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[Broskey Demands]

 We have tiers now? Is this turning into a generic fighter or Pokemon? Drells are UU! 


Lame.

Modifié par Broskey Demands, 21 août 2012 - 03:36 .

[Kalas Magnus]

himegoto wrote...

Sigh. I hope you understand comments like this means absolutely nothing.
I remember some player here soloed platinum with his drellguard. Does that make the Drellguard a S class to you?

I am not going to start a lame "debate" with you on whether Demolishers are good/bad at objectives. I hope you get my point.

The comment meant to convince you she was god tier. The thing that was supposed to stand out was the time not the fact that he could solo with a demolisher. 

Lame debate? What you said makes no sense. She is only "bad" at one objective. 

[ToughReason]

himegoto wrote...

*snip

ToughReason wrote...

EDIT: Also what is base
of your tough opinion : Doing objectives, been team synergy character
or scoremaker. In all three cases your favored Geth Infiltrator sucks
and can be beaten by these three, listed from me characters.

I think no one would disagree a GI should not be at the top of the list. You are just trying too hard to pick bones out of an egg.

Ok , i,ll try to take your point no matter that i don,t know your GI build.
   But: i suggest that you rock with TC dmg spec GI with Piranha shotgun ... am i correct ?

   Let analyse your GI : You have short TC duration in the name of the his majesty DMG output, so your GI suck in node and kill target objectives no less than any other character. . By default GI have low shields and health , so you suck in pizza too - only speed is some asset in this case. All GI powers are selfish and can be used only by GI - takin this point and continue this toughs, every MQI  armed with Falcon is more valuable for my team because he have Tactical Scan - asset to entire team and Arc nades - great crowd control who easily can be turned in massive Tech Bursts.

About his majesty DMG output - every well speced and enough trained HS, AV, HE can outscore your TC Piranha , but also they don,t need to close up to enemy and cross deadline without escape route. Last 3 days i serve as medic for all bad , TC DMG  Piranha  Geth Infiltrators because they try to close to enemy too much.

Modifié par ToughReason, 21 août 2012 - 03:39 .

[UKStory135]

Broskey Demands wrote...

 We have tiers now? Is this turning into a generic fighter or Pokemon? Drells are UU! 


Lame.

There have been people making Tier lists on here since the Demo.  What is amazing is how the AA gets lower each month even though her powers haven't changed.

[JumboWheat01]

Sorry, but I'm an anti-tier person. I hate tier list with a passion. They don't promote creativity, only this "high-end meta-game" crap.

[NuclearTech76]

The geth infiltrator is the highest damage output on a single target. I think the OP is too focused on damage output on a single target instead of decimating an entire spawn.

[RSA586]

The Slayer needs to be moved up at least 2 ranks, it has more of a learning curve than most other characters but that doesn't make it inferior, especially "on par" with a Drellguard.

The phase disruptor/tech burst build someone mentioned earlier and even a pure melee/charge build are extremely effective due to massive damage reduction windows imbetween light melee strikes.

However all vanguards off-host except the Krogan and maybe the Asari or Smashguard (I hate power spamming its boring) are C or D if not a barely passable F+ until a patch fixes the glitch.

[GeneralElectric]

himegoto wrote...

Tier list attempt. Hugely depend on weapons and setups. Consumables taken into consideration.

This list would be more respectable if you gave weapons/setups. But I wholeheartedly agree that Geth Infiltrator is the best class in the game (it's about the most flexible class there is).

Modifié par GeneralElectric, 21 août 2012 - 03:46 .

[Biotic_Warlock]

Drell vanguard and slayer as D

OP you are doing it wrong.

[Yaevinn]

Jelena Jankovic wrote...
I suck with the Geth Infiltrator (not "godly" then?).
Of course to be fair it was also the last character I unlocked.

Heh, I suck badly with Kroguard - here rated above the exceptional. 
 And yet somehow Infiltrators are AreleX way to go  

Slimjim0725 wrote...
[...]

 
geez, get Yourself an anger therapist. You'll get ulcers.

[Bechter]

ToughReason wrote...
Ok , i,ll try to take your point no matter that i don,t know your GI build.
   But: i suggest that you rock with TC dmg spec GI with Piranha shotgun ... am i correct ?

