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[MrScottBear]

Yeah, Sorry, but having the Human Adept so low is enough to invalidate your list. You may not think that one weapon should weigh so heavily, but it does. Hell, even without the Acoylte the Human is at least C. It's not the best, but it's biosplosions hit like a truck.

[TheAdventurer29]

MrScottBear wrote...

Yeah, Sorry, but having the Human Adept so low is enough to invalidate your list. You may not think that one weapon should weigh so heavily, but it does. Hell, even without the Acoylte the Human is at least C. It's not the best, but it's biosplosions hit like a truck.

In my opinion, human adept is at least an A. It is because I have done Platinum with him and succeeded.

[Feneckus]

Vorchas > Turian Sentinel ? Are you out of your mind ?

[ToaOrka]

I disagree with Krogan Sentinel's placing. Very much so.
He's at least an A, if you spec out of Incinerate, he can rock any weapons with no problem and maxed out weapon damage at 25%.

[RiseAndShine]

Ehh, don't agree with this list at all, and why rank classes? Everyone plays on its own way: Melee, long range, support, etc etc...

[ToughReason]

Mr. Original Poster ,

Human Soldier, Human Engineer , Asari Vanguard and especialy Geth Infiltrator  are at very, very wrong place .

Or this tier list is based at your own opinion  ?

EDIT: Also what is base of your tough opinion : Doing objectives, been team synergy character or scoremaker. In all three cases your favored Geth Infiltrator sucks and can be beaten by these three, listed from me characters.

Modifié par ToughReason, 21 août 2012 - 02:26 .

[dzero]

Teratoid wrote...

dzero wrote...


Forgive me, I haven't played the Slayer, but I believe Phase Disruptor is useless? And Charge is Charge so... what is really useful about the Slayer other than spamming slash? 

<_<

Wait till you've tried it, then judge.

I wasn't judging anything. It was more of a query.

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

MrScottBear wrote...

Yeah, Sorry, but having the Human Adept so low is enough to invalidate your list. You may not think that one weapon should weigh so heavily, but it does. Hell, even without the Acoylte the Human is at least C. It's not the best, but it's biosplosions hit like a truck.

In my opinion, human adept is at least an A. It is because I have done Platinum with him and succeeded.

I'm sure if I really tried I could succeed with any character on Platinum. Still wouldn't stop be from seeing a general difference in strength between characters. I also don't believe the Acolyte should have too much influence on any sort of tiering system, but I guess that is just my opinion.

The problem I have with Human Adept is that, A) it heavily relies on the Acolyte, Shockwave can be difficult to aim and sometimes just doesn't seem to make contact, C) Singularity does not persist after detonation.

Fix these things and I'd be in favour of moving it up to a B maybe.

Modifié par dzero, 21 août 2012 - 02:51 .

[WestLakeDragon]

ToaOrka wrote...

I disagree with Krogan Sentinel's placing. Very much so.
He's at least an A, if you spec out of Incinerate, he can rock any weapons with no problem and maxed out weapon damage at 25%.

Not to mention the crazy amounts of Damage Reduction on a class with high Health and Shields. And as you said, you can spec out of Incinerate with no penalty to the character, and have great weapon damage, while still having a character is this hard to bring down even on Platinum. I say he is an A or possibly S. Probably A because you do still have to play him correctly to get the most out of him.

[himegoto]

I'd try to reply to the comments but most of the later posts seem to be people validating their own favourite classes or classes they are good at. While you are free to agree/disagree with my list, validating your favourite classes is the behavior I pointed out in the thread specifically to not to want to see.

Human adepts:
A full one second charge on the acolyte to strip the shield of one mook to have singularity working. Too situational dependent.
Shockwave is a CQC attack. Too easy to dodge or problems due to latency issues. The HA isn't well equipped to be a CQC class. My build is a 66606.
And to me I find the rank B, C characters I listed to be better in overall situations. But really close to a C IMO.

Krogans, Turians:
No roll. Already stated in the thread.
And awful against that one fraction.

Krogan Sentinel is one of my absolute favourite to play. Yes thank you guys I pretty much spec him out of incinerate since beta. I melee almost every shmuck with him on gold with a falcon. Great fun and success.

I try to take everything into consideration with the tier. It could never be perfect to anyone else, but I am very happy with it.

ToughReason wrote...

EDIT: Also what is base
of your tough opinion : Doing objectives, been team synergy character
or scoremaker. In all three cases your favored Geth Infiltrator sucks
and can be beaten by these three, listed from me characters.

I think no one would disagree a GI should not be at the top of the list. You are just trying too hard to pick bones out of an egg.

Modifié par himegoto, 21 août 2012 - 03:13 .

[atum]

Good list, only changes I might make

Human Sentinel = B
Human Infiltrator = C or D
Human Engineer = B
Asari Adept = A
Salarian infiltrator = S

Also I would put the GI in with the QMI -- both SS with the Demolisher

[UEG Donkey]

Teratoid wrote...

dzero wrote...


Forgive me, I haven't played the Slayer, but I believe Phase Disruptor is useless? And Charge is Charge so... what is really useful about the Slayer other than spamming slash? 

