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[justafan]

I guess I am the only one who doesn't think that Ms. Merizan's quote was all that controversial.

As much as I hate the idea of Synthesis as presented by the "synthesis can't be forced, but go ahead and force synthesis on everyone anyways" catalyst, the idea itself is fairly consistent with ME themes. My problem with crucible synthesis is that it is both implemented by space magic, and is genetic violation on a galactic scale.

The idea of integrating organic and synthetic parts however is not what I have a problem with. The Lazarus project, overlord, Geth integration server, etc. already prove that the ME galaxy is on that path. and if ME4 takes place 10,000 years in the future, and the citizens of the galaxy have voluntarily chosen synthesis on their own terms, I'd be fine with that.

However, after ME3, I'd probably wait for the reviews before buying it.

Modifié par justafan, 21 août 2012 - 06:40 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Shadowvalker wrote...

Oh yes let synthesis be canon! Then I can save some money by NOT buying the game!

lol

[sheppard7]

Not interested in ME4 no matter what they say is the canon ending. Because they were all crap.

[Wayning_Star]

gorezeelar wrote...

Well if you start to think about it, it's inevitable that both organics and synthetics will start to get sick of wars, or organics start to make themselves synthetics and vice versa to improve themselves. It's inevitable...so sure, I'll probably accept it.

I'm uncertain if synthetics would choose synthesis tho, they may have to be forced into becoming more in tune with their creator race. Eventhough, organics didn't(in the MEU) actually engineer their apparent evolution to sentience/sapience. That was an act of nature and occured spontaniously. Otherwise, there might be strife.

[Haargel]

Sure, don't like synthesis but just give me moar Mass Effect !

[Wayning_Star]

justafan wrote...

I guess I am the only one who doesn't think that Ms. Merizan's quote was all that controversial.

As much as I hate the idea of Synthesis as presented by the "synthesis can't be forced, but go ahead and force synthesis on everyone anyways" catalyst, the idea itself is fairly consistent with ME themes. My problem with crucible synthesis is that it is both implemented by space magic, and is genetic violation on a galactic scale.

The idea of integrating organic and synthetic parts however is not what I have a problem with. The Lazarus project, overlord, Geth integration server, etc. already prove that the ME galaxy is on that path. and if ME4 takes place 10,000 years in the future, and the citizens of the galaxy have voluntarily chosen synthesis on their own terms, I'd be fine with that.

However, after ME3, I'd probably wait for the reviews before buying it.

Thats like calling the universe 'space magic'. Stuff happens..all the time in the scheme of things.

If beings understood that sythesis is 'just a part of life', then what would they think?

But then, as the catalyst stated, Shep was part synthetic, so the process was already in motion. The green beam just speeds it up for those of us in real time to...semi experience it?

[Wulfram]

Playing the brave resistance fighting for freedom in dystopian future of Synthesis might be fun. Though not really very Mass Effect.

The ludicrously utopian version of Synthesis presented in the game doesn't appear to allow enough conflict for there to be a game set in it.

edit:  How inevitable "Synthesis" is depends on how you parse the various bits of gibberish, and how broadly you define it.  People are likely to enhance themselves through the use of technology, sure.  But no reason why that should be through some giant device splattering some person's "Organic Essence" all over everything?

Modifié par Wulfram, 21 août 2012 - 06:53 .

[Wayning_Star]

Wulfram wrote...

Playing the brave resistance fighting for freedom in dystopian future of Synthesis might be fun. Though not really very Mass Effect.

The ludicrously utopian version of Synthesis presented in the game doesn't appear to allow enough conflict for there to be a game set in it.

Yeah, no fighting, that'd be a drag investigating other more primitive forms of our future...

Your point is too clear to me tho, and clear as a bell's ring on sunday.