   Let analyse your GI : You have short TC duration in the name of the his majesty DMG output, so your GI suck in node and kill target objectives no less than any other character. . By default GI have low shields and health , so you suck in pizza too - only speed is some asset in this case. All GI powers are selfish and can be used only by GI - takin this point and continue this toughs, every MQI  armed with Falcon is more valuable for my team because he have Tactical Scan - asset to entire team and Arc nades - great crowd control who easily can be turned in massive Tech Bursts.

About his majesty DMG output - every well speced and enough trained HS, AV, HE can outscore your TC Piranha , but also they don,t need to close up to enemy and cross deadline without escape route. Last 3 days i serve as medic for all bad , TC DMG  Piranha  Geth Infiltrators because they try to close to enemy too much.

Rubbish! Proximity Mines debuff can be used by all players, He has tatical cloak (to revive teammates and cap objectives easily), and has Hunter mode to call out enemy positions. You just have a think against the geth. Everything you stated in you post is wrong. Sorry you played with bad players but they will make any class bad don't judge a class on sub par players abilities.

Modifié par cameron_bech, 21 août 2012 - 04:06 .

[Dorje Sylas]

CheetahZ1 wrote...

Why are the Asari Adept and Human Sentinel in seperate tiers? They essentially operate the same except for TA and Stasis. Since the power bonus from TA does nothing to biotic damage, increases survivability a little bit (not enough due to low base health). I don't see how that can win out over Stasis being able to completely shutdown pretty much the most annoying enemies in the game (Phantoms and Hunters)

I gotta agree there and was going to ask the same question. Statis is actually fairly usefully for stalling out the Troopers (Cannibal, Marauders, most kinds of Geth, also it's swarmer harass protection). You don't need protection if you're not getting shot at. The Human Sentinel was always the unlucky mans Asari Adept, anything that applies to the AA applies to the HSe, only worse as he doesn't get statis as a crowd control tool.

I'll agree that the dodge rates and BE nerf have brought the AA down but not into the B range. Before it was S or maybe even SS. Now you need to actually understand what power to throw, when, and at what. Trooper things are going to roll out of the way of most BE setup moves however those Trooper things and get bounced around by spammed Throws, also by 30% chance no cooldown Statis bubble. Your BEs go against bosses, which is where the AA still keeps it's upper tier IMO. Brutes, Banshes (less so with her new invol to power bull crap), Ravagers, Primes, Atals, Phantoms, all the really dangerous "boss" things.

Modifié par Dorje Sylas, 21 août 2012 - 04:01 .

[ToughReason]

cameron_bech wrote...

ToughReason wrote...
Ok , i,ll try to take your point no matter that i don,t know your GI build.
   But: i suggest that you rock with TC dmg spec GI with Piranha shotgun ... am i correct ?

   Let analyse your GI : You have short TC duration in the name of the his majesty DMG output, so your GI suck in node and kill target objectives no less than any other character. . By default GI have low shields and health , so you suck in pizza too - only speed is some asset in this case. All GI powers are selfish and can be used only by GI - takin this point and continue this toughs, every MQI  armed with Falcon is more valuable for my team because he have Tactical Scan - asset to entire team and Arc nades - great crowd control who easily can be turned in massive Tech Bursts.

About his majesty DMG output - every well speced and enough trained HS, AV, HE can outscore your TC Piranha , but also they don,t need to close up to enemy and cross deadline without escape route. Last 3 days i serve as medic for all bad , TC DMG  Piranha  Geth Infiltrators because they try to close to enemy too much.

Rubbish! Proximity Mines debuff can be used by all players, He has tatical cloak (to revive teammates and cap objectives easily), and has Hunter mode to call out enemie positions. You just have a think against the geth. Everything you stated in you post is wrong. Sorry you played with bad players but they will make any class bad don't judge a class on sub par players abilities.

Lol ... is proxy more valuable than Arc nade and Tech Burst ? Is Hunter Mode more valuable than Tactical Scan ? Mate i don,t see any proof in your replay .. only dirrect attack. And no i don,t hate GI .. just my toughs are about entire team and all his assets , not only DMG output and. I think about a team as one single solid body, not as a bunch of 4 players.

