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Ok, so there's been a leak discription of Dragon Age 3. BioWare apparently polled of some members of its community (not me...and I've done so much to appear very attractive to BioWare offical secret polls like having never once leaked anything). You can read more here or better yet here.

That doesn't interest me. What really piqued my interest and trust me I need my interest piqued was this bit from the second link:

The world of Dragon Age is one on the brink of collapse, and when a
desperate gathering in the name of peace becomes the epicentre of a
magical blast that decimates the Chantry's leadership, it becomes clear
that someone or something is manipulating events to drive the world into
chaos.


So let us, the story board people brain storm this. I have my suspect.

Let me start off by saying that while there is somewhat a bit of proof that Flemeth is Fen'Harrel I've never believed that theory. Simply put Flemeth in both games but especially in Origins seems to be a character not too different from Doctor Manhattan from the comic book Watchmen.

She seems to know Jory will die and that he's irrevelent to the story, she knows she'll be in a fight with the Warden in DA2, she knows Hawke's future and gives her sympathy, and in general she seems aloof but a puppet to some greater scheme. She seems, at least to me, to be an important part of the world but not some deity that colors out of the lines. I'll finish this line of thought by saying while I disbelieve she's the Dread Wolf I won't really campagin that fact or call foul if she is revealed to be the Dread Wolf.

Second off, she's too obviously the big bad. So I'm ruling her out as the big bad manipulating things because there's no mystery there.

SO who or what is?

The moment you start Origins you hear the story of the ancient Tevinters blackening the Golden City. That single event, while originally dubious, sent the entire plot of the first game forward. More importantly the Architect is revealed in Awakening to have been responsible for the most recent Blight.

When this information comes out (the Mother forces it) the Architect says it was to find a way to end the Blights. Because of my own personal bias against that character I don't believe a word of it. Just like his never meaning to war with the Wardens while the talking darkspawn at Vigil's Keep says the slaughter went exactly as the Architect foretold. The character is just too untrustworthy for me to believe him especially since he wasn't going to tell us this fact had the Mother not brought it up.

In Dragon Age 2 the entire meltdown of the Chantry/Templar/Mages thing could (with the exception of Anders' durp moment) be laid at the pure lyrium idol found in the Primeval Thaig. Meredith wasn't the most lenient person in the world before coming in contact with the idol but her madness spiraled out of control after aquiring it. If there is a dark force manipulating the world into collapse then it acted through that idol. (Fun note: the idol appears to be elven in design. I looked for the thread that talked about that but there you go.)

Who could have had access to that idol? In a forgotten thaig lost to the darkspawn ages ago? Darkspawn.

Then there's the mission with Nathaniel Howe who talks ominously about the Wardens new allies and the need to secretly go back to the Primeval Thaig for some unknown reason. These allies are clearly the Architect if you import an Awakening where the Architect survived but the allies are less obvious if you killed that particular ancient darkspawn mutant.

But then there's Legacy. Which has a great name for what it is because it deals with what kicked off the series... the tainting of the Golden City. We meet one of the Tevinter Magisters that went into the Fade and kicked off (inadvertently) the Blights. This is the most solid proof there is yet that the Chantry's recounting of the origin of the darkspawn isn't all made up.

Interestingly enough Cory (the magister who looks an awful lot like the Architect and I do not believe that to be a coincidence) seems to no longer here the old god Dumat (the first archdemon). This suggests that magisters used to be in constant contact with the old gods. And that it appears the old gods may have suggested that the magisters go to the Fade. This is all conjecture but Cory does show how he speaks through the taint to control darkspawn, ghouls, and to a lesser extint Grey Wardens even while asleep. This ability has only been seen in archdemons who we believe are corrupted old gods.

All this points to me at least to a villain we haven't seen. Either an old god or an ancient Tevinter Magister. Either way whatever force is behind the darkspawn is manipulating this chaos.

The darkspawn cannot co-exist with other species or life in general. Their mere presence taints the land and twists living beings into ghouls. Their blood is the source of their corruption and also all darkspawn magic. I've long thought they were engineered by something as a living bio-weapon. This is speculation, of course, but I still believe it.

And finally I feel it needs to be said... Flemeth while powerful still saw the Blight as the real threat in Dragon Age: Origins. And it's entirely possible that all Flemeth's actions have been towards ending the Blights and whatever is controlling them.