[Lyssar]

Synthesis goes against one of the principles of natural evolution: diversity. So saying it is inevitable... mmh, I don't think so.
Well, I guess one could create an interesting plot by focusing on all its drawbacks. However, if they want to canonize one ending, I would prefer destroy. They could easily do it with IT.

[JesseLee202]

To answer OP...




NO!

[Wayning_Star]

Lyssar wrote...

Synthesis goes against one of the principles of natural evolution: diversity. So saying it is inevitable... mmh, I don't think so.
Well, I guess one could create an interesting plot by focusing on all its drawbacks. However, if they want to canonize one ending, I would prefer destroy. They could easily do it with IT.

isn't IT just like the controls of synthesis, but with Destroyer Shep stuck in a catalystic rut forever?

[RebelTitan428]

no interest what-so-ever....synthesis is/was and will always be a laughable idea for any Shepard to choose as you essentially have done what the Reapers set out to do in the first place....congrats?

[eddieoctane]

Making the poisoned ecto cooler the canon state of affairs for ME4 will only serve to ensure that I never play another BioWare game, and begin to actively avoid things worked on by any of the key staff members form ME3. If that means the only game I play for the next 5 years is Halo, so freaking be it. Synthesis is eugenics. It's a terrible idea, the way it is done in game breaks the suspension of disbelief, and whoever came up with it needs a thorough psychological examination.

[Govalon]

After Synthesis and after control I have problems seeing how they would create an interesting storyline. Because in control shepard could just destroy any enemy with his reaper army. And with synthesis the knowledge gained would make fighting an enemy and having big problems with it (also because the reapers are still around) seem rather unrealistic.

With Control ending, new hero would arise and unite the galaxy to fight against Reapers. Cycle continues.

With synthesis ending, new life would evolve in some distant place and they would fight against green cyborgs.

With Destroy ending, Shepard would continue to be a spectre for a for a few years untill galaxy is stabilised again.

Lots of options with canon endings

[Memnon]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Don't listen to Jessica Merizan, half of the stuff that comes out of her mouth is bullcrap.

This is actually pretty good advice ...

[Wayning_Star]

eddieoctane wrote...

Making the poisoned ecto cooler the canon state of affairs for ME4 will only serve to ensure that I never play another BioWare game, and begin to actively avoid things worked on by any of the key staff members form ME3. If that means the only game I play for the next 5 years is Halo, so freaking be it. Synthesis is eugenics. It's a terrible idea, the way it is done in game breaks the suspension of disbelief, and whoever came up with it needs a thorough psychological examination.

no, it isn't, but who's reading posts on BSN anyway..

[Mythanblood]

No.

[Wayning_Star]

Stornskar wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Don't listen to Jessica Merizan, half of the stuff that comes out of her mouth is bullcrap.

This is actually pretty good advice ...

yeah, they're more taunt than viable information.. The devs want users to be in the dark, figure it out for themselves and post their own canon ending(s). Pretty obvious really.

[MissMaster_2]

Hell no.

[Snypy]

I've got no interest in synthesis. I think it would be much better if the story in ME4 began shortly before the end of ME3. Perhaps a research ship somehow found a way to get into another galaxy (with little chance of returning home). That way, BioWare wouldn't have to worry about ME3 endings.

[Saul Iscariot]

Lyssar wrote...

Synthesis goes against one of the principles of natural evolution: diversity. So saying it is inevitable... mmh, I don't think so.
Well, I guess one could create an interesting plot by focusing on all its drawbacks. However, if they want to canonize one ending, I would prefer destroy. They could easily do it with IT.

If diversity is the natural result of evolution how come there are numerous species of primates but only one species of us? Cro Magnon died or was assimilated, hardly diverse.

[Saul Iscariot]

I know, certain species can't digest certain foods, synthesis removes that problem, but a decent writer could envisage numerous problems that may result of synthesis. Turians draining Earth's chefs for the newly discovered joy of Ramen. Mass Effect 4: Cooking Shepard exclusive to WiiU.