<_<

Wait till you've tried it, then judge.

Know how awesome Nova is on Silver/Bronze? Well, PD is like Nova that can be cast at range. Which makes it awesome on Gold without you having to dive into a mob of Geth Hunters.

With all the passive bonuses you can add to PD I think you can be doing approximately 3200 damage (more if you use consumables) almost instantaneously and then charging to refill barriers

[Kalas Magnus]

 Need to be bumped up:

Slayer
Human Adept

[WestLakeDragon]

himegoto wrote...
Krogans, Turians:
No roll. Already stated in the thread.
And awful against that one fraction.

So having some of the highest Shields and Health in the game coupled with great weapon damage and amazing Damage Reduction isn't enough?

[Kalas Magnus]

jrod512ATX wrote...

GI is still hot stuff? I would have bet some of the N7s dethroned him...

The demolisher should be ranked up there with him.

Modifié par Kalas321, 21 août 2012 - 03:10 .

[charlieDotRose]

The human engineer is def a "A", my fav character in the game

[neoskeptic2]

Krogan Senti needs to be bumped up. Tech armor goes nicely with either grenade or melee build.

[himegoto]

Kalas321 wrote...

jrod512ATX wrote...

GI is still hot stuff? I would have bet some of the N7s dethroned him...

The demolisher should be ranked up there with him.

While demolisher is a total beast at raw DPS, CC and support
I find her one of the worst at objectives.

Of course a good player would let their teammates go for the objectives, but like I said, I try to take everything into consideration.

[himegoto]

neoskeptic2 wrote...

Krogan Senti needs to be bumped up. Tech armor goes nicely with either grenade or melee build.

I dont disagree, IMO he is better than the Krogan Soldier.
But then I'll be start making B+/- to the list like the SF4 tiers... That will only stir up more controversy

[dzero]

himegoto wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

jrod512ATX wrote...

GI is still hot stuff? I would have bet some of the N7s dethroned him...

The demolisher should be ranked up there with him.

While demolisher is a total beast at raw DPS, CC and support
I find her one of the worst at objectives.

Of course a good player would let their teammates go for the objectives, but like I said, I try to take everything into consideration.

She is dependent on consumables and less mobile than other classes. Fine where she is, a high tier but not the absolute highest.

[CheetahZ1]

Why are the Asari Adept and Human Sentinel in seperate tiers? They essentially operate the same except for TA and Stasis. Since the power bonus from TA does nothing to biotic damage, increases survivability a little bit (not enough due to low base health). I don't see how that can win out over Stasis being able to completely shutdown pretty much the most annoying enemies in the game (Phantoms and Hunters)

[Kalas Magnus]

himegoto wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

jrod512ATX wrote...

GI is still hot stuff? I would have bet some of the N7s dethroned him...

The demolisher should be ranked up there with him.

While demolisher is a total beast at raw DPS, CC and support
I find her one of the worst at objectives.

Of course a good player would let their teammates go for the objectives, but like I said, I try to take everything into consideration.

Watch this.
http://social.biowar.../index/13375104

Which one specifically? The disarm the nodes every character, that doesnt have tc, has trouble with?

[NuclearTech76]

I would put the demolisher, destroyer, GI, and QMI in the godly class. QMI isn't putting out the same damage as the GI and destroyer on one target but he is a spawn killer and is close to the same damage output on a single target. The demolisher would be close to the same as the QMI, quick damage on multiple target and ability to debuff and destroy elites quickly. You may be thinking of this as pure damage output on a single target but that would be an error IMO. Drell adept would be higher but just outside of godly tier IMO because of the damage on multiple targets quickly.

[UKStory135]

The AA is S tier and the HA is A tier. I don't like the Slayer either, but I don't know if I'd put him in the D tier cellar of the Drellguard and BatSe.

[himegoto]

Kalas321 wrote...

himegoto wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

jrod512ATX wrote...

GI is still hot stuff? I would have bet some of the N7s dethroned him...

The demolisher should be ranked up there with him.

While demolisher is a total beast at raw DPS, CC and support
I find her one of the worst at objectives.

Of course a good player would let their teammates go for the objectives, but like I said, I try to take everything into consideration.

Watch this.
http://social.biowar.../index/13375104

Which one specifically? The disarm the nodes every character, that doesnt have tc, has trouble with?

Sigh. I hope you understand comments like this means absolutely nothing.
I remember some player here soloed platinum with his drellguard. Does that make the Drellguard a S class to you?

I am not going to start a lame "debate" with you on whether Demolishers are good/bad at objectives. I hope you get my point.

[Boopitty]

There should be one S tier with GI (seriously, the GI isn't that much better), SI, MQI, Kroguard, Demolisher, Destroyer. All the rest should be brought down to A. Phoenix Vanguard should be brought down to B, while the Slayer should be moved up to B.

These are just small differences in opinion on my part, but what really surprises me is how low you rank the Asari and Human Adepts. Asari Adepts trivialize an entire faction by themselves (this alone is amazing), and with good teamwork, easily do well against the other two. Human Adepts with bufffs are actually good people; and the new Acolyte has made them even better! Both belong in A.