Thoughts?

Modifié par Foolsfolly, 21 août 2012 - 10:02 .


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Well, as one of your linked articles states, the surveys are "unauthenticated" so they could be a lot of fluff and nonsense.

As for any big bad manipulating things, I'm inclined to think that we'll face off against something large and ominous eventually, but that the true enemy, as it were, is mortal-kind itself, and all of the shenanigans it engages in based on greed, lust, hubris, etc. Maybe we'll encounter more magisters, maybe they'll band together to attempt to gain the power of the old gods again, maybe there will be another attempt to breach Rotten Twinkie City by them or by a new crop of folks.

The Blights, and the darkspawn threat, are definite threats, and left unchecked, could reshape the face of Thedas and beyond. I don't know that anything is currently and actively playing puppetmaster with the darkspawn though. I think their existence was a ripple on the pond from early events. But that ripple doubles back upon itself. Maybe the issue is really an imbalance in the nature of magic itself, related to the old gods and all the pantheons perhaps, which makes Sandal's prophecy seem all the more valid for what might be the grand finale.

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EA also wanted the images removed from Cinemablend which really confirms that the story's true. Otherwise I wouldn't have even started the thread. Source:

Update: EA's lawyers have contacted us and demanded that we take down the character images and list of possible subtitles for Dragon Age 3. While it's annoying to pull content, the upside is that this takedown notice seems to confirm the legitimacy of the rumored survey and the existence of this game.


As for the rest of your post:

Maybe the issue is really an imbalance in the nature of magic itself, related to the old gods and all the pantheons perhaps, which makes Sandal's prophecy seem all the more valid for what might be the grand finale.


I totally forgot all about Sandal's prophesy.

Modifié par Foolsfolly, 21 août 2012 - 10:21 .


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How does the take-down notice confirm legitimacy though? If the DA name and logo are being used for unofficial purposes, and a survey has been crafted under the guise of it being DA-related, wouldn't EA be within their rights to protect their IP? I just don't know that the request for removal is any sort of proof of validity.

Aside from that...in addition to Sandal's prophecy, there's also Eleni Zinovia's to consider. The "prison" she mentions could be the impetus for the (seemingly) world-shaking events/state of being that Sandal might be referring to.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

Aside from that...in addition to Sandal's prophecy, there's also Eleni Zinovia's to consider. The "prison" she mentions could be the impetus for the (seemingly) world-shaking events/state of being that Sandal might be referring to.


Personally, I took the prison as a literal. As in there was a "magical" prison and somebody escaped from it. Considering the timeframe, it could actually be linked to Corypheus.

But I don't think that Cory is the big bad though, he seemed to be under a 3rd party influence in Legacy. Cory doesn't seem to know what is happening, where he is, etc. So why was he manipulating tainted creatures to escape? It's like something else was "living" in Cory and this is what was manipulating the tainted creatures. Maybe Cory really died at the end of Legacy, but the "essence" controlling him moved to the closest and weakest tainted creature to escape (sound familar).

Maybe the Architect got another part of this "essence" as well. This is why he says something, but does another...

In fact, this "essence" idea sound similar to what Flemeth is doing with the medallion (and maybe her daughters) now that I think of it...

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I'd take this with a huge grain of salt, could just be people rumor mongering, just because EA wants the info taken down doesn't make it official. That's like saying government denying conspiracies just proves the conspiracy (yes there are people who believe that).

That said, it sounds promising. Although the Inquisition is the Templar Order isn't it? The Original Inquisition became the Templars and the Seekers when they joined the Chantry in the Nevarran Accord, so when Lambert ended the accord they would be the ones to revert to that name, no?

Although I suppose you could be someone reinstating the inquisition because you don't trust the templars and want to take matters into your own hands.

Also this didn't mention anything about players being able to choose different races for their protagonist, i sincerely hope bioware hasn't just decided to completely abandon that. DA is supposed to be the successor to Baldur's Gate, can't really do that without selecting your characters race...

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Uh! Speculations! I love those...

But before some thoughts on WHO might be the villain this time, let me say this: More important to me is that we actually will HAVE a villain at all! And please one that doesn't just show up in the end or has almost no scenes or interactions with us...

