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(Not sure why I can't post in the Mass Effect 3 forums)

What exactly is the reason for being "grounded" on Earth at the start of Mass Effect 3 if you did not play the "Arrival" DLC in ME2?

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RebelTitan428

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i emailed a moderator 3 times about that same question and i have not heard back...

the bigger question i have is why am i being held on Earth after the Arrival if im a Spectre....i don't answer to the alliance anymore..

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The events of Arrival happen whether you played the DLC or not; the DLC simply lets you experience the events first-hand.

As for being a Spectre: first, depending on your choices in ME1 and ME2, Shepard may not be a Spectre anymore; second, if the Council revoked Saren's Spectre status just for attacking one human colony, then it's a safe bet that they won't protect Shepard after he/she blows up an entire planetary system.

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BurningBlood wrote...

The events of Arrival happen whether you played the DLC or not; the DLC simply lets you experience the events first-hand.

As for being a Spectre: first, depending on your choices in ME1 and ME2, Shepard may not be a Spectre anymore; second, if the Council revoked Saren's Spectre status just for attacking one human colony, then it's a safe bet that they won't protect Shepard after he/she blows up an entire planetary system.


I just read that the events of Arrival take place no matter what...but Shepards involvement depends on whether you play the DLC or not. Meaning that if you didn't play the DLC...your Shepard did not have a part of those events.

If you played the DLC...your reason for being "grounded" is because of the events of Arrival.

If you didn't play the DLC...your reason for being "grounded" is because of joining Ceberus in ME2...which is considered a terrorist organization.

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If you play Arrival you're under house arrest because of what happens in Arrival. If you don't play Arrival then AIUI some other unnamed NPC dealt with it and you're under house arrest because of, and I more or less quote, "some of the **** you've pulled". Not even anything as specific as joining Cerberus, which is pretty arguable anyway given some of the possibilities in ME2 (being reinstated as a Spectre, giving TIM earache as much as possible, blowing up the Collector Base and telling him where to go, etc). In other words there's no real reason except that the plot needs you to be on Earth.

PS You can't post in the ME3 forums because you haven't registered your copy of ME3 yet. Once you do that you should be able to post.

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Politics. Also, Shepard did work for cerberus even if it was just and the outcome made sense. I guess they're also pushing arrival into the fray despite whether or not you played it, but I think it was kind of political in that they had to hide Shepard from the council and/or make it look like there was punishment to keep the peace and stay on good terms with them. It didn't seem like it was a punishment though from my perspective. It seemed more like they knew they would need shepard for reaper knowledge at some point and wanted to keep her/him as their asset given they were the ONLY ones that believed it. I think Anderson's speech was more designed for arrival DLC and the fact shep teamed with Cerberus. But otherwise, I think it was really to keep shep there because Alliance believed her as stated in the opening.

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I started ME3 without buying Arrival, Anderson still says I'm responsible for those Batarian death.

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In mine, Anderson says it was for the **** I pulled that would be considered treason (meaning working with cerberus I guess) which makes zero sense since if you meet with the council and get spectre status back they know it - so it falls into punishment I guess. I think it was just a very lazily written opening scene so that they could fit in the batarian arrival line rather than force a total change in dialogue. Anderson's response should have been either about the batarians if you played arrival or that they had to keep her there and safe because they believed her that the reapers were coming and would need her since she was the only one that ever faced and fought and even won against them. The whole opening was horribly written.

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Also, why is Anderson there at that exact moment. It's earth, not the citadel. Wasn't he still a councilor? Shouldn't he have been on the citadel?

And while were on topics of openings that don't make sense, I could swear Miranda said she never met with Illusive man at some point in the game and that shepard was lucky. Am I imagining that? Because I remember it but it hasn't come up in other conversations and yet in the opening she's at his headquarters. Does anyone remember her saying she never met him or something along those lines, but then later she is in the room with Jacob and Shepard discussing Jacob's loyalty mission.

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starlitegirlx wrote...

Also, why is Anderson there at that exact moment. It's earth, not the citadel. Wasn't he still a councilor? Shouldn't he have been on the citadel?  

Ah, that's another one of those choices that really matter that turned out not to matter. If you make him councillor he quits as councillor. *rolls eyes*

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And while were on topics of openings that don't make sense, I could swear Miranda said she never met with Illusive man at some point in the game and that shepard was lucky. Am I imagining that? Because I remember it but it hasn't come up in other conversations and yet in the opening she's at his headquarters. Does anyone remember her saying she never met him or something along those lines, but then later she is in the room with Jacob and Shepard discussing Jacob's loyalty mission.


Don't remember it this way. Recall her syaing that very few people meet him in person and that she doesn't know all that much about him, but don't think she ever says that she herself hasn't met him. Shepard may come across evidence that The Idiotic Man meets plenty of people, namely all those asari he's been rooting according to the Shadow Broker files. Doubt he can do that over quantum entanglement communicators.
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Psi Five, thanks for clearing that up for me. It always drove me nuts about the opening of ME3 because I didn't hear or understand her comment correctly. And now it makes perfect sense about Anderson being on earth though I didn't really give it thought until recently.

Thanks for clarification!!!

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Yep, if you play Arrival then you're under arrest for killing 300,000 batarians. If you didn't play it, then someone else blew up the relay and you're under arrest for associating with the terrorist organisation Cerberus. Just because the Council approved it doesn't mean the Alliance military did, and Shepherd is still technically part of that military, even as a spectre.

As for Anderson - he quit as councilor in one of the ME books so yeah, it doesn't make a difference if you picked him or not in ME1. Once again, your choices are meaningless.