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August 21 Multiplayer Balance Changes

Débuté par Eric Fagnan , août 21 2012 05:07

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#51
RamsenC
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:39

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Vanguard buffs :D

Someone figure out all the phantom stagger thresholds please.

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mistervirginia
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:40

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electric slash :(

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:40

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tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!


Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?


Every single one i play with does it, even when i tell them to do it away from me to stop messing with my aim they continue to spam it right by me. It needed the nerf regardless of what you think. 1k+ damage (similar to smash) and a much longer reach compared to smash, it needs to share the same cooldown as smash.

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LazyDakota
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:43

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Crusader's recoil needs to be reduced, not damage increased. It's just terrible weight + handling that kills it. Locust's buff doesn't look like it's gonna change the situation. SMGs are garbage. And Biotic Charge... Nice job buffing the broken power!

#55
IronRush
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:44

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Very good changes at all.

But still no buffs to one shot snipers. Priority business here.
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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:46

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Poison_Berrie wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles. this is officially the end for me.

If you were really using Slash as often as the cooldown allowed, a lot people are going to be glad you no longer shaking their screen all the time. 


Yes, this is true. I've played with 2 Slayers who kept using ES over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

11 waves of non-stop ES. It was easily the most annoying match I've ever played. I for one and happy that it got a cooldown nerf.

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:47

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Locust - do I have a Locust? Where did I put that weapon?
Crusader - let's try it again.

Kronguard -- even more powerful now - For Tuchacka ....!!!!

and some other details ....

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:48

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tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!


Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?


To be fair, almost all Shadows and Slayers I've played with spam ES/BS ALL the game. Nothing else. No shadow strike, no charge or phase disruptor. NOTHING. Only slashes. Especially on smaller maps like Glacier or White. 

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tetsutsuru
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:49

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known_hero wrote...

Poison_Berrie wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles. this is officially the end for me.

If you were really using Slash as often as the cooldown allowed, a lot people are going to be glad you no longer shaking their screen all the time. 


Yes, this is true. I've played with 2 Slayers who kept using ES over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

11 waves of non-stop ES. It was easily the most annoying match I've ever played. I for one and happy that it got a cooldown nerf.


I'm inclined to think you connect to folks who are cheating or something.  Slayers can't  perform Electric Slashes.  let alone 11 waves of nothing but that.

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:50

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My Kroguard says thanks.

No wait, he says, WHOOOOOAOAOAOOAOAOAAAAAAAAAGH!

Now pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease gief patch.

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:50

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Air Quotes wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!


Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?


To be fair, almost all Shadows and Slayers I've played with spam ES/BS ALL the game. Nothing else. No shadow strike, no charge or phase disruptor. NOTHING. Only slashes. Especially on smaller maps like Glacier or White. 


That's because you don't invite me to your games. *sniff* Image IPB I'll show you an assassin N7 Shadow. Image IPB

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 21 août 2012 - 05:52 .

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GroverA125
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:51

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Zanzibaarus wrote...

Locust got a buff.

Is it enough? Might need to hear from Rokayt.


It's still not enough for it to be a good option for general use, it's DPS is still too low to do much damage, and on a very serious note, at level 10 it is still outmatched by a low level eagle in terms of DPS, and they both have similar weights.

So it's not made it any better really, but it's the thought that counts.

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:52

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tetsutsuru wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!


Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?


To be fair, almost all Shadows and Slayers I've played with spam ES/BS ALL the game. Nothing else. No shadow strike, no charge or phase disruptor. NOTHING. Only slashes. Especially on smaller maps like Glacier or White. 


That's because you don't invite me to your games.  I'll show you an assassin N7 Shadow. Image IPB


Oh, you need an invitation girlfriend? :lol: You can join anytime ;)

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Koenig888
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:54

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I'm glad slash got nerfed. All the screen shaking is really annoying.

The Kroguard buffs are most welcome!

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tetsutsuru
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:54

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Air Quotes wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!


Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?


To be fair, almost all Shadows and Slayers I've played with spam ES/BS ALL the game. Nothing else. No shadow strike, no charge or phase disruptor. NOTHING. Only slashes. Especially on smaller maps like Glacier or White. 


That's because you don't invite me to your games.  I'll show you an assassin N7 Shadow. Image IPB


Oh, you need an invitation girlfriend? :lol: You can join anytime ;)


Of course I need an invite.  I'm not that big of a sl*t.  Well, I don't want to come across as that big of a sl*t, anyway. Image IPB

BTW, you still rocking that Geth Infiltrator?

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 21 août 2012 - 05:55 .

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:55

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tetsutsuru wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!


Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?


To be fair, almost all Shadows and Slayers I've played with spam ES/BS ALL the game. Nothing else. No shadow strike, no charge or phase disruptor. NOTHING. Only slashes. Especially on smaller maps like Glacier or White. 


That's because you don't invite me to your games. *sniff* Image IPB I'll show you an assassin N7 Shadow. Image IPB


Yea baby, slice em and dice em :ph34r:

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:55

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For once, I am not disappointed.

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HLake
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:55

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Love these changes. Thanks BW.

Modifié par HLake, 21 août 2012 - 05:56 .

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:56

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Human and Drell Vanguard only have 990 N Force with Area Charge (without Power Synergy). The Asari, Smashguard and Slayer have 1050 which is enough to stagger Phantoms. I believe this is a big deficiency especially on the Drellguard's part, as they rely on their weapons (Claymore) to do all the damage. However they cannot stagger Phantoms with Area Charge and Weapon Synergy, unlike Asari and Slayer. The Phantoms stagger threshold on Gold/Platinum is 1000 N.

Modifié par Achire, 21 août 2012 - 05:58 .

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:59

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I just tried the Locust in Silver. It's still trash. In Silver.

:(

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kr3g
Posté 21 août 2012 - 05:59

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Still nothing for missile launcher? And even for Nova?

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 06:00

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Achire wrote...

Human and Drell Vanguard only have 990 N Force with Area Charge (without Power Synergy). The Asari, Smashguard and Slayer have 1050 which is enough to stagger Phantoms. I believe this is a big deficiency especially on the Drellguard's part, as they rely on their weapons (Claymore) to do all the damage. However they cannot stagger Phantoms with Area Charge and Weapon Synergy, unlike Asari and Slayer. The Phantoms stagger threshold on Gold/Platinum is 1000 N.


I believe they lowered it for Gold. Or am i wrong :unsure:

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Poison_Berrie
Posté 21 août 2012 - 06:01

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tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!


Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?

Those that are really hurt by this change would be.

#74
Teukki
Posté 21 août 2012 - 06:07

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Like these changes. I don't even have to complain, that's a change too. Seems like Crusader and Kishock deserve another shot, I sucked with both, probably still do, but one can always hope.

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Posté 21 août 2012 - 06:10

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Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Well, now that slashes are basically useless it's time to respec. Not that I'm complaining seeing as I prefer Shadow Strike / Charge + Disruptor.

Are you serious? Slash is in now way crippled. With a good cooldown bonus and a power efficiency consumable, you'll still be able to spam it. It's just like the "smash nerf" from last week. It's not even a nerf, it's just good as it is.

Other than that, I'm really happy with the changes as well. Let's hope the locust buff is actually worth it. 4.4 points seems meagre.

Hopefully will have a destroyer missile launcher buff next week, be it in damage or in shield penality reduction.
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