I think that was amajor issue with DAO...the Archdemon was silent, the threat of the Darkspawn for most of the game non-existant because not shown, and Loghain only schemed around in some cutscenes and towards the end became more important....and DA2 practically had no villain/antagonist/rival at all for the most part...

Hopefully they will this time give us an antagonist to focus on, from the start throughout the fame, like Irenicus in BG2, for example. Or Saren from ME1...lately Bioware seems to have problems with the villain-concept...

That being said, this one from the OP picked my interest: (Fun note: the (evil) idol appears to be elven in design. I looked for the thread that talked about that but there you go.)

Valid or not, it made me think about something else, that secret codex of Arl Foreshadow...


Books to pursue for future endeavors.
Lost countenance: Ferelden to Orlesian Phrase Book
-Must not offend the potential landlords
Raising Spirits: Offsprings and the Fade
-Terrible two's indeed!
Forest Fall: Truth and Legend in the Search for Arlathan
-Survivors? poppycock!
The Origin of Theses: Knowing more than Everyone without Looking Like a Jackass
-Never get the time to read this. Maybe there's a stage play?

nothing about mages/templars here, but DA3 takes place in Orlais, Offsprings and Fade, terrible two...Morrigan/Flemeth? And Arlathan = Old Elves...so my speculation now is either Morrigan/Flemeth/Child are pulling some strings here to ensue chaos among the world for their plans...whatever they may be

Or maybe this whole chaos is of "elven" design? A scheme of elves to "bring back" or restore Arlathan by weakening the human lands by internal conflict? Something like this? Hey, that last speculations even reminds me of Irenicus again Posted Image


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Vox Draco wrote...

Uh! Speculations! I love those...

But before some thoughts on WHO might be the villain this time, let me say this: More important to me is that we actually will HAVE a villain at all! And please one that doesn't just show up in the end or has almost no scenes or interactions with us...

I think that was amajor issue with DAO...the Archdemon was silent, the threat of the Darkspawn for most of the game non-existant because not shown, and Loghain only schemed around in some cutscenes and towards the end became more important....and DA2 practically had no villain/antagonist/rival at all for the most part...

Hopefully they will this time give us an antagonist to focus on, from the start throughout the fame, like Irenicus in BG2, for example. Or Saren from ME1...lately Bioware seems to have problems with the villain-concept...

That being said, this one from the OP picked my interest: (Fun note: the (evil) idol appears to be elven in design. I looked for the thread that talked about that but there you go.)

Valid or not, it made me think about something else, that secret codex of Arl Foreshadow...


Books to pursue for future endeavors.
Lost countenance: Ferelden to Orlesian Phrase Book
-Must not offend the potential landlords
Raising Spirits: Offsprings and the Fade
-Terrible two's indeed!
Forest Fall: Truth and Legend in the Search for Arlathan
-Survivors? poppycock!
The Origin of Theses: Knowing more than Everyone without Looking Like a Jackass
-Never get the time to read this. Maybe there's a stage play?

nothing about mages/templars here, but DA3 takes place in Orlais, Offsprings and Fade, terrible two...Morrigan/Flemeth? And Arlathan = Old Elves...so my speculation now is either Morrigan/Flemeth/Child are pulling some strings here to ensue chaos among the world for their plans...whatever they may be

Or maybe this whole chaos is of "elven" design? A scheme of elves to "bring back" or restore Arlathan by weakening the human lands by internal conflict? Something like this? Hey, that last speculations even reminds me of Irenicus again Posted Image


I believe that everything links back to the elves, in my thread about Flemeth being Fen'Harel I give evidence that links the Old Gods to the Elven Forgotton Ones, and hypothisize that the Darkspawn/Blight is a coninuation of the war between the two factions of Elven Gods.

I believe Flemeth would make a great overarcing plotting antagonist. Morrigan I never saw as a bad guy (girl) she just did what she needed to survive and to protect the essence of Urthemiel. While she might have plans I don't believe they'd involve chaos on this scale.

Another possibilty of course is Coryphius and Dumat. Corypheus calls to Dumat for power and actually recieves power, this kinda indicates Dumat isn't completely destroyed. Plus Corypheus' powers seem like an Old God's, he can exercise a Calling and control Darkspawn. It isn't too much of a stretch to think that maybe Dumat's soul went to Corypheus when his body was slain, rather than being destroyed as we thought, and now he has his own plans.

