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[stefbomb]

himegoto wrote...

I'd try to reply to the comments but most of the later posts seem to be people validating their own favourite classes or classes they are good at. While you are free to agree/disagree with my list, validating your favourite classes is the behavior I pointed out in the thread specifically to not to want to see.

Human adepts:
A full one second charge on the acolyte to strip the shield of one mook to have singularity working. Too situational dependent.
Shockwave is a CQC attack. Too easy to dodge or problems due to latency issues. The HA isn't well equipped to be a CQC class. My build is a 66606.
And to me I find the rank B, C characters I listed to be better in overall situations. But really close to a C IMO.

Your HA skills are bad and you should feel bad. 

[alyskr3]

Slayer is amazing, that is all. It is the original human vanguard with a ranged nova, and it absolutely wrecks dudes on gold by spamming powers.

Modifié par alyskr3, 21 août 2012 - 06:42 .

[Kalas Magnus]

Well with today's buffs vanguards have moved up. They are a bit more effective. Now only if the bugs were fixed....

Modifié par Kalas321, 22 août 2012 - 06:09 .

[I SomeOneElse I]

drell vangaurd = D? i literally started laughing. Its one of the best classes in the game, and the only vangaurd thats better is the Krogaurd (which is god tier, if not higher)

[DnVill]

I disagree with the list.

Depends on how you play the character. It just looks like the OP mostly plays infiltrator thus placing most of them on top.

[DullahansXMark]

himegoto wrote...

A (Great classes)

Turian Soldier (With full consumables)

B (Average)

Turian Sentinel

D

N7 Slayer

Putting the TSol a whole tier below the Salarian Infiltrator on the condition of using consumables is one thing, but I honestly couldn't take this seriously once you put the N7 Slayer at the bottom of the list. If this is based on learning curves, then I could safely agree. But until then I'm just gonna have to leave on the note that I can easily wipe out entire waves of Gold with either of those two.

And the Turian Sentinel is awesome. Just spec out of Tech Armor and run a lightweight auto-assault rifle. He wrecks things.

P.S. Human Engineer with full consumables is definitely God-Tier if you know what you're doing. Your efficiency is easily on-par with the GI, and... well, you don't die from love taps.

Modifié par DullahansXMark, 22 août 2012 - 06:27 .

[Rodia Driftwood]

Slayer > D?

Batarian Sentinel > C?

OP sucks fo' sho'

[Rokayt]

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

Slayer > D?

Batarian Sentinel > C?

OP sucks fo' sho'

Its miss doesn't feel like finishing her manifest.

(notice the sarcasim.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 22 août 2012 - 06:35 .

[Dream-Maker]

I'm still amazed at the number of people who consider the Slayer to be a bad class and even more when the reason given amounts to "PD uses you shields, makes you vulnerable therefore it's bad".

I must really be awesome to be able score a ****ton of points and score first every single time I take my 6/6/6/5/3 slayer build on U/U/G... Or maybe I actually tried the class more than one match and quickly understood that biotic charge makes all the so-called "survivability problems" totally irrelevant on vanguards.

If the vanguard glitch is the problem behind the Slayer hate, then I just don't get how one can consider the Phoenix vanguard to be way better than the Slayer because in my opinion they're equally beastly.

Modifié par Dream-Maker, 22 août 2012 - 06:50 .

[Captain_Crouton]

I SomeOneElse I wrote...

drell vangaurd = D? i literally started laughing. Its one of the best classes in the game, and the only vangaurd thats better is the Krogaurd (which is god tier, if not higher)

I have thousands of hours played and have YET to see a Kroguard or Drell do better than me in a pub. Not saying it's impossible, but they deserve lower tier for a reason. An exceptional player can be exceptional with anyone but that doesn't make the character a good tier.

[MaxShine]

I am pretty sure that the OP is trolling or attention whori**... That list is so bad, it cannot be tkaen seriously.

[darkpassenger2342]

theres clearly some mistakes here, as you have the slayer listed as the 2nd worst class in the entire game.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 22 août 2012 - 07:24 .

[BellHanger]

I agree with most of what you have but I think the T.Sent should be bumped up to A rank with the T.Soldier. For what he lacks in pure dammage he makes up for in survivablity and utility. He has a debuff for both shields and armor while keeping the weapon bonuses from his passive. That being said I dont know how much that is worth on platinum.

[The Waffle Cat]

lol Demolisher above the destroyer.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Godly:
Destroyer
Infiltrators



Tier C:
Human Sentinel
Assari Adept


Bottom Tier:

Batarian Sentinel
Ex-Cerberus Adept
Original Human Adept



Projectile biotics get dodged way too much for Assari Aepts or Human Sentinels to be considered a B class. And the biotics get overwritten by tech powers, ect.  BatSent can't kill quickly unless he is carrying an overpowered gun, then the gun is being showcased, not the skill-set.  Biotic explosions are just too hard to set up and detonated with projectile powers now and BEs are not that impressive after the radius nerf and compared to the damage output of the shooty classes.

Ex-Cerberus adept has a gimped smash. Smash is only useful on small maps with narrow corridors and when hiding behind a wall. And now it has a loooong cooldown thanks to last weeks nerfing. Human adept has the useless Singularity an shockwave, which is only useful on small maps with narrow corridors.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 22 août 2012 - 10:14 .