[GeneralElectric]

ToughReason wrote...

All GI powers are selfish and can be used only by GI

What? I think you're forgetting about Proximity Mine specced for Damage Taken. Proximity Mine is one of the best powers in the game because of that and its ability to stagger.

Modifié par GeneralElectric, 21 août 2012 - 04:06 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

SSS (Godly)

Elcor Gunslinger -- having any weapon you equip appear as dual-wielded, back mounted models give unequalled firepower.  Movement penalties and lack of cover negated by good team play.



SS

Turian Female "Roc" -- Vanguard with Marksman abilities?  Your enemies had better watch the skies...



S (Exceptional)

Volus Adept -- Biotic Gods unable to carry regular weapons, but their Banshee like ability to float and strength teammates more than makes up for the decrease in squad DPS.

 

A (Great classes)

Krogan Hunter -- Among a people who value noise and fury, a penchent for stillness and quiet can lead to being overlooked.  Which is just fine with some Krogan.  A cover operated tactical cloak allows Hunters to kill while invisible, so long as they don't move.

[mistervirginia]

what difficulty is this list for?
on Silver i almost always own the board with an N7 Shadow
on Gold i've owned with the N7 Slayer. not sure why he's in D class...
sooo i guess this list doesn't hold much credibility for me unfortunately.

[DNC Protoman]

this tier list isn't very good.

[Heldarion]

According to the list I use Great (A, tier 4) classes at most... and I still roll.

Modifié par Heldarion, 21 août 2012 - 04:18 .

[ToughReason]

GeneralElectric wrote...

ToughReason wrote...

All GI powers are selfish and can be used only by GI

What? I think you're forgetting about Proximity Mine specced for Damage Taken. Proximity Mine is one of the best powers in the game because of that and its ability to stagger.

And Arc nades don,t ? Hmm ok. I want to see proxy turned in Tech Burst and then i,ll admit GI as best , ever green and never beaten character in ME3ME ever ... Unitl this moment i,ll continue to rezz bad GI.

[MuKen]

JumboWheat01 wrote...

Sorry, but I'm an anti-tier person. I hate tier list with a passion. They don't promote creativity, only this "high-end meta-game" crap.

Someone who hates tier lists as a whole, sees a thread on tiers, and clicks on it and posts in it.  Do you often join conversations for the express purpose of hating on them?

[Dorje Sylas]

MuKen wrote...

JumboWheat01 wrote...

Sorry, but I'm an anti-tier person. I hate tier list with a passion. They don't promote creativity, only this "high-end meta-game" crap.

Someone who hates tier lists as a whole, sees a thread on tiers, and clicks on it and posts in it.  Do you often join conversations for the express purpose of hating on them?

And do you always see criticism of things you like and assume the person is just there to be a hater? It's actually a decently legit point. Tier lists are often not very well thought out nor respond well to compleixities of player skills, loadout, enemy, and team composition. A botic in a team of tech power spamming engies won't look nearly as good.

Modifié par Dorje Sylas, 21 août 2012 - 04:30 .

[xx DJ ONE xx]

double post

my system must've had a meltdown from my dumb joke

Modifié par xx DJ ONE xx, 21 août 2012 - 04:35 .

[xx DJ ONE xx]

Teratoid wrote...

himegoto wrote...

Flame away.

You look like a chicken.

  ... It's-a RAININ' MEN!  :innocent:Hallelujah, it's rainin' men.  a-A-MEN!!,,,,,,,

[SlimJim0725]

Yaevinn wrote...

Jelena Jankovic wrote...
I suck with the Geth Infiltrator (not "godly" then?).
Of course to be fair it was also the last character I unlocked.

Heh, I suck badly with Kroguard - here rated above the exceptional. 
 And yet somehow Infiltrators are AreleX way to go  

Slimjim0725 wrote...
[...]

 
geez, get Yourself an anger therapist. You'll get ulcers.

I'm good, just tired of worthless post such as your previous one. If you don't know what you are talking about don't speak about it, that simple.