Other possible antagonists include the remaining two Old Gods, who maybe somehow woke up. The Disciples and the Architect (if he is alive) are also possible. Hell a Tevinter Magister could even be behind this in an attempt to weaken Thedas so the Imperium can rise again.

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ghostmessiah202 wrote...

I believe that everything links back to the elves, in my thread about Flemeth being Fen'Harel I give evidence that links the Old Gods to the Elven Forgotton Ones, and hypothisize that the Darkspawn/Blight is a coninuation of the war between the two factions of Elven Gods.

I believe Flemeth would make a great overarcing plotting antagonist. Morrigan I never saw as a bad guy (girl) she just did what she needed to survive and to protect the essence of Urthemiel. While she might have plans I don't believe they'd involve chaos on this scale.

Another possibilty of course is Coryphius and Dumat. Corypheus calls to Dumat for power and actually recieves power, this kinda indicates Dumat isn't completely destroyed. Plus Corypheus' powers seem like an Old God's, he can exercise a Calling and control Darkspawn. It isn't too much of a stretch to think that maybe Dumat's soul went to Corypheus when his body was slain, rather than being destroyed as we thought, and now he has his own plans.

Other possible antagonists include the remaining two Old Gods, who maybe somehow woke up. The Disciples and the Architect (if he is alive) are also possible. Hell a Tevinter Magister could even be behind this in an attempt to weaken Thedas so the Imperium can rise again.


It seems I need to play at least some of the DLCs...never heard of Corypheus before...Posted Image And I think the Old gods don't really "work" as main antagonists, at least not on their own, without a face or voice they interact with us. My major gripe with urthemiel in DAO...but their involvement might shed some light in the whole Darkspawn-thingy, though at the risk on de-mystefying the whole conflict...dangerous, Bioware already killed the Reapers as great villains...

As far as Flemeth is concerned...mmmmhhh....actually I fail to see her as a "true" antagonist. She always made me think more about a Gandalf-kind of character. Powerful, scheming, setting things in motion and the heroes on the right track. She rescues the Warden, and Hawke, and though dubious she never really made me think she might threaten the world or such things...but hey...I am open for surprises!

Morrigan however...I am divided on her. I never liked her, and if I could feed her to the Archdemon to save everyone, I'd do it. She, at least for me, has far more potential as a villain than Flemeth. Morrigan just seems more focused on her own personal achievements, Flemeths gives me a different impression...

Still, all of the above is better than just a plain Tevinter-evil-doer looking for power, or some Bond-Villain-stuff like that. I hope it will be a little more complex like that, though not too compelx either...ahem...ah whatever, I really hope we get some more solid information soon! Posted Image

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Vox Draco wrote...

As far as Flemeth is concerned...mmmmhhh....actually I fail to see her as a "true" antagonist. She always made me think more about a Gandalf-kind of character. Powerful, scheming, setting things in motion and the heroes on the right track. She rescues the Warden, and Hawke, and though dubious she never really made me think she might threaten the world or such things...but hey...I am open for surprises!



The way I see how Flemeth's so called good actions could be interpretted (if she is evil) is that she was setting the world up so that these events would occur.

I.E. Without the Grey Warden Ferelden would have fallen, leaving Orlais stronger (no southern rival, and no debate between Orliesian nobles that want to reconquer Ferelden and the Empress, thus no civil war). Without Hawke the events in Kirkwall would have played out differently, Meredith might not have gone bat crap crazy without the Lyrium idol/sword and so the whole Mage-Templar conflict and the Templar-Chantry conflicts might not have occured.

So although her actions seem like good in the short run they seem to lead to a more chaotic and desperate outcome in the long run. Thedas might have been stable right now if not for Flemeth's influence. So maybe she was setting the stage for this, to accomplish some unknown goal.

Or maybe she really is benign and things would have been worse without her help and she really is a 'goodish' person.

Time tells all secrets...

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Fantasy needs more villains(ish) like Littlefinger. The whole dark god/big bad behind everything gets annoying after awhile. You see one evil insane god/higher being, and you seen them all.

Though, Flemeth is too much of an easy target for big villain. Cryptic, mysterious, ancient, magical superpowers, can turn into a dragon, and she has a scary laugh. Much to easy of a target.