[dzero]

Human Sentinels are ranked S? Geez...

[radtz]

LOL I find it funny that if you like biotics more than sniping, then you end up playing "lower tier" characters.

[ProjectGemini07]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...
Human adept has the useless Singularity an shockwave, which is only useful on small maps with narrow corridors.

[RedJohn]

himegoto wrote...

Tier list attempt. Hugely depend on weapons and setups. Consumables taken into consideration.
Feel free to agree/disagree
--------------


SSS (Godly)

Geth Infiltrator

 

SS

Salarian Infiltrator

Male Quarian Infiltrator

N7 Demolisher

 

S (Exceptional)

N7 Destroyer

N7 Paladin

N7 Shadow

N7 Fury

Human Sentinel

Kroguard

Human Soldier (BF3 Soldier)

Male Quarian Engineer

 

 

A (Great classes)

Batarian Soldier

Vorcha Soldier

Vorcha Sentinel

Drell Adept

Human Engineer

Geth Engineer

Salarian Engineer

Asari Justicar

Phoenix Vanguard (Pre nerf, S)

Female Quarian Infiltrator

Human Infiltrator

Turian Soldier (With full consumables)

 

B (Average)

Asari Adept

Phoenix Adept

Krogan Sentinel

Asari Vanguard

Human Vanguard

Turian Sentinel

Krogan Soldier

 

C

Female Quarian Engineer

Batarian Sentinel

Human Adept
 

D

Drell Vanguard

N7 Slayer

 
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Turians and Krogans (and Batarians)??
- Sorry, no roll

Asari Adept at B??
- Only ever good against phantoms. Which is easy to deal with
in current days with better classes and weapons. And BE nerf.

QME > DA?
- Yeah, arc grenades is just that much better.


 

If I put one of your favs in lower ranks, doesn't mean I'm
belittle-ing you. Just throwing it out there. We all know people only take
things too seriously in BSN. I love playing as Female Quarian Engineer, Batarian
Sentinel, Krogan Sentinel, Asari Vanguard.

 

Flame away.

Hi, I am RedJohn and I completely disagree with this list.

First of all, this:

SSS (Godly)

Geth Infiltrator

No, just no.

GI, is not the most powerful characters in the game, but is the easiest to use, which means is the class for noobs and people who don't know how to use other classes, i'm not telling you noob or something, of course not, but there are other characters that have much better crowd control than Geth Infiltrator, like for example Batarian Soldier, or Drell Adept.


Second:

SS

Salarian Infiltrator

Male Quarian Infiltrator

N7 Demolisher

Seriously?, Salarian Infiltrator above Destroyer, Vanguards, Batarian Soldier, etc etc etc?

I can't be agree with this, Salarian Infiltrator can not do what a Fury could. I have tested all the characters in the game by lot of ways, soloing and with teams, I use to play with all of them until I master them, I have mastered almost all characters ( except Human Adept and N7 Paladin ) and believe me, SI can't do what Fury does in battlefield. Of course, everything depends on the player, but in my hands I can do great things with the fury and Salarian Infiltrator with a Shotgun ( i use both of them with a shotgun, normaly ).

No words about the other 2.

D

Drell Vanguard

N7 Slayer 

It seems that you know how to play only if you have an infiltrator, because put the Drell Vanguard and N7 Slayer at the lowest rank is just not clever.

I have to ask you, Are you sure that Female Quarian Engineer deserves a higher rank than Drell Vanguard?

I have more dissagreements, but I don't want to write too much.

[Amano Kazumi]

Dream-Maker wrote...

I'm still amazed at the number of people who consider the Slayer to be a bad class and even more when the reason given amounts to "PD uses you shields, makes you vulnerable therefore it's bad".

I must really be awesome to be able score a ****ton of points and score first every single time I take my 6/6/6/5/3 slayer build on U/U/G... Or maybe I actually tried the class more than one match and quickly understood that biotic charge makes all the so-called "survivability problems" totally irrelevant on vanguards.

If the vanguard glitch is the problem behind the Slayer hate, then I just don't get how one can consider the Phoenix vanguard to be way better than the Slayer because in my opinion they're equally beastly.

There's a different glitch that happens quite regularly with the Slayer, Charging and not recovering your shields or dying instantly upon arrival - ON host as well as off host.

While I don't believe the Slayer is D tier, worst character in the game, terrible etc, I do think his damage is too low on his PD and melee to be worth the risk in comparison to using almost any other Vanguard.

[SovereignWillReturn]

I say this for SSB:B, snd I'll say it here.

TR4Q.

[RedJohn]

SovereignWillReturn wrote...

I say this for SSB:B, snd I'll say it here.

TR4Q.

I didn't understand a word of this post.

[Iggister]

Salarian infiltrator down a tier, imo. Otherwise, agreed.

[Kalas Magnus]

RedJohn wrote...

SovereignWillReturn wrote...

I say this for SSB:B, snd I'll say it here.

TR4Q.

I didn't understand a word of this post.

Tiers are for queers.
It implies that even if the character is good, your skill is still more important. 

Modifié par Kalas321, 22 août 2012 - 07:55 .