Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
snk575 wrote...
all these changes are great, but what about the Destroyers missile launcher???
There is no Destroyer missile launcher, you hear me. There. Is. NONE
oh. ok
August 21 Multiplayer Balance Changes
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Eric Fagnan
, août 21 2012 05:07
#26
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:19
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oh. ok
Retour en haut
#27
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:21
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Has the Phantom stagger range on platinum been nerfed as well? I hope they did and forgot to put it in the notes. Testing it now.
Modifié par YIRAWK, 21 août 2012 - 05:23 .
#28
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:22
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Well, now that slashes are basically useless it's time to respec. Not that I'm complaining seeing as I prefer Shadow Strike / Charge + Disruptor.
#29
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:22
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August 21, 2012
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Locust SMG
- Damage increased from [34.3-42.8] to [37.7-47.1]
Crusader Shotgun
- Damage increased from [486.6-608.3] to [530.9-663.6]
Kishock Sniper Rifle
- Damage multiplier for full charge increased from 150% to 175%
Biotic Charge Power (all kits excluding the Krogan)
- Base damage increased from 250 to 400
- Base force increased from 500 to 600
Biotic Charge Power (Krogan only)
- Base damage increased from 400 to 500
- Evolve 4 melee damage bonus increased from 25% to 40% and duration increased from 4 to 5 seconds
Biotic Charge Power (all kits including the Krogan)
- Rank 3 damage and force bonus increased from 20% to 30%
- Evolve 1 damage and force bonus increased from 30% to 40%
- Evolve 3 weapon damage bonus increased from 15% to 25% and duration increased from 3 to 5 seconds
- Evolve 4 power damage bonus increased from 25% to 40% but duration decreased from 15 to 10 seconds
- Evolve 5 chance to cause no cooldown increased from 25% to 33%
Electric Slash Power
- Base cooldown increased from 5 to 8 seconds
Biotic Slash Power
- Base cooldown increased from 5 to 8 seconds
Sticky Grenade Power
- Base damage increased from 750 to 900
Locust gets a buff even though its so OP on gold (JK but check my sig)
The Spam powers got a bigger cooldown like smash did, fair enough
Sticky grenades (aka worst grenades in the game) get some love
Crusader and harpoon get some nice buffs
Biotic CHarge gets huge buff.
Overall nice day of balance changes
August 21, 2012
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Locust SMG
- Damage increased from [34.3-42.8] to [37.7-47.1]
Crusader Shotgun
- Damage increased from [486.6-608.3] to [530.9-663.6]
Kishock Sniper Rifle
- Damage multiplier for full charge increased from 150% to 175%
Biotic Charge Power (all kits excluding the Krogan)
- Base damage increased from 250 to 400
- Base force increased from 500 to 600
Biotic Charge Power (Krogan only)
- Base damage increased from 400 to 500
- Evolve 4 melee damage bonus increased from 25% to 40% and duration increased from 4 to 5 seconds
Biotic Charge Power (all kits including the Krogan)
- Rank 3 damage and force bonus increased from 20% to 30%
- Evolve 1 damage and force bonus increased from 30% to 40%
- Evolve 3 weapon damage bonus increased from 15% to 25% and duration increased from 3 to 5 seconds
- Evolve 4 power damage bonus increased from 25% to 40% but duration decreased from 15 to 10 seconds
- Evolve 5 chance to cause no cooldown increased from 25% to 33%
Electric Slash Power
- Base cooldown increased from 5 to 8 seconds
Biotic Slash Power
- Base cooldown increased from 5 to 8 seconds
Sticky Grenade Power
- Base damage increased from 750 to 900
Locust gets a buff even though its so OP on gold (JK but check my sig)
The Spam powers got a bigger cooldown like smash did, fair enough
Sticky grenades (aka worst grenades in the game) get some love
Crusader and harpoon get some nice buffs
Biotic CHarge gets huge buff.
Overall nice day of balance changes
#30
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:23
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If you were really using Slash as often as the cooldown allowed, a lot people are going to be glad you no longer shaking their screen all the time.nick91_99 wrote...
typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles. this is officially the end for me.
Also there was a buff to a sniper rifle.
Besides the single shot snipers are the only snipers that are in serious need of a buff and a simple damage boost isn't going to provide what they need.
EDIT @ YIRAWK: They were supposed to have fixed that last week.
Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 21 août 2012 - 05:25 .
#31
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:25
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Eric, thank you, thank you! Now if only the vanguard glitch could be fixed as well, I'd be in nerdvana! :>
#32
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:25
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Is the changeto electric slash cooldown even going to make a difference if you use it in conjuction with tactical cloak?
#33
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:26
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nick91_99 wrote...
typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles. this is officially the end for me.
outstanding.
#34
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:28
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Fine so far, now please remove this highly annoying screen shaking from the slash and smash abilities, so people don't get punished anymore because they play with one of them in their group.
#35
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:29
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Did not see that one last week.Poison_Berrie wrote...
EDIT @ YIRAWK: They were supposed to have fixed that last week.
#36
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:29
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Love most of the changes, though the Locust still deserves something more.
As far as I remember, people have proven with math that the Locust damage could have been increased by as much as 60% without making it better than the Tempest (which isn't exactly god tier itself). A 10% damage buff isn't really going to make such an utterly useless weapon viable...