People have to remember that there are been someone watching them in both games, They have been in the middle of all the maddness. They were watching the Warden all throughout the Blight, Hawke all through the maddness of Kirkwall, in the Deep Road leading towards the Idol, and he was even in Orlais when the craziness picked up there as well. And to top it all, he has always shown amazing and unnatural powers when his life was in danger, and he had to protect himself.

Yes, I'm talking about....... Sandal!

It's so much easier to manipulate history, to pull everyone's strings, when you are in the middle of it all....

NO ONE EXPECTS THE AUTISTIC DWARF!!!!!

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While I don't agree that it's Sandal (whatever he is and whatever role he has, I'm more inclined to believe it's benign), you talking about watching reminded me of Gaxkang. He says: "Eyes are on you from a very high vantage, Grey Warden. I cannot hide in your wake, but I will not be a footnote!" And from a codex entry: "The first of the magus cast themselves deep in the Fade in search of answers and power, always power. They found the forbidden ones- Xebenkeck, Imshael, Gaxkang the Unbound, and The Formless One. Many conversations were had and much of the fabric of the world revealed. And thus the magic of blood was born." So it seems he's for some importance. (There's even an achievement for killing Xebenbeck in DA2).

I certainly don't think it's Morrigan. Her relationship with a romanced or friend Warden and Witch Hunt (especially that the warden can go with her), has me pretty convinced that she won't turn out to be evil. I'd be pretty pissed if that were the case, tbh. I'd rather have another monster who can't say anything but RAWR as the villain again.

And Flemeth is indeed the too obvious choice, imo. Whatever her plan is, I don't think it's inherently bad, though i am really curious what it is.

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Urzon wrote...


People have to remember that there are been someone watching them in both games, They have been in the middle of all the maddness. They were watching the Warden all throughout the Blight, Hawke all through the maddness of Kirkwall, in the Deep Road leading towards the Idol, and he was even in Orlais when the craziness picked up there as well. And to top it all, he has always shown amazing and unnatural powers when his life was in danger, and he had to protect himself.

Sandal is just an agent. An agent who likes to put his finger in the soup. And if anything, perhaps he is a sort of bodyguard/guardian angel figure - just clearing out some of the nastiest darkspawn that stand in the path of the protagonist du jour.

If anyone is indeed watching events, it's the Witch of the Wilds. Why do you think there are so many random raven feathers lying around Kirkwall? (I can't explain the pouches of pebbles though.) Now...why she's watching is open for debate. I don't think it's to enact some grand evil masterplan so much as I think it's to ensure that events are clicking into place properly. Perhaps by seeing how the present is playing out, in multiple places at once, she's better able to divine the future.

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Vox Draco wrote...
Or maybe this whole chaos is of "elven" design?



My pet theory has always been that the elves of Arlathan are ultimately responsible for a whole bunch of bad stuff and that when Tevinter invaded it was to stop them. It'd make for a great twist.


As for the villain behind the scenes, it's either Flemeth or someone we haven't seen yet.

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LookingGlass93 wrote...

Vox Draco wrote...
Or maybe this whole chaos is of "elven" design?



My pet theory has always been that the elves of Arlathan are ultimately responsible for a whole bunch of bad stuff and that when Tevinter invaded it was to stop them. It'd make for a great twist.


As for the villain behind the scenes, it's either Flemeth or someone we haven't seen yet.

Didn't Flemeth run away from someone in Dragon Age 2? That's why she used you to hide inside the amulet. I believe that person could be the big bad behind the event leading up to the big war.

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Crimson Moon wrote...
Didn't Flemeth run away from someone in Dragon Age 2? That's why she used you to hide inside the amulet. I believe that person could be the big bad behind the event leading up to the big war. 

It's believed that the amulet trick/trek to Sundermount was a means for Flemeth to secure a piece of herself in the event that the Warden were going to finish her off (in the attempt to get the grimoire for Morrigan). So Flemeth wasn't so much hiding or running from someone as she was taking out an insurance policy.

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 I strongly believe everything isn't as complex as people make it sound like :)

So far, alot of things points at Flemeth. I also believe she is using Sandal to ''spy'' on people of importance to her (so far, The Warden and the Champion). Remember how Sandal said he saw an old lady watching him, and laughing like a maniac? Yep, that sounds like Flemeth to me.

