... when Wreav says "victory at all
costs" and wants to bring a Reaper back to Tuchanka as a trophy, he
wants to not destroy Reapers? Wreav suddenly changed his mind in favor
of peaceful diplomacy and cooperation by himself?

In general, the absolute lack of dissent is just a big, galaxy wide coincidence?


So...Control brainwashes people as well? Ain't got no Krogan Rebellion there. The Reapers did such a good job of brainwashing that they needed to help rebuild ravaged worlds.... Yeah....

Side Note: According to a few people, they saw Wreav building an army in Synthesis. Haven't tried it myself yet, but I'll have to test out different circumstances to be sure.


err, control brainwash the reapers, and there is no rebelion because th reapers are now the sace police of doom. No brainwashing necessary although control is stil stupid after you spendmost of te game stopping it

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Always. Shoot. The tube.

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Nyoka wrote...

Arcian wrote...

There is no evidence for synthesis brainwashing anyone.

Multiple examples. First to come to mind... when Wreav says "victory at all costs" and wants to bring a Reaper back to Tuchanka as a trophy, he wants to not destroy Reapers? Wreav suddenly changed his mind in favor of peaceful diplomacy and cooperation by himself?

In general, the absolute lack of dissent is just a big, galaxy wide coincidence?

The lack of dissent is in your headcanon. And why should Wreav kill the Reapers when they're offering to rebuild Tuchanka for him? All he'll do is boast how the former destroyers of the galaxy are bowing before him, doing his bidding. Not even Wreav is stupid enough to kick a gift horse in the mouth, at least not while the gift horse is still useful to him.

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Screw synthesis. Seriously. Why does Bioware wants Mass Effect to be Deus Ex? Why cant it be just Mass Effect and keep the things that make the series famous in the first place?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Synthesis WILL happen. But it doesn't have to be through Shepard's actions.

Somewhere, down the road, many, many thousands of years from now, Synthesis WILL occur.

But my Shepard will be long dead. It really isn't my issue or his. He chose to Destroy the Reapers.

End of story. That's all it means.

Nope. Synthesis will never happen. There will always be remote planets with animal and plant life. I bet there never will be even ONE planet where synthesis will happen because it would take way too much time to manipulate every specie (all bugs and all plants) so no, starbrat was just lying just like he lied about Shepards death if you choose Destroy. Only way to make synthesis happen is to force it on everyone and everything with space magic

Modifié par Govalon, 21 août 2012 - 06:57 .


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Screw synthesis. Seriously. Why does Bioware wants Mass Effect to be Deus Ex? Why cant it be just Mass Effect and keep the things that make the series famous in the first place?

[oops, sorry for the double post :(]

Modifié par RustyMcBlade, 21 août 2012 - 07:00 .


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Arcian wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

Arcian wrote...

There is no evidence for synthesis brainwashing anyone.

Multiple examples. First to come to mind... when Wreav says "victory at all costs" and wants to bring a Reaper back to Tuchanka as a trophy, he wants to not destroy Reapers? Wreav suddenly changed his mind in favor of peaceful diplomacy and cooperation by himself?

In general, the absolute lack of dissent is just a big, galaxy wide coincidence?

The lack of dissent is in your headcanon. And why should Wreav kill the Reapers when they're offering to rebuild Tuchanka for him? All he'll do is boast how the former destroyers of the galaxy are bowing before him, doing his bidding. Not even Wreav is stupid enough to kick a gift horse in the mouth, at least not while the gift horse is still useful to him.


because the reapers ar abominations that can indoctrinate peple and didn't pay for their crimes?

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Cannon ending has to be Destroy, mutant Human Reapers are just no bad space magic bad

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More like "Say NO to hysteria."

That's basically all it is when people criticize synthesis.

Okay, not ALWAYS, but 98% of the time.

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I pick Destroy everytime, but I guess It makes sense to have synthesis canon. It's the inevitable to go forward anyway. 

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gorezeelar wrote...

I pick Destroy everytime, but I guess It makes sense to have synthesis canon. It's the inevitable to go forward anyway. 

You are wrong. It is not inevitable for whole galaxy because that is just absurd. Sure, there are bound to be some species who will choose synthesis but not all can even make that choise. Plants can't make themself cyborgs so they will never be synthesised unless someone does that for them for no reason. Also, every planet has other life forms than humanoids. Cow like animals can't make themselfs cyborgs. Only way to make synthesis happen is to force it on everyone and everything with space magic.

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"Word on the street"? Bioware said "no canon ending" specifically. Unless you'd got some clear sources of information you're just spouting nonsense?