Great buffs to Vanguards and Crusader though^^
Also happy with the slash nerfs, haven't got my own slayer yet, but Shadow-ES-spam was kind of lame...
As far as I remember, people have proven with math that the Locust damage could have been increased by as much as 60% without making it better than the Tempest (which isn't exactly god tier itself). A 10% damage buff isn't really going to make such an utterly useless weapon viable...
Great buffs to Vanguards and Crusader though^^
Also happy with the slash nerfs, haven't got my own slayer yet, but Shadow-ES-spam was kind of lame...
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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:29
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Krogan Vanguard buff? Really?
Other Vanguard buffs are welcome.
Oh, and Crusader buff is good. That'll stop my trash talking about this gun
Other Vanguard buffs are welcome.
Oh, and Crusader buff is good. That'll stop my trash talking about this gun
Modifié par Air Quotes, 21 août 2012 - 05:30 .
#38
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:29
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Great balance changes this week, too. Vanguards got a lot of loving, but I am not sure how valid these buffs are with the off-host glitch still around. Might be worth the risk
#39
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:29
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Buffs to Biotic Charge are a surprise and cool and all, but with the Vanguard glitch still unresolved, isn't it kind'a moot? *shrug* Regardless, hopefully, this is the first step in seeing more BC Vanguards in lobbies.
And of course, the MASSIVE nerfs to Biotic Slash and Electric Slash have arrived.
Thanks once again to the overly-vocal minority of resident self-proclaimed game balance experts. So, here are the nerfs you asked for. Time to beat-off to it, right?
And of course, the MASSIVE nerfs to Biotic Slash and Electric Slash have arrived.
Thanks once again to the overly-vocal minority of resident self-proclaimed game balance experts. So, here are the nerfs you asked for. Time to beat-off to it, right?
Modifié par tetsutsuru, 21 août 2012 - 05:33 .
#40
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:31
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My biotic slash........
Modifié par Kalas321, 21 août 2012 - 05:32 .
#41
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:32
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Looks like there's going to be a massive increase in people playing Vanguards followed by a massive explosion of rage as they all discover the Vanguard bugs are still unfixed after all this time.
#42
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:32
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Bon3zz1001 wrote...
Well, now that slashes are basically useless it's time to respec. Not that I'm complaining seeing as I prefer Shadow Strike / Charge + Disruptor.
Er..no.
You just cant spam them as before...although you could probably use gear to get it back up to speed...
It makes the evolution 5 choice harder since before, at 200% cooldown, the difference was 1.54s versus 1.37
Now, its a choice between 2.46s and 2.19s
#43
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:32
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Amazing buffs. I don't play shadow or fury so meh. And sticky grenade ! Awesome. Love for my female quarian infiltrator.
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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:33
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tetsutsuru wrote...
Buffs to Biotic Charge are a surprise and cool and all, but with the Vanguard glitch still unresolved, isn't it kind'a moot? *shrug*
And of course, the MASSIVE nerf to Biotic Slash and Electric Slash has arrived.
Meh, the BS/ES nerf is hardly massive at all. All you get is what, .8 seconds more cooldown if you're using a low cooldown build!? Yeah, sorry, you are right, that is TOTALLY massive. The power will never be the same again, they killed it for forever and three days and all that yaddayadda.
I don't mind, the difference is marginal at best and hardly noticable at worst.
#45
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:34
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Thank you for the Vanguard buffs. However it does not address survivability issues on Platinum other than the Force buff. The hidden Damage Reduction needs to be upped from 50%.
#46
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:34
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Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...nick91_99 wrote...
typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.
Great changes this week overall!
#47
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:35
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Huh Crusader buff... well ain't that a kick in the head. Didn't expect that.
Well the biotic slash cd ain't hurting me one bit. I found phase disruptor a better choice anyway it being so darn fast to cast and biotic slash I use when am outta shields. No biggie.
Kishock buff... well it didn't need it but why not! I still prefer rapid fire with it though.
5 points for the Locust... well I dunno Rokayts got the ball on that one.
Charge. Still not using it untill Air Vanguard is put outta business.
Sticky grenade buff? YES YES YES!! BUAHAHAHAA!! FEAR MY QUARIAN INFILTRATOR ARMORED BASTARDS!
Well the biotic slash cd ain't hurting me one bit. I found phase disruptor a better choice anyway it being so darn fast to cast and biotic slash I use when am outta shields. No biggie.
Kishock buff... well it didn't need it but why not! I still prefer rapid fire with it though.
5 points for the Locust... well I dunno Rokayts got the ball on that one.
Charge. Still not using it untill Air Vanguard is put outta business.
Sticky grenade buff? YES YES YES!! BUAHAHAHAA!! FEAR MY QUARIAN INFILTRATOR ARMORED BASTARDS!
#48
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:36
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cuzIMgood wrote...
Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...nick91_99 wrote...
typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.
Great changes this week overall!
Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?
#49
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:36
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I wish they buffed incinerate and some sort of buff to any of the adepts.
#50
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:38
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Very glad with these changes. Slash needed to be nerfed to share the same cooldown as smash. Both slash & smash do 1k+ damage, no reason one of them should have a faster cooldown and longer range. Happy to see my precious Kishock get buffed up a bit, along biotic charge getting a buff.