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Not to mention everything we know about DA3, it happening in Orlais and all, and having strong ties to the chantry/empress whatever, and where is Sandal going next? Yep, the empresses court, probably gonna be at the party camp with the Inquisitor and his/her companions.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

Crimson Moon wrote...
Didn't Flemeth run away from someone in Dragon Age 2? That's why she used you to hide inside the amulet. I believe that person could be the big bad behind the event leading up to the big war. 

It's believed that the amulet trick/trek to Sundermount was a means for Flemeth to secure a piece of herself in the event that the Warden were going to finish her off (in the attempt to get the grimoire for Morrigan). So Flemeth wasn't so much hiding or running from someone as she was taking out an insurance policy.

Ah yes, Flemeth's horcruxes.. she probably has a bunch of them, one in a diary, one in an amulet, one inside a basin in a large cave.. Oh wait :wizard:

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While I don't agree that it's Sandal (whatever he is and whatever role he has, I'm more inclined to believe it's benign), you talking about watching reminded me of Gaxkang. He says: "Eyes are on you from a very high vantage, Grey Warden. I cannot hide in your wake, but I will not be a footnote!" And from a codex entry: "The first of the magus cast themselves deep in the Fade in search of answers and power, always power. They found the forbidden ones- Xebenkeck, Imshael, Gaxkang the Unbound, and The Formless One. Many conversations were had and much of the fabric of the world revealed. And thus the magic of blood was born." So it seems he's for some importance. (There's even an achievement for killing Xebenbeck in DA2).

I certainly don't think it's Morrigan. Her relationship with a romanced or friend Warden and Witch Hunt (especially that the warden can go with her), has me pretty convinced that she won't turn out to be evil. I'd be pretty pissed if that were the case, tbh. I'd rather have another monster who can't say anything but RAWR as the villain again.

And Flemeth is indeed the too obvious choice, imo. Whatever her plan is, I don't think it's inherently bad, though i am really curious what it is.


Your first part with Gaxkang the Unbound and all... oh yeah. I like the sound of that but I honestly think they're just going to continue milking those guys as hidden bosses. And we do need hidden bosses to get cool loot and fight with every trick we have.

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Second off, she's too obviously the big bad. So I'm ruling her out as the big bad manipulating things because there's no mystery there.


Like THAT stopped BioWare before....

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I really enjoyed reading your well reasoned breakdown of a possible scenario. Based upon what the franchise has shown/told us previously, it seems like a terrific way to bring things full circle and that's why we'll likely never see this unfold. Remember that the Indoctrination Theory posited by Mass Effect devotees also suggested an excellent scenario to explain some of the gaffes in ME3, while at the same time stroking the egos of Bioware personnel, who had they opted to follow through on IT, would have been seen as brilliant. Instead they chose to throw all of their eggs on the platform of artistic integrity and the company's reputation went to ****.

I do like your idea quite a bit and find it amusing that your moniker is "Foolsfolly"!

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The tevinter i bet you there the ones that started the mage uprising because anders is to stupid to do it on his own.

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Foolsfolly wrote...
The darkspawn cannot co-exist with other species or life in general. Their mere presence taints the land and twists living beings into ghouls. Their blood is the source of their corruption and also all darkspawn magic. I've long thought they were engineered by something as a living bio-weapon. This is speculation, of course, but I still believe it.


One more thing in favour of your theory, they are suposedly mindless, yet have inherent ability with skills that are useful for war, they naturally know how to use weapons, make their own, mine, ambush and design gear to be intimidating. That kind of skillset just doesn't occur among naturally forming species but would be very useful for a living bio-weapon.

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I think the Darkspawn are the result of something coming through the Black Rift (that they think is a city) that blotted out the Golden Light (as Corypheus never mentions a city).

I don't know what Dumat hoped to gain by sending the magistrates so deep into the Fade. Dumat might have hoped to gain some kind of power beyond the Fade through his minions, and it simply backfired on him.

If some of this is true, the rift is a mistake and is the "villain". Yet, it could be something on the other side of the Fade that misled Dumat for this purpose.

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MisterJB

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Corypheus does mention a city:
"The City! It was supposed to be golden! It was supposed to